
wheniaminspice
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Posted - 2014.10.16 14:58:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:These changes are intended to make it easier for fleets to counter bombers (whether the bombers are isboxed or not) and to make organization of characters valuable again for bombing. Organization of pilots is made easier in a lot of ways with isboxer, but that has always been true and isn't some new phenomenon coming from these changes.
We'll be watching these changes very carefully on SISI, and if this hits bombers too hard we can easily make adjustments. We do not want to "headshot" bombers, and we don't currently believe that these changes make them unviable.
I think some people came into this thread expecting it to be something completely different, and are therefore disappointed.
If you want to discuss our policies surrounding isboxer that is fine, but there are other threads for that.
ISBoxer is not a separate discussion here. Bombing is the strongest application of ISBoxer in PvP, so these two issues are undeniably linked. I could go over the many ways in which ISBoxer is superior to leading a fleet of real people, but it should be very obvious that there are a lot of things that are simply not possible without it.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24414904 - around this time, our coalition had 4 active ISBoxers. We forced the CFC to retire it's rupture doctrine because they kept getting owned by bombs; we bombed multiple harpy fleets, it was disgustingly strong.
Realistically, not much of this would have been possible when using our own pilots. I could get into specifics regarding the difficulties of organising a large bomber fleet, the friction involved, the ease of ruining a bomber fleet but again i suspect it's all pretty obvious to anyone who understands the mechanics.
Anyway here's my point: ban ISBoxing bombers, make a few minor changes to the mechanics, see what happens. Don't nerf bombers into the ground, making them more trouble than they're worth. Cloaked ships de-cloaking each other is a horrible and obtuse mechanic, and a band-aid for a problem that you are reluctant to fix for what i can only assume are concerns about people unsubbing their accounts. I for one use these accounts for plenty of things, and i won't unsub them i PROMISE.
The collateral damage from this change in particular will be terrible, much like the NPC AI changes killing solo pvp. |