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Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:35:00 - [1] Ok, so I was thinking about how many morbidly obese people I see on a daily basis, trying to get out of cars and struggling to walk 100m, and I thought, hey.. why not ban McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Wimpy etc... I know they provide jobs to thousands of spotty, talentless, overweight teens (no offence to the latter, dont kill me...), but surely they are just as big a problemn as smoking... Kinda upsets me seing people in such a state cause they are pulled into an unhealthy lifestyle by multi billion pound, conveyor belt, fat cat companys with nothing but ú signs in mind. Your thoughts On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
Velsharoon Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:39:00 - [2] I think you need to go on a diet
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:48:00 - [3] Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Da'Neth Gallente Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:49:00 - [4] you know if thay walk over us smokers thay will come after your vice. I may be trying to quit but I will be damed if Ill let some one take away my right to smoke...... or any thing eless --- join the DA click above
VIctoria Ballentyne Minmatar Pale Riders Incorporated	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:50:00 - [5] mmmmm... KFC..... Cant... waddle... to town..... must.... send..... butler.... "Forbid a man to think for himself or to act for himself and you may add the joy of piracy and the zest of smuggling to his life"
Naburi NasNaburi Rens Nursing Home	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:51:00 - [6] Being an ex morbidly obese person.....I am almost tempted to second your thoughts. Almost - well you stated it already: too many people would lose their jobs. Plus there are enough skinny folks that would probably fade into nothing if their main calorie source would disappear. What about alcohol ? One of the most deadliest drugs is pretty much available everywhere. Its so damn easy here in germany for 12 year olds to buy something in a supermarket and then get crashed to a point where someone has to call the Ambulance for them. Its either all or nothing.
Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:55:00 - [7] Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 16/08/2006 21:56:18 Originally by: Dark Shikari Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. Yes it does, junk food makes people flatulent and it would increase the risk of cancer/heart probs for everyone in that room if everyone had a big mac handed to them or was enticed by the smell of the food of the person sitting next to them (not farting) Also... 20 stone people depress me depression kills mmkay On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Naburi NasNaburi What about alcohol ? NOONONONONO DONT YOU DARE GO THERE!! sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Naburi NasNaburi Rens Nursing Home	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Naburi NasNaburi on 16/08/2006 22:01:58 Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Naburi NasNaburi What about alcohol ? NOONONONONO DONT YOU DARE GO THERE!! If they take my smokes.. I get crumpy rawr And yep..obesity kills. Body and mindwise.
Neon Genesis Gallente Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:26:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. KFC does.

Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Gift wow, this slope sure is getting slippery. must be all the grease and chip fat on it On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:28:00 - [12] wow, this slope sure is getting slippery.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains Originally by: Gift wow, this slope sure is getting slippery. must be all the grease and chip fat on it hehe, that made me smile.
nahtoh Caldari Bull Industries	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Da'Neth you know if thay walk over us smokers thay will come after your vice. I may be trying to quit but I will be damed if Ill let some one take away my right to smoke...... or any thing eless Aye they will pry my buring ciggie from their own eyball first!!!!!! But seriously I do not smoke where its not allowed, nor do I smoke in in non-smokers homes or even attempt to (even when given permission)... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains ... and it would increase the risk of cancer/heart probs for everyone in that room if everyone had a big mac handed to them It wouldn't increase mine, because I wouldn't eat the thing; whereas if someone is SMOKING in the room, I don't have any choice. Escaped carcinogens get into the atmosphere and I will breathe them in simply by being there. Try again. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
PanzerGrenadier Caldari Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:45:00 - [16] Edited by: PanzerGrenadier on 16/08/2006 22:46:27 Originally by: Dark Shikari Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. QFT Smoking in a closed area is a health hazard to others around you. Eating junk food is a decison YOU make. You can't decide whether people around you will smoke or not.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:47:00 - [17] Originally by: PanzerGrenadier Originally by: Dark Shikari Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. Neither does smoking, since you are not allowed to smoke indooors. So whats your point?
Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:48:00 - [18] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains ... and it would increase the risk of cancer/heart probs for everyone in that room if everyone had a big mac handed to them It wouldn't increase mine, because I wouldn't eat the thing; whereas if someone is SMOKING in the room, I don't have any choice. Escaped carcinogens get into the atmosphere and I will breathe them in simply by being there. Try again. Yah, but smoking in public places is banned now so unless you chose to go round to a smokers house and sit there inhaling his/her smoke, it aint a prob any more is it :P On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
nahtoh Caldari Bull Industries	Posted - 2006.08.16 22:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains ... and it would increase the risk of cancer/heart probs for everyone in that room if everyone had a big mac handed to them It wouldn't increase mine, because I wouldn't eat the thing; whereas if someone is SMOKING in the room, I don't have any choice. Escaped carcinogens get into the atmosphere and I will breathe them in simply by being there. Try again. And of course the carcinogens you breath in from walking outside are totaly harmless (cars, motorbikes etc...)...which could be caused by the lazy git going to the fast food joint... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Ischloear	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:03:00 - [20] Originally by: PanzerGrenadier Edited by: PanzerGrenadier on 16/08/2006 22:46:27 Originally by: Dark Shikari Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. QFT Smoking in a closed area is a health hazard to others around you. Eating junk food is a decison YOU make. You can't decide whether people around you will smoke or not. Selling junk food, though... now that's hazardous to other people, and I think that's what the OP was talking about.

Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Ischloear Originally by: PanzerGrenadier Edited by: PanzerGrenadier on 16/08/2006 22:46:27 Originally by: Dark Shikari Junk food doesn't make an entire room smell like crap, nor does it increase the risk of cancer for everyone in that room. QFT Smoking in a closed area is a health hazard to others around you. Eating junk food is a decison YOU make. You can't decide whether people around you will smoke or not. Selling junk food, though... now that's hazardous to other people, and I think that's what the OP was talking about. ping ping we have a winnarrrr On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 16/08/2006 22:49:15 Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains ... and it would increase the risk of cancer/heart probs for everyone in that room if everyone had a big mac handed to them It wouldn't increase mine, because I wouldn't eat the thing; whereas if someone is SMOKING in the room, I don't have any choice. Escaped carcinogens get into the atmosphere and I will breathe them in simply by being there. Try again. Yah, but smoking in public places is banned now so unless you chose to go round to a smokers house and sit there inhaling his/her smoke, it aint a prob any more is it :P No, exactly, it isn't. Which proves that your original thread title was bloody stupid. Thank you. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:20:00 - [23] Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 16/08/2006 23:21:44 Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 16/08/2006 22:49:15 Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains ... and it would increase the risk of cancer/heart probs for everyone in that room if everyone had a big mac handed to them It wouldn't increase mine, because I wouldn't eat the thing; whereas if someone is SMOKING in the room, I don't have any choice. Escaped carcinogens get into the atmosphere and I will breathe them in simply by being there. Try again. Yah, but smoking in public places is banned now so unless you chose to go round to a smokers house and sit there inhaling his/her smoke, it aint a prob any more is it :P No, exactly, it isn't. Which proves that your original thread title was bloody stupid. Thank you. My post is about ->JUNK FOOD<- not smoking... I used smoking as an example of something that was banned because of its risk to health and forwarded the notion that ->Junk Food<- outlets should also be banned for their health risk. I think maybe you should put down the burger and rub the grease off your glasses, then read the thread again p.s. that comment was intended as a friendly jibe and not an insult On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
Deeik Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:26:00 - [24] CONSUMER MF'IN CHOICE seriously, choose to smoke, choose to eat fast food. your choice. not my problem. smoking in a confined area for instance, is still a retarded argument. why? GET OUT OF THAT CONFINED AREA. Do you wanna eat at that restaurant or drink at that bar? Do so. But you're afraid of the tobacco smoke? Then don't eat/drink there. Simple as that. But what about the employees you say? you mean the one's who CHOSE to work there? Same for fast food. You choose to eat. You control yourself. Your fault you're a god damn fat lard, not mine, not the governments, not even the person who sold you the fast food. YOUR OWN GOD DAMN FAULT. It's called free will, stop blamin others for the bad decisions you made, stop trying to control others because you can't control yourself. which brings up the "oh but it costs us in medicare/medicaid moneyz". which is why i hate it so much. inefficient, unfair, wasteful tax money at work, yay. it needs a serious change if you want some kind of medical welfare, ie diseases that you could've avoided yourself aren't covered and such. studies do show that when you have to pay, you do care more ie do something about it. but that "pay pain" is numbed when you do it through taxes and everyone pays a little.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:34:00 - [25] Originally by: Deeik what scares me most about this stuff is that basically what's happening is that the government is saying "you're too stupid to handle it, so we're gonna take care of it", and what's worse, people go "yay, thanks for making the choices for me!". honestly, am i the only one who is terrified by that attitude? No, there are a few of us left, we are a dying breed though.
Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Deeik Edited by: Deeik on 16/08/2006 23:28:15 CONSUMER MF'IN CHOICE seriously, choose to smoke, choose to eat fast food. your choice. not my problem. smoking in a confined area for instance, is still a retarded argument. why? GET OUT OF THAT CONFINED AREA. Do you wanna eat at that restaurant or drink at that bar? Do so. But you're afraid of the tobacco smoke? Then don't eat/drink there. Simple as that. But what about the employees you say? you mean the one's who CHOSE to work there? Same for fast food. You choose to eat. You control yourself. Your fault you're a god damn fat lard, not mine, not the governments, not even the person who sold you the fast food. YOUR OWN GOD DAMN FAULT. It's called free will, stop blamin others for the bad decisions you made, stop trying to control others because you can't control yourself. which brings up the "oh but it costs us in medicare/medicaid moneyz". which is why i hate it so much. inefficient, unfair, wasteful tax money at work, yay. it needs a serious change if you want some kind of medical welfare, ie diseases that you could've avoided yourself aren't covered and such. studies do show that when you have to pay, you do care more ie do something about it. but that "pay pain" is numbed when you do it through taxes and everyone pays a little. what scares me most about this stuff is that basically what's happening is that the government is saying "you're too stupid to handle it, so we're gonna take care of it", and what's worse, people go "yay, thanks for making the choices for me!". honestly, am i the only one who is terrified by that attitude? You're right on a few levels there, but then you could also argue about the fact that underhand tactics such addictive subs are used in both ciggs and fast food and the advertising methods of the latter which rope in kids are partly to blame. Because of this and the fact that a lot of people ARE too stupid to know otherwise or care (not really their fault for being dip****s) it's causeing a strain on society and ruining peoples lives. I can kinda understand the govornments idea that take away the cause and you eliminate the prob, it's worked in the past (helped me give up smoking when ban came in in Scotland). On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:06:00 - [27] Edited by: Xrak on 17/08/2006 00:06:55 ******* FIX YOUR GOD DAMN FORUMS CCP Edit : Well ofc that posts doesnt it!?! Junk food is banned in UK schools as of September. Black market, selling crisps and chocolate anyone? Put the image of a small kid opening a large coat with mars bars and milky ways hung on the inside.
Princess Beefcurtains Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:15:00 - [28] Originally by: Xrak Edited by: Xrak on 17/08/2006 00:06:55 ******* FIX YOUR GOD DAMN FORUMS CCP Edit : Well ofc that posts doesnt it!?! Junk food is banned in UK schools as of September. Black market, selling crisps and chocolate anyone? Put the image of a small kid opening a large coat with mars bars and milky ways hung on the inside. "looky looky, Marz bar for you?" On the 8th day, Beef created Super McDonalds, and Britain sank
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.17 00:33:00 - [29] Smoking is an easy target, because it is politically incorrect at this point. It is sadly humorous to note that people have been smoking in 'western civilization' for hundreds of years, and the life expectancy has gone up the entire time. The slippery slope is one of giving up freedom. If they can regulate smoking (which is, by the way, a PERFECTLY LEGAL product to purchase), what is to stop the "but if will save juuuuuust onnnnneee life" crowd from going after fast food. Or heck, cars. Or...whatever gets on the 'fad' list in any given year? As far as alcohol...already been tried. That worked like a lead balloon, only leading to criminal syndicates, murder and other assorted nastiness. (Sounds kinda' like the current situation with the drug "problems" that are currently occurring in the U.S.--whudda surprise.) The problem in a free society with these things/issues is that they tend to take the "freedom" part of it away, usually bit by bit, until at last we are faced with the totalitarian society, yet again. Choice, whether it be by restaurant/bar owners or individuals while inherently more RISKY in some people's eyes is the best way...but its not the EASY way. The easy way is to dump responsibility to uncle "government". Of course in the world's societies, those who think and understand this will ALWAYS be in the minority...until the slippery slope becomes the cliff...and sometimes not even then. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Deeik Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.17 01:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains You're right on a few levels there, but then you could also argue about the fact that underhand tactics such addictive subs are used in both ciggs and fast food and the advertising methods of the latter which rope in kids are partly to blame. Because of this and the fact that a lot of people ARE too stupid to know otherwise or care (not really their fault for being dip**s) it's causeing a strain on society and ruining peoples lives. I can kinda understand the govornments idea that take away the cause and you eliminate the prob, it's worked in the past (helped me give up smoking when ban came in in Scotland). The attitude of "people SHOULD know better, if they don't, its their own fault" is basically the same as saying there isnt a problemn. If we put this in an extreme case and say applied it to politics in WWII it would have been like world leaders saying "don't worry about ***, he'll come to his senses and realise he's being a dck. lets face it, that attitude wont work. So unless you are lucky enough to be able to live completely independantly of society where such problemns neednt affect you, then something needs to be done. sorry but the underhanded advertisement argument doesn't cut it. i don't care what kind of ad campaign you run and how much of a genius the marketters are, in the end, it was your choice, made by your own free will. and to stop marketting would be an infringement of freedom of speech. and no, there isn't a problem. and the "people are too stupid" thing like you said is a very very dangerous slippery slope, as stated. o hi, you're too stupid to choose a job that is good for you and benefits society. because it drains civilization that you would choose that job, here, we've chosen a job for you. don't like it? too bad, you're too stupid to know otherwise, we're taking care of it. o hi, you're too stupid to raise your children the way you think is right. we're taking over that part. don't like it? you're too stupid so we're stepping in. the "too stupid" argument should never ever be used imo. the only time it should (or any law restricting any freedom) be enforced is when such freedoms are infringing other people's well being. which of course is kind of blurry (ie it ruins society therefore it hurts others therefore impose gov controls), but of course that's subject to scrutiny and debate. you say "The attitude of "people SHOULD know better, if they don't, its their own fault" is basically the same as saying there isnt a problemn.". It ISN'T a problem, not for me, it isn't a problem to others, only the person who screws himself. therefore, imo, it ISN'T a problem. The ****** argument you brought up fails because, like i said, he is directly and obviously screwing others (ie holocaust mebbe? conquest and war?). very very different. sorry but trying to connect people eating burgers to the holocaust doesn't work.



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