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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
413
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:23:00 -
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I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.)
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Max Greed
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:25:00 -
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lulz
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
413
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:27:00 -
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reserved |

Noriko Mai
1555
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:28:00 -
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reserved |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5832
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:29:00 -
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if you feel humiliated by code, that speaks volumes more about you than anything els.
Edit: RABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLE!
Edit 2: just finished reading the whole op HA! =]I[= |

Hengle Teron
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2588
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:30:00 -
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Can I haz your stuff ? |

Iain Cariaba
537
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:31:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:tl;dr Butthurt whine thread about CODE. #227,401 You forgot to add a tl;dr, so I provided one for you.
You've gotta love CODE. for their ability to generate tears. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. |

Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
171
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:31:00 -
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LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it? WTS BPO : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307169 |

Paranoid Loyd
2310
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:32:00 -
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 "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Zimm Hakkar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:33:00 -
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Rabble
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5832
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:37:00 -
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Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it? playing the predator in the one game that explicitly and infamously has allowed it for over a decade dose not indicate a psychological disorder.
Difficulty disassociating moral value responses from digital acts on the other hand... =]I[= |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4922
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:38:00 -
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Buy your lifetime CODE protection passes here! For a mere 100mil you will never have to worry about code ever again!
Special ISBoxer offer: Cheaper in the dozen! 12 accounts for just 1 bil.
Get it while it's hot! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5832
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:39:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote: Edit: Lol, I just saw why you are whining, two freighters in one day, how dumb can you be? lol, that wasn't even code it was Marmite! =]I[= |

Paranoid Loyd
2310
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:41:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote: Edit: Lol, I just saw why you are whining, two freighters in one day, how dumb can you be? lol, that wasn't even code  it was Marmite! Nah, search corp, it was yesterday. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6861
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:42:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote: Edit: Lol, I just saw why you are whining, two freighters in one day!?! #Slowlearner
OP should just Biomass now to avoid further humiliation.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5832
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:43:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote: Edit: Lol, I just saw why you are whining, two freighters in one day, how dumb can you be? lol, that wasn't even code  it was Marmite! Nah, search corp, it was yesterday. ah got it.

*Uedama* no excuse. =]I[= |

Commentus Nolen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:44:00 -
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Well at least this will liven up the forums this Saturday. |

Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
25
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:44:00 -
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I was kinda surprised that they have moved on from actions against AFK miners to possing autopiloting shuttles, but whatever.
I refuse to feed the trolls, so I just shrugged-off my loss and moved on.
The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth. Sorrowful is the state of humanity, which shall never be free until all share equally in Liberty.
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Hengle Teron
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2589
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:46:00 -
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IMO they should remove non-profit ganks from low, null and wh as well...
any fleet that loses more than they loot should take a 7 days ban every time that happens |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1279
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:49:00 -
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Wow....
This reminds me of the guy that told me CCP needs to remove PVP from "his game"
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
513
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:54:00 -
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I am assuming this was a joke... but I don't think it is.
Also regarding the empty freighters, you really should just put stuff in it to prevent that. You know anything. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
220
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:01:00 -
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How about we just eliminate the auto-pilot button instead? Between Ignorance and Wisdom |

PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS.
2372
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:15:00 -
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*popcorn* |

Ron Erhlod
Crab Sticks
0
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:15:00 -
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that joke ? yes? |

Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
85
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:25:00 -
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-1
So you want to ban without warning players for engaging in behaviour (Highsec ganking) that has not only been been tolerated for 10+ years, but was explicitly how the game was designed?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because they trash talk, gloat over a victory - "rubbing it in" as you say, or have at thier own propaganda website like practically every other large player group in Eve?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because you are licensed mental health professional and have diagnosed these people as an actual threat to society, or at least other players, over the Internet?
I don't even know where to begin. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
416
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:47:00 -
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I am assuming this was a joke... but I don't think it is.
Also regarding the empty freighters, you really should just put stuff in it to prevent that. You know anything.
This is coming from a player who's former name was offensive enough for CCP to rename it . |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
416
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:48:00 -
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Black Pedro wrote:-1
So you want to ban without warning players for engaging in behaviour (Highsec ganking) that has not only been been tolerated for 10+ years, but was explicitly how the game was designed?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because they trash talk, gloat over a victory - "rubbing it in" as you say, or have at thier own propaganda website like practically every other large player group in Eve?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because you are licensed mental health professional and have diagnosed these people as an actual threat to society, or at least other players, over the Internet?
I don't even know where to begin.
You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1687
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:52:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:clearly sociopathic behavior
Naturally, you have the medical qualifications to back this up, yes?
Dream Five wrote:such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior.
It speaks volumes about you that you think the people reporting the death threats are the ones who should be banned, rather than the ones making the threats. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Paranoid Loyd
2311
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:52:00 -
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I can't wait to see the article about you.  "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
416
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:54:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Dream Five wrote:clearly sociopathic behavior Naturally, you have the medical qualifications to back this up, yes? Dream Five wrote:such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior. It speaks volumes about you that you think the people reporting the death threats are the ones who should be banned, rather than the ones making the threats.
Don't twist my words. F for Fail attempt at spindoctoring. I never said that the person who posted it in first place shouldn't be banned. |
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1687
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:55:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I can't wait to see the article about you. 
Hahahahahaha.
Seriously, though, when I saw the thread title I hoped that someone had finally mustered the manpower to come at us in-game. Should have remembered this is Eve general discussion, commonly known as whinebear central. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
29
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:56:00 -
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Confirming that I am a self-righteous sociopath who likes to watch people suffer. I have a copy of "Mein Kampf" on my table, and I sexually harass children regularly. I also set bear traps in my local park and catch homeless cats and dogs to dissect them while they are still alive. Old people and small kids get hurt when they walk over them occasionally, but I am okay with that.
I meet my friends from CODE. every day. We and Erotica1 and James 315 brag about the people we have driven to committing suicide, caressing our... egos. Anal Canal even organized a suicide contest once. CCP had to change her name to make the media think that all those people were driven to killing themselves in another game.
We are bad, and we all must be banned.
+1 |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5835
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:57:00 -
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Dream Five wrote: You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior.
ill say it again ,playing the predator in the one game that explicitly and infamously has allowed it for over a decade dose not indicate a psychological disorder.
Neither does shaming publicly those who actually have difficulty disassociating moral value responses from digital acts (which is indicative of an unhealthy state of mind).
death threats over a video game are not ok. =]I[= |

Paranoid Loyd
2314
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:58:00 -
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In all seriousness though, WTF were you thinking sending the second freighter through two and a half hours after the first one was ganked? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
514
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:58:00 -
[35] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I am assuming this was a joke... but I don't think it is.
Also regarding the empty freighters, you really should just put stuff in it to prevent that. You know anything. This is coming from a player who's former name was offensive enough for CCP to rename it .
Only after 7 years, and is a medical term, and by far not the most offensive name... And if your retort is really 'you had a silly name' your argument is fundamentally flawed. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
418
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:58:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I can't wait to see the article about you. 
Thank you. I hope together we can raise maximum awareness in the community about how and why CODE operates. They are pretty slick spindoctors and the roleplay disguise is well thought out so that even for CCP it's difficult to see through and identify their true nature. |

Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
443
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Posted - 2014.10.18 18:59:00 -
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Aren't you one of those who threatened to spam this daily until changes are made? Didn't this also happen about a month ago? |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
418
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:00:00 -
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I am assuming this was a joke... but I don't think it is.
Also regarding the empty freighters, you really should just put stuff in it to prevent that. You know anything. This is coming from a player who's former name was offensive enough for CCP to rename it . Only after 7 years, and is a medical term, and by far not the most offensive name... And if your retort is really 'you had a silly name' your argument is fundamentally flawed.
You are comfortable enough with using a name offensive to minors by everybody's standards and have the guts to actually defend it. That only shows that you are either clueless about what constitutes acceptable behavior (as some sociopaths are) or actually engage in it deliberately. I'm thinking the latter. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1689
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:01:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:the roleplay disguise is well thought out so that even for CCP it's difficult to see through and identify their true nature.
I'm not sure the devs and GMs will take kindly to you implying that they're idiots. Can't imagine the ISDs will appreciate your trolling, either. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Paranoid Loyd
2314
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:03:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I can't wait to see the article about you.  Thank you. I hope together we can raise maximum awareness in the community about how and why CODE operates. They are pretty slick spindoctors and the roleplay disguise is well thought out so that even for CCP it's difficult to see through and identify their true nature. Anyone who doesn't have their head up their posterior knows how they operate. They blow stuff up and laugh at people who can't handle losing spacepixels. We laugh with them, like we are laughing at you now. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
418
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:03:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Aren't you one of those who threatened to spam this daily until changes are made? Didn't this also happen about a month ago?
I'm not asking for any game changes, i'm only suggesting that people need to think about behavior of their EVE co-inhabitants. This is primarily an awareness campaign to help people understand who the people behind CODE really are.
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
515
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:04:00 -
[42] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I am assuming this was a joke... but I don't think it is.
Also regarding the empty freighters, you really should just put stuff in it to prevent that. You know anything. This is coming from a player who's former name was offensive enough for CCP to rename it . Only after 7 years, and is a medical term, and by far not the most offensive name... And if your retort is really 'you had a silly name' your argument is fundamentally flawed. You are comfortable enough with using a name offensive to minors by everybody's standards and have the guts to actually defend it. That only shows that you are either clueless about what constitutes acceptable behavior (as some sociopaths are) or actually engage in it deliberately. I'm thinking the latter.
Yes, I picked a medical term that was slightly funny. It is no different that lung or phalanges, just it involves parts of the digestive system.
Proof.
The real question is did you learn anything from loosing these ships? Maybe you would like purchase a permit? They are only 10 million ISK and valid for one full year! What a great deal. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1690
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:06:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:This is primarily an awareness campaign to help people understand who the people behind CODE really are.
Awesome! Now code-violating miners will look even sillier when they claim ignorance of the Code. \o/ Perhaps you should grab a catalyst and come gank with us. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
418
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:08:00 -
[44] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I can't wait to see the article about you.  Hahahahahaha. Seriously, though, when I saw the thread title I hoped that someone had finally mustered the manpower to come at us in-game. Should have remembered this is Eve general discussion, commonly known as whinebear central.
I would enjoy a military confrontation with someone in-game who is a worthy opponent and not a sick sociopath. Would be a waste of my time. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
418
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:11:00 -
[45] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Dream Five wrote:This is primarily an awareness campaign to help people understand who the people behind CODE really are.
Awesome! Now code-violating miners will look even sillier when they claim ignorance of the Code. \o/ Perhaps you should grab a catalyst and come gank with us.
I wouldn't mind trying ganking with someone who isn't sick and twisted and humiliates other players. I'm sure ganking is fun.
For your information, the proper response to players outrage over blown up ship, would be either saying nothing or something like:
"Sorry dude, this is just business"
or
"We blew up your ship in the game because we were bored."
Instead of posting humiliating reposts of player rage on your twisted sick website and gloating over it.
Your roleplay is fundamentally sick, it's not based on fun or profit, it's based on deriving sick satisfaction from players "tears" and rage. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1690
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:12:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:I would enjoy a military confrontation with someone in-game who is a worthy opponent and not a sick sociopath. Would be a waste of my time.
And again with the medical diagnosis, this time complete with excuses why you can't fight us. I'm going to bet that you're actually not a doctor. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Paranoid Loyd
2314
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:13:00 -
[47] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:admiral root wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I can't wait to see the article about you.  Hahahahahaha. Seriously, though, when I saw the thread title I hoped that someone had finally mustered the manpower to come at us in-game. Should have remembered this is Eve general discussion, commonly known as whinebear central. I would enjoy a military confrontation with someone in-game who is a worthy opponent and not a sick sociopath. Would be a waste of my time. OP fights with honor. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
419
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I am assuming this was a joke... but I don't think it is.
Also regarding the empty freighters, you really should just put stuff in it to prevent that. You know anything. This is coming from a player who's former name was offensive enough for CCP to rename it . Only after 7 years, and is a medical term, and by far not the most offensive name... And if your retort is really 'you had a silly name' your argument is fundamentally flawed. You are comfortable enough with using a name offensive to minors by everybody's standards and have the guts to actually defend it. That only shows that you are either clueless about what constitutes acceptable behavior (as some sociopaths are) or actually engage in it deliberately. I'm thinking the latter. Yes, I picked a medical term that was slightly funny. It is no different that lung or phalanges, just it involves parts of the digestive system. Proof.The real question is did you learn anything from loosing these ships? Maybe you would like purchase a permit? They are only 10 million ISK and valid for one full year! What a great deal.
I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
419
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:20:00 -
[49] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Dream Five wrote:I would enjoy a military confrontation with someone in-game who is a worthy opponent and not a sick sociopath. Would be a waste of my time. And again with the medical diagnosis, this time complete with excuses why you can't fight us. I'm going to bet that you're actually not a doctor.
I'm mostly a trader/hauler and i know i'm not good at PVP and mostly an EFT warrior. Doesn't mean i'll get more into it one day. Just not with you. |

BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
465
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:24:00 -
[50] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:
I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I think you should get a permit and at a measly 10M isk for a full year, it's a real bargain.
It's either that or you vacate James 315 space (aka Hisec.)
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com |
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Eryn Velasquez
71
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:24:00 -
[51] - Quote
Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it?
You're wrong i think - about 5-6% of the population are sociopaths, and many of these reach higher positions in real life, where rules and laws are enforced, which lead to controlled behaviour of the majority of sociopaths.
In a game like eve, these sick people can live out their sickness without being punished. That's the difference. GÇ£A man's freedom consists in his being able to do whatever he wills, but that he should not, by any human power, be forced to do what is against his will.GÇ¥-áGÇò Jean-Jacques Rousseau-á |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
517
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:26:00 -
[52] - Quote
Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
419
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:if you feel humiliated by code, that speaks volumes more about you than anything els. Edit: RABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLE! Edit 2: just finished reading the whole op HA!
I personally don't. I have thicker skin than that but it was really reading their repost and gloating over victims' outrage made me post this. I think people are outraged for a reason, and the reason is not ganking. They are having trouble fighting CODE because their disguise as roleplay is quite good.
I'm also interested in making EVE a better place for other players who might have difficulty pinpointing and articulating what exactly is wrong with these rather proficient spindoctors. Took me a while to formuate it in my head. |

Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
86
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Posted - 2014.10.18 19:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:-1
So you want to ban without warning players for engaging in behaviour (Highsec ganking) that has not only been been tolerated for 10+ years, but was explicitly how the game was designed?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because they trash talk, gloat over a victory - "rubbing it in" as you say, or have at thier own propaganda website like practically every other large player group in Eve?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because you are licensed mental health professional and have diagnosed these people as an actual threat to society, or at least other players, over the Internet?
I don't even know where to begin. You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior.
Ok, so you see the problem. Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve with the exception that perhaps their main opponents are disparate, often PvE focused players who have a penchant for coming to the forums to whine about their losses. Eve is full of PvP conflict, trash talk and propaganda, as would be expected from a game that was explicitly designed to pit one player against another - Code is nothing special in this regard.
If you are serious about this, you first need to change your petition to not be centered around banning a specific player group, rather you should petition for a change in harassment policies themselves. Specifically singling out a player group to be banned because of what really boils down to is "I don't like them" will not fly and just makes you look like just another butthurt Code victim begging CCP to change the rules in your favour.
So now the problem is what do you want the new definition of harassment to be? It can't be one player feeling bad because he was beaten at the game by another player (such as a miner losing his ship to a ganker) as you would then ban PvP. Would you then suggest some 'sportsmanship' clause that prohibits players from interacting negatively with other players they have beaten? But Eve is a sandbox so how do you know what a victory condition is? And how will you police this, especially if the interaction takes place in a third-party medium like Teamspeak or on the forum of a website. And who will decide where the line is when a good-natured vow of in-game revenge become a threat or harassment?
Honestly, if you actually managed to get a 'sportmanship' clause enacted, more carebears would get hit with bans for their bad reactions to being ganked then would Code members who seem to be in much better control of their behaviour. Perhaps it is because they understand that Eve is just a game, one where you can indeed choose to play the villain. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1694
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
Dream Five wrote: This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
Out of interest, which particular agent has asked you in excess of 20 times, and why didn't you block them when it started to feel annoyingly repetitive? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
419
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:32:00 -
[56] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently?
I already explained to you and to the reading audience that the permits you offer are a scam designed to humiliate players. Why do you continue offering me a permit when you already know that i know that they are a scam? What is the objective of this post other than attempt to trigger an outrage? |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1694
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:34:00 -
[57] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Why do you continue offering me a permit when you already know that i know that they are a scam?
No doubt you can provide proof that it's a scam, perhaps by producing killmails of players who both purchased a permit and fully complied with the Code. Feel free to include a copy of your medical licence at the same time. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
145
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:35:00 -
[58] - Quote
while i agree with you Dream Five, topic H is null and void as CCP GM (or GMs, i only know of one thats had direct contact with code) assisted in making the code and who they are, so in a way they are sponsored by CCP and by all of the pilots that do nothing but constantly throw them isk "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
419
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:37:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote: You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior.
ill say it again , playing the predator in the one game that explicitly and infamously has allowed it for over a decade dose not indicate a psychological disorder.Neither does shaming publicly those who actually have difficulty disassociating moral value responses from digital acts (which is indicative of an unhealthy state of mind). death threats over a video game are not ok.
I agree. However it is ALSO not ok to repost those death threats and gloat over it. I already said that the individual in question was clearly angry/disturbed. Mocking disturbed/angrly people is one of the primary goals or is The primary goal of their website/roleplay. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1694
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:38:00 -
[60] - Quote
Agondray wrote:CCP GM (or GMs, i only know of one thats had direct contact with code) assisted in making the code
Wrong.
Rather than whine on the forum, James 315 used the petition system to ensure that what he was doing complied with the rules. He was given GM guidance on that issue. CCP in now way specifically endorse what we do, though they presumably generally endorse us asploding spaceships. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
|

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
419
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:42:00 -
[61] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Agondray wrote:CCP GM (or GMs, i only know of one thats had direct contact with code) assisted in making the code Wrong. Rather than whine on the forum, James 315 used the petition system to ensure that what he was doing complied with the rules. He was given GM guidance on that issue. CCP in now way specifically endorse what we do, though they presumably generally endorse us asploding spaceships.
I'm sure given how elaborate and twisted the disguise of his sick roleplay is, he performed that upfront move. However i'm sure they will also reconsider their stance given the evidence of how you exploited their granted permission. |

Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
141
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:42:00 -
[62] - Quote
OP mentions minerbumping.com several times in her post. I now feel compelled to visit the site again and get the latest mewlings from the sickly and weak.
Thank you for advertising their website.  |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1694
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:43:00 -
[63] - Quote
Charax Bouclier wrote:OP mentions minerbumping.com several times in her post. I now feel compelled to visit the site again and get the latest mewlings from the sickly and weak. Thank you for advertising their website. 
Funnily enough, that's exactly how I came to be involved with the New Order a couple of years back. Whinebears are their own worst enemy. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5836
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:45:00 -
[64] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:if you feel humiliated by code, that speaks volumes more about you than anything els. Edit: RABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLERABLE! Edit 2: just finished reading the whole op HA! I personally don't. I have thicker skin than that but it was really reading their repost and gloating over victims' outrage made me post this. I think people are outraged for a reason, and the reason is not ganking. They are having trouble fighting CODE because their disguise as roleplay is quite good. I'm also interested in making EVE a better place for other players who might have difficulty pinpointing and articulating what exactly is wrong with these rather proficient spindoctors. Took me a while to formuate it in my head.
Soo you just Don like that they point and laugh at you afterwards, is that it ?
How old are you?
You also haven't articulated anything on anyone's behalf , you just sperged some hilarious carebear (and stereotypical) rhetoric and made a laughing stock of yourself , not to mention painting a big "Gank Me" sign on your own face. =]I[= |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1698
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
To be fair, he's also turned this in a re-make of the like and get likes thread: Code edition. :) No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Anslo
Scope Works
18530
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:52:00 -
[66] - Quote
CODE is the cancer killing Eve.
|

Mag's
the united
18002
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:54:00 -
[67] - Quote
Damn it, now I want some. ...... BRB
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1701
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:56:00 -
[68] - Quote
Anslo wrote:CODE is the cancer killing Eve.
Oh man, just when this thread couldn't get any funnier. BTW, how's the resistance going?  No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Lister Dax
Intergalactic Trade and Harm
11
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:56:00 -
[69] - Quote
I see you have inherited the cat herders crook. How does that work, is there a ceremony? |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5840
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:56:00 -
[70] - Quote
Anslo wrote:CODE is the cancer killing Eve. Eve seems to be somewhat good at tanking the various cancers killing it. someone should probably look into it. =]I[= |
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
520
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:CODE is the cancer killing Eve. Oh man, just when this thread couldn't get any funnier. BTW, how's the resistance going? 
Shouldn't we call his so called resistance 'Chemo' instead? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Anslo
Scope Works
18530
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:58:00 -
[72] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:CODE is the cancer killing Eve. Oh man, just when this thread couldn't get any funnier. BTW, how's the resistance going?  Shouldn't we call his so called resistance 'Chemo' instead? Pretty good actually. Last time a CODE nerd came by they very quickly left. Fortress Huola, Bastion of the Resistance.
In other words, come at us brah.
|

Lister Dax
Intergalactic Trade and Harm
11
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 19:58:00 -
[73] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:CODE is the cancer killing Eve. Oh man, just when this thread couldn't get any funnier. BTW, how's the resistance going?  Shouldn't we call his so called resistance 'Chemo' instead?
Nah it's more like some holistic 'medicine'. |

Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
121
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
0) There's really no need to go any further than the recent quotation on minerbumping of death threats that they received from a ganked player. Quoting such disturbed people, sending them follow up "umadbro" mails and tryign to infuriate them even more clearly shows that their objective is to produce such reaction and they derive satisfaction from it. It's also sad that we harbor such sick individuals within the EVE community. a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing or are having difficulties navigating their behavior disguised as grey area roleplay.
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.)
I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
|

Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
142
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:00:00 -
[75] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
0) There's really no need to go any further than the recent quotation on minerbumping of death threats that they received from a ganked player. Quoting such disturbed people, sending them follow up "umadbro" mails and tryign to infuriate them even more clearly shows that their objective is to produce such reaction and they derive satisfaction from it. It's also sad that we harbor such sick individuals within the EVE community. a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing or are having difficulties navigating their behavior disguised as grey area roleplay.
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.)
The tears are a vital part of making profit. You see, miner ganking itself generally breaks even OR operates at a slight loss. In order to make a profit, we rely on reimbursements. These reimbursements are funded through donations to the New Order from people who enjoy reading entertaining stories on Minerbumping.com. The entertaining stories are crucial to our operation. If miners responded maturely and ignored us, well we would go out of business.
PS. I appreciate your addition to my jar. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17190
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:00:00 -
[76] - Quote
Such thread.
Very wow.
Much hilarity.
Your stuff.
Can I haz?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
422
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:01:00 -
[77] - Quote
Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:-1
So you want to ban without warning players for engaging in behaviour (Highsec ganking) that has not only been been tolerated for 10+ years, but was explicitly how the game was designed?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because they trash talk, gloat over a victory - "rubbing it in" as you say, or have at thier own propaganda website like practically every other large player group in Eve?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because you are licensed mental health professional and have diagnosed these people as an actual threat to society, or at least other players, over the Internet?
I don't even know where to begin. You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior. Ok, so you see the problem. Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve with the exception that perhaps their main opponents are disparate, often PvE focused players who have a penchant for coming to the forums to whine about their losses. Eve is full of PvP conflict, trash talk and propaganda, as would be expected from a game that was explicitly designed to pit one player against another - Code is nothing special in this regard. If you are serious about this, you first need to change your petition to not be centered around banning a specific player group, rather you should petition for a change in harassment policies themselves. Specifically singling out a player group to be banned because of what really boils down to is "I don't like them" will not fly and just makes you look like just another butthurt Code victim begging CCP to change the rules in your favour. So now the problem is what do you want the new definition of harassment to be? It can't be one player feeling bad because he was beaten at the game by another player (such as a miner losing his ship to a ganker) as you would then ban PvP. Would you then suggest some 'sportsmanship' clause that prohibits players from interacting negatively with other players they have beaten? But Eve is a sandbox so how do you know what a victory condition is? And how will you police this, especially if the interaction takes place in a third-party medium like Teamspeak or on the forum of a website. And who will decide where the line is when a good-natured vow of in-game revenge become a threat or harassment? Honestly, if you actually managed to get a 'sportmanship' clause enacted, more carebears would get hit with bans for their bad reactions to being ganked then would Code members who seem to be in much better control of their behaviour. Perhaps it is because they understand that Eve is just a game, one where you can indeed choose to play the villain.
>> t can't be one player feeling bad because he was beaten at the game by another player (such as a miner losing his ship to a ganker) as you would then ban PvP
Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
522
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:07:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:Dream Five wrote:I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
0) There's really no need to go any further than the recent quotation on minerbumping of death threats that they received from a ganked player. Quoting such disturbed people, sending them follow up "umadbro" mails and tryign to infuriate them even more clearly shows that their objective is to produce such reaction and they derive satisfaction from it. It's also sad that we harbor such sick individuals within the EVE community. a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing or are having difficulties navigating their behavior disguised as grey area roleplay.
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.) I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
Because this seems like a logical thing for not only CCP but also government agencies to do.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
426
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:10:00 -
[79] - Quote
Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it?
Sometimes i think you are right :(
But i still have hope that it's just the loud minority. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5842
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:11:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:Dream Five wrote:I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
0) There's really no need to go any further than the recent quotation on minerbumping of death threats that they received from a ganked player. Quoting such disturbed people, sending them follow up "umadbro" mails and tryign to infuriate them even more clearly shows that their objective is to produce such reaction and they derive satisfaction from it. It's also sad that we harbor such sick individuals within the EVE community. a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing or are having difficulties navigating their behavior disguised as grey area roleplay.
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.) I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery). Now that is some impressive tinfoil hattery right there. =]I[= |
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
524
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:Dream Five wrote:I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
0) There's really no need to go any further than the recent quotation on minerbumping of death threats that they received from a ganked player. Quoting such disturbed people, sending them follow up "umadbro" mails and tryign to infuriate them even more clearly shows that their objective is to produce such reaction and they derive satisfaction from it. It's also sad that we harbor such sick individuals within the EVE community. a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing or are having difficulties navigating their behavior disguised as grey area roleplay.
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.) I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
Oh I also think you forgot to include charges against the actual players due to violation of the RICO act. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:14:00 -
[82] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently?
Why don't you go shove your head up your Anal Canal where it belongs? |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
427
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:14:00 -
[83] - Quote
Tear Jar wrote: PS. I appreciate your addition to my jar.
Saw your edit there. You removed the part where you claimed that repeated contact of victims doesn't happen. |

Mag's
the united
18006
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:15:00 -
[84] - Quote
Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it? So with this logic, most of those that play chess are murderers?
Or those that play Hungry Hippo have an eating disorder?
Hmmm, food for thought.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18531
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:15:00 -
[85] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it? Sometimes i think you are right :( But i still have hope that it's just the loud minority. It is a loud minority. Don't worry. The rest of non nerds are too busy playing eve to forum warrior.
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Anslo
Scope Works
18531
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:16:00 -
[86] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently? Why don't you go shove your head up your Anal Canal where it belongs? GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!
|

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
4056
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:16:00 -
[87] - Quote
Anslo wrote:The rest of non nerds are too busy playing eve uh, the
no hmm
i,
what  |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
524
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:17:00 -
[88] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently? Why don't you go shove your head up your Anal Canal where it belongs?
Is this a real life threat or an in game threat? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Anslo
Scope Works
18531
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:17:00 -
[89] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Anslo wrote:The rest of non nerds are too busy playing eve uh, the no hmm i, what  Huehuehue <3 ya Benny
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1703
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:18:00 -
[90] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Now that is some impressive tinfoil hattery right there.
Hat, gloves and scarf.
E: derp, typo. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
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Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
143
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:18:00 -
[91] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:-1
So you want to ban without warning players for engaging in behaviour (Highsec ganking) that has not only been been tolerated for 10+ years, but was explicitly how the game was designed?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because they trash talk, gloat over a victory - "rubbing it in" as you say, or have at thier own propaganda website like practically every other large player group in Eve?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because you are licensed mental health professional and have diagnosed these people as an actual threat to society, or at least other players, over the Internet?
I don't even know where to begin. You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior.
We post death threats to highlight the massive double standard CCP has on their response to "out of game" harassment. I have reported many death threats and watchlist the offenders. These players will play interrupted for weeks after threatening me and my family, suggesting no action was taken. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
427
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:18:00 -
[92] - Quote
Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail.
CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18531
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:18:00 -
[93] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently? Why don't you go shove your head up your Anal Canal where it belongs? Is this a real life threat or an in game threat? It is a timely suggestion. Not a threat. Please do not brand it as anything else.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5846
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:19:00 -
[94] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Dream Five wrote:Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it? Sometimes i think you are right :( But i still have hope that it's just the loud minority. It is a loud minority. Don't worry. The rest of non nerds are too busy playing eve to forum warrior. This is the nerdy game anslo. we are to other nerds what they are to normal people. none of us are in a position to use that as ammo. =]I[= |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
427
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:19:00 -
[95] - Quote
Tear Jar wrote:Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:-1
So you want to ban without warning players for engaging in behaviour (Highsec ganking) that has not only been been tolerated for 10+ years, but was explicitly how the game was designed?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because they trash talk, gloat over a victory - "rubbing it in" as you say, or have at thier own propaganda website like practically every other large player group in Eve?
Or do you want to ban these players without warning because you are licensed mental health professional and have diagnosed these people as an actual threat to society, or at least other players, over the Internet?
I don't even know where to begin. You have a point and each isolated incident is not sufficient. However combined with clearly sociopathic behavior such as recent reposting of death threats on their website with an objective to rub it in and make fun of clearly disturbed individuals. That's not OK and should clearly constitute a violation of reasonable player behavior. We post death threats to highlight the massive double standard CCP has on their response to "out of game" harassment. I have reported many death threats and watchlist the offenders. These players will play interrupted for weeks after threatening me and my family, suggesting no action was taken.
A bit too late to play the victim card. There's abundant evidence that your objective is mainly player humiliation. |

Mag's
the united
18006
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:20:00 -
[96] - Quote
Anslo wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
I mean wouldn't it be easier to purchase the permit and follow The Code as a compliant person rather than risk more of your ships like you have recently? Why don't you go shove your head up your Anal Canal where it belongs? Is this a real life threat or an in game threat? It is a timely suggestion. Not a threat. Please do not brand it as anything else. How would you know, unless that's your alt?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18531
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:20:00 -
[97] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Anslo wrote:Dream Five wrote:Almethea wrote:LOL, welcome in EVE! you must be new? just for info +/-90% of player base are sociopath and ccp approve. deal with it? Sometimes i think you are right :( But i still have hope that it's just the loud minority. It is a loud minority. Don't worry. The rest of non nerds are too busy playing eve to forum warrior. This is the nerdy game anslo. we are to other nerds what they are to normal people. none of us are in a position to use that as ammo. Breh I lift it's cool. I'm no nerd.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5846
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:21:00 -
[98] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... =]I[= |

Anslo
Scope Works
18531
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:23:00 -
[99] - Quote
Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man.
|

Mag's
the united
18006
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:24:00 -
[100] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man. So you're guessing. Gotcha. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
|

Anslo
Scope Works
18533
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:26:00 -
[101] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man. So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski.
|

Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
144
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:27:00 -
[102] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote:Dream Five wrote:I've formulated my understanding of how and why CODE operates and would like to propose a petition to
1) Permanently ban all their leadership 2) Establish new guidelines for how player post-gank humiliation is unacceptable behavior in EVE
The reasons for this are:
I believe that they gank for player humiliation (not profit) and it's their primary goal.
This belief is based on them contacting players repeatedly after they ganked them even after they told them that they don't want their permit.
0) There's really no need to go any further than the recent quotation on minerbumping of death threats that they received from a ganked player. Quoting such disturbed people, sending them follow up "umadbro" mails and tryign to infuriate them even more clearly shows that their objective is to produce such reaction and they derive satisfaction from it. It's also sad that we harbor such sick individuals within the EVE community. a) Posting their "tears" publically on their website, almost daily (see minerbumping.com), including frequently information that is highly derogatory and came from a player that is angry over a loss of their spaceship b) Rubbing it in after the gank, repeated convos to players who are already outraged over the loss of their spaceship c) Attempts to get them on voice comms, record their rage and publish it on soundcloud/youtube b) They gank completely empty freighters e) They repeatedly try to sell permits to people who already repeatedly said no at least 20 times f) After they sell their permits they revoke it based on being AFK in station, so the permits are not designed for profit but for player griefing because it's impossible to comply with the terms of the "permit" g) If you read their website you can see that James 315 is a sick self aggrandizing individual h) You can see that CCP has failed thus far to ban them because they don't quite see through their sickly disguised roleplay what they are really doing or are having difficulties navigating their behavior disguised as grey area roleplay.
Therefore I believe that these people or at least their leadership is basically a group of sick individuals who derive pleasure primarily from their victims' suffering and need out of game psychiatric help. We as players are not qualified to give them this help and neither is CCP. In the meantime the game would be better off without them. Let's play with respect and make EVE a better place where pirates seek profits and not player humiliation.
Please +1 if you feel the same way.
Also whenever you get contacted by them for post gank or with an offer to buy a permit, petition them to CCP for humiliation using the factual rationale provided above.
Note that this is not about highsec ganking, it's about this group of sick individuals who basically use EVE for griefing and derive pleasure from it.
At this point i feel like any compromise such as them "fixing up" their behavior is unacceptable and they need to be permanently banned from the game. Minerbumping.com needs to be shut down and these players who unfortunately can't behave in a respectful way expunged from the EVE gaming community.
(There are other issues with actual game mechanics that are questionable, such as bumping to get ready in position and the victim being unable to do anything about it and the fact that people can use 40 ISBoxed thrashers. Neither of those things seem quite right but i can see how people can disagree on that.) I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery). Now that is some impressive tinfoil hattery right there.
Its been a while since I have seen the old "CODE extortion is illegal" claim. |

Mag's
the united
18008
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:28:00 -
[103] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man. So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski. We already established you are guessing, it's fine brah. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18533
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:28:00 -
[104] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap.
Kind of sad really.
|

Anslo
Scope Works
18533
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:29:00 -
[105] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man. So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski. We already established you are guessing, it's fine brah.  So English isn't your first language then. That's really all you had to say brohan.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1703
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:31:00 -
[106] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap.
Plenty of the people who want a line drawn are in the New Order. Whoops. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Mag's
the united
18008
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:31:00 -
[107] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap.
Kind of sad really. I see you're on a guess fest. Unless you have facts to back this up, in which case go ahead and post it. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18533
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:31:00 -
[108] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Plenty of the people who want a line drawn are in the New Order. Whoops. That's the point. So they can skate the very edges of harassment and get away with it.
|

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
428
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:32:00 -
[109] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ...
Unfortunately there's no other way to identify and deal with this other than factual.
Gloating over other people's suffering & pain is a staple of such conduct. In this case the group is also pretty large so there's some ill-motivated herd mentaility going on. I was actually pretty shocked as the group appears to be pretty tight knit as well considering their clearly abusive behavior. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18533
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:32:00 -
[110] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap.
Kind of sad really. I see you're on a guess fest. Unless you have facts to back this up, in which case go ahead and post it.  When you grasp English better then sure. You still can't tell the difference between a threat and a suggestion.
|
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1703
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:33:00 -
[111] - Quote
Anslo wrote:admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Plenty of the people who want a line drawn are in the New Order. Whoops. That's the point. So they can skate the very edges of harassment and get away with it.
Wow, dude, you pulled that U-turn so fast you forgot to edit your previous post. First you said the ones who prefer the grey are the "bad" guys, now you're saying the ones who want a clear line are. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Mag's
the united
18008
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:34:00 -
[112] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote: Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man.
So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski. We already established you are guessing, it's fine brah.  So English isn't your first language then. That's really all you had to say brohan. Oh it is, but even then it is still a guess even if it was an educated one. 
Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18533
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:35:00 -
[113] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:admiral root wrote:Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Plenty of the people who want a line drawn are in the New Order. Whoops. That's the point. So they can skate the very edges of harassment and get away with it. Wow, dude, you pulled that U-turn so fast you forgot to edit your previous post. First you said the ones who prefer the grey are the "bad" guys, now you're saying the ones who want a clear line are. Oh my bad. iPhone sucks to post on. No I meant the ~bad~ guys want the line. Versus CCP keeping it grey so that ~bad~ guys can't skate the line.
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Mag's
the united
18009
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:36:00 -
[114] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap.
Kind of sad really. I see you're on a guess fest. Unless you have facts to back this up, in which case go ahead and post it.  When you grasp English better then sure. You still can't tell the difference between a threat and a suggestion. Nice avoidance. So that would be a no then? Cool.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18537
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:37:00 -
[115] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah.  Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5849
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:37:00 -
[116] - Quote
Tear Jar wrote:
Its been a while since I have seen the old "CODE extortion is illegal" claim.
I miss dinsdale , he set the Barr for the tinfoil brigade, without him we get this "[insert PvP entity here] are the super devils and big meany faces who club orphans and pee on the toilet seat". =]I[= |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
526
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:37:00 -
[117] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man. So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski. We already established you are guessing, it's fine brah. 
Isn't guessing half of EVE?! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1706
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:38:00 -
[118] - Quote
I do hope Dinny is doing ok. He got very upset over pixels. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Anslo
Scope Works
18537
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:38:00 -
[119] - Quote
Confirming 90% of FCing is guessing welping and dunking.
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Mag's
the united
18009
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:39:00 -
[120] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah.  Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from. You brought up the English argument chap. But I see you edited out the important part, good move sir.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
89
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
[121] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players.
Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate.
I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
526
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
[122] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Kind of sad really.
Would you care to diagnose my mental issue I have Mister Space Doctor? I would really like to know! I mean I do like to shooting spaceships in a spaceship shooting game, that causes no harm in the real life. I mean if I am playing Call of Duty and shoot someone does that make me a bad person as well? If not how is it different? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Mag's
the united
18009
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
[123] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote: Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man.
So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski. We already established you are guessing, it's fine brah.  Isn't guessing half of EVE?! I would tend to agree.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Anslo
Scope Works
18537
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
[124] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah.  Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from. You brought up the English argument chap. But I see you edited out the important part, good move sir. No lie this posted before I saw your counter.
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Anslo
Scope Works
18537
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:41:00 -
[125] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Anslo wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Kind of sad really. Would you care to diagnose my mental issue I have Mister Space Doctor? I would really like to know! I mean I do like to shooting spaceships in a spaceship shooting game, that causes no harm in the real life. I mean if I am playing Call of Duty and shoot someone does that make me a bad person as well? If not how is it different? Depends. I got the degree. Do you have the space bux?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5849
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:42:00 -
[126] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Unfortunately there's no other way to identify and deal with this other than factual. Gloating over other people's suffering & pain is a staple of such conduct. In this case the group is also pretty large so there's some ill-motivated herd mentaility going on. I was actually pretty shocked as the group appears to be pretty tight knit as well considering their clearly abusive behavior. Yes there is. HARDEN THE **** UP. =]I[= |

Mag's
the united
18009
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:44:00 -
[127] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah.  Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from. You brought up the English argument chap. But I see you edited out the important part, good move sir. No lie this posted before I saw your counter. I believe you. No really I do. But so what?
On a side issue. Removing grips from a Suzuki is a *****. They really glue those suckers on the throttle tube. It's like they are wielded.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
526
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:44:00 -
[128] - Quote
Anslo wrote:
Depends. I got the degree. Do you have the space bux?
I can provide you with a permit on the house!
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
527
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:48:00 -
[129] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Unfortunately there's no other way to identify and deal with this other than factual. Gloating over other people's suffering & pain is a staple of such conduct. In this case the group is also pretty large so there's some ill-motivated herd mentaility going on. I was actually pretty shocked as the group appears to be pretty tight knit as well considering their clearly abusive behavior. Yes there is. HARDEN THE **** UP.
I would have to agree completely, I mean it's not like CCP released anything ever about HTFU. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1798
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:51:00 -
[130] - Quote
OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators. Epic Space Cat |
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
334
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:52:00 -
[131] - Quote
Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:52:00 -
[132] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators.
There's a difference between being a content creator and being a jackass. Your post just gave me ebola. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5850
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:53:00 -
[133] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote: Or stated regularly restate things to that effect.
CCP Falcon wrote:It's not a case of not "catering to the tearfilled entitled", it's a case of us staying true to the core of what EVE was built on.
Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.
Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.
While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.
The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.
True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.
The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.
EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.
EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.
EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.
Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.
EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.
Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.
That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.
Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience. =]I[= |

Mag's
the united
18010
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:54:00 -
[134] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators. There's a difference between being a content creator and being a jackass. Your post just gave me ebola. Speaking of being a jackass, good move sir. Nicely played.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:54:00 -
[135] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety.
You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. |

Mag's
the united
18013
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:56:00 -
[136] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Ding ding ding. Yet another winner. You're on a jackass roll. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5853
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:56:00 -
[137] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah =]I[= |

Mag's
the united
18013
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:58:00 -
[138] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah But for the love of god, can we please think about the sociopaths. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 20:58:00 -
[139] - Quote
Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate. I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far.
Thankfully they have abundantly self-documented their gloating/humiliating roleplay for everyone to see and yes let CCP be the judge.
CCP had reserved the right to interpret grey areas as they see fit in the past and as you can see they did it for a reason.
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
530
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:59:00 -
[140] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour.
Real life threats are taking seriously. You seem to have some anger issues. Maybe some yoga and meditation will help you relax and calm down. I mean after all, this is just pixels in a game. Maybe once you can understand this you would purchase a permit.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 21:01:00 -
[141] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah
I can recommend a delicious Bleach MartiniGäó |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5853
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 21:02:00 -
[142] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate. I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far. Thankfully they have abundantly self-documented their gloating/humiliating roleplay for everyone to see and yes let CCP be the judge. CCP had reserved the right to interpret grey areas as they see fit in the past and as you can see they did it for a reason. and of late have been fast and loose with the banhammer in that regard yet code remains...make of that what you will.
=]I[= |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 21:02:00 -
[143] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Real life threats are taking seriously. You seem to have some anger issues. Maybe some yoga and meditation will help you relax and calm down. I mean after all, this is just pixels in a game. Maybe once you can understand this you would purchase a permit.
I recommend eating some improperly prepared Fugu. It may help you with your issues. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 21:03:00 -
[144] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators.
This just shows vividly how twisted these spindoctors are. The claim here is, wait, that miners and mission runners bully CODE. |

Mag's
the united
18013
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:03:00 -
[145] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah I can recommend a delicious Bleach MartiniGäó A mum joke would go nicely with this, but alas the jackass crown is being held by a misspelt Queen.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Mag's
the united
18013
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:04:00 -
[146] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators. This just shows vividly how twisted these spindoctors are. The claim here is, wait, that miners and mission runners bully CODE. I agree, it's an awful state of affairs. Poor CODE. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
334
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:05:00 -
[147] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Did you just suggest I should go kill myself? On the forums? the Code ALWAYS wins |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:05:00 -
[148] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate. I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far. Thankfully they have abundantly self-documented their gloating/humiliating roleplay for everyone to see and yes let CCP be the judge. CCP had reserved the right to interpret grey areas as they see fit in the past and as you can see they did it for a reason. and of late have been fast and loose with the banhammer in that regard yet code remains...make of that what you will.
I'm not sure who's side are you on, if any. Formal logic? |

Mag's
the united
18017
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:07:00 -
[149] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. I agree.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
26
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:07:00 -
[150] - Quote
I should have brought marshmallows to toast... The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth. Sorrowful is the state of humanity, which shall never be free until all share equally in Liberty.
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:07:00 -
[151] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely.
Wasn't asking you. You are convinced that miners bully you, those are some pretty exotic beliefs. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1709
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:09:00 -
[152] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. Wasn't asking you.
Even so, he still got the right answer. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Mag's
the united
18017
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:10:00 -
[153] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. Wasn't asking you. But now you know. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:11:00 -
[154] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. Wasn't asking you. Even so, he still got the right answer.
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2498

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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:11:00 -
[155] - Quote
This thread has been moved to Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Mag's
the united
18017
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:12:00 -
[156] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread. Damn it, you mean to say this is a constructive thread?
Dag nabit. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:14:00 -
[157] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Real life threats are taking seriously. You seem to have some anger issues. Maybe some yoga and meditation will help you relax and calm down. I mean after all, this is just pixels in a game. Maybe once you can understand this you would purchase a permit. I recommend eating some improperly prepared Fugu. It may help you with your issues. You really have some issues regarding threats and dissociation between in-game and in-life. You haven't made a single meaningful contribution to this thread aside from telling people to get bad sushi, get hit by a car, and other thinly veiled threats and personal attacks at other players. When having a discussion one should attempt to at least convey ideas and thoughts as a form of expression rather than what you are doing. I would offer to have you explain your actions and what not on your sheer hostility, but I am sure your response would involve copulation with my mother and physical harm to my body.
Your character picture still has yet to take my earlier recommendation of placing it's head into it's CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909.
Also, there hasn't been a single threat. There have been a lot of recommendations however. I'm sure I can come up with some more even creative ones down the line.
Your troll fu is weak, and your mother smells of elderberries. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2498

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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:15:00 -
[158] - Quote
I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
Please don't cross the line into Real Life... ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1709
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:15:00 -
[159] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
Ah, the old "you're only constructive if you agree with me" defence. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5855
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:15:00 -
[160] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:I'm not sure who's side are you on, if any. Formal logic? Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? I am firmly against calling for banns over hurt feelings and rumour mongering, and I don't take kindly to having an entire demographic tarred as psychologicaly malformed because they play a game in a way it's been famously known for over a decade.
And yes code add content, iv had great fun ****ing with them, check our killboard from last month. =]I[= |
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Mag's
the united
18021
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:19:00 -
[161] - Quote
You see, this is why I don't play Risk any more. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
533
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:19:00 -
[162] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:I'm not sure who's side are you on, if any. Formal logic? Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? I am firmly against calling for banns over hurt feelings and rumour mongering, and I don't take kindly to having an entire demographic tarred as psychologicaly malformed because they play a game in a way it's been famously known for over a decade. And yes code add content, iv had great fun ****ing with them, check our killboard from last month.
Can I get CONCORD banned because they hurt my real life feelings when they shoot at me! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5857
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:21:00 -
[163] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted =]I[= |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:26:00 -
[164] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety.
The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP. |

Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1803
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:27:00 -
[165] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. Wasn't asking you. You are convinced that miners bully you, those are some pretty exotic beliefs.
Miners do bully content creators.
This thread is a living example, calling for CCP to ban CODE leadership, not because they broke any rule, but simply because some miners feelings are hurt. That's bullying by proxy - instead of bullying directly, you take the cowardly approach and try to go through an authority. Shame on you.
I have never seen a CODE member issue a death threat to a miner, but miners regularly use such intimidation tactics against agents of the New Order.
It's not an exotic belief, it's pretty well documented on various blogs. Epic Space Cat |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:29:00 -
[166] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted
The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree but in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
533
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:32:00 -
[167] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content. There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc. You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off. Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
What about my venture killing contest? That was good player added content! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:33:00 -
[168] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. Wasn't asking you. You are convinced that miners bully you, those are some pretty exotic beliefs. Miners do bully content creators. This thread is a living example, calling for CCP to ban CODE leadership, not because they broke any rule, but simply because some miners feelings are hurt. That's bullying by proxy - instead of bullying directly, you take the cowardly approach and try to go through an authority. Shame on you. I have never seen a CODE member issue a death threat to a miner, but miners regularly use such intimidation tactics against agents of the New Order. It's not an exotic belief, it's pretty well documented on various blogs.
Not entirely unexpected given that you gloat over their losses and humiliate them, now is it?
Calling me a coward now is one hell of a spindoctor masterpiece. You get what you had coming for you. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:34:00 -
[169] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK.
So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged?
I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:36:00 -
[170] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged? I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River.
Am i upset? Sounds like you are trying to get me to be upset. Is your true nature showing up clearly now? |
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1804
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:36:00 -
[171] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. Wasn't asking you. You are convinced that miners bully you, those are some pretty exotic beliefs. Miners do bully content creators. This thread is a living example, calling for CCP to ban CODE leadership, not because they broke any rule, but simply because some miners feelings are hurt. That's bullying by proxy - instead of bullying directly, you take the cowardly approach and try to go through an authority. Shame on you. I have never seen a CODE member issue a death threat to a miner, but miners regularly use such intimidation tactics against agents of the New Order. It's not an exotic belief, it's pretty well documented on various blogs. Not entirely unexpected given that you gloat over their losses and humiliate them, now is it? Calling me a coward now is one hell of a spindoctor masterpiece. You get what you had coming for you.
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something? Epic Space Cat |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:39:00 -
[172] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged? I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River. Am i upset? Sounds like you are trying to get me to be upset. Is your true nature showing up clearly now?
Not really, I am still just trying to get you to purchase a permit and become compliant. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:45:00 -
[173] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged? I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River.
Don't you have a bonus room -to get in game banned for eventually- to run? |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:48:00 -
[174] - Quote
ew. why would anybody want to be CHODE. compliant. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:49:00 -
[175] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:49:00 -
[176] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged? I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River. Don't you have a bonus room -to get in game banned for eventually- to run?
Perchance.
Would you like to get on coms? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
334
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:49:00 -
[177] - Quote
Dream Five wrote: The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
This is a game about exploding spaceships. The mails we write after a kill are sent to inform the miners about the rules in the space we claim and why his ship was destroyed. They are usually written in a kind and helpful tone. If you feel humiliated because of that then you have some serious issue and a competitive game like EVE is probably a bit too much for you.
Dream Five wrote: You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
We play a part of the game that was designed that way. We play the game like it was intended to be played, otherwise aggression would not be possible in Highsec. You on the other hand don't play the game, you try to bully CCP into banning fellow players because you dislike what they did to your two Freighters.
You are on a personal vendetta here, don't even try to deny it. And because you suck ingame and you can't have your comeback there, you try to play the "I feel harassed by your eve mail"-card to force CCP's hand. This is probably as low as a gamer can sink, you should be ashamed of yourself. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:52:00 -
[178] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote: The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
This is a game about exploding spaceships. The mails we write after a kill are sent to inform the miners about the rules in the space we claim and why his ship was destroyed. They are usually written in a kind and helpful tone. If you feel humiliated because of that then you have some serious issue and a competitive game like EVE is probably a bit too much for you. Dream Five wrote: You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
We play a part of the game that was designed that way. We play the game like it was intended to be played, otherwise aggression would not be possible in Highsec. You on the other hand don't play the game, you try to bully CCP into banning fellow players because you dislike what they did to your two Freighters. You are on a personal vendetta here, don't even try to deny it. And because you suck ingame and you can't have your comeback there, you try to play the "I feel harassed by your eve mail"-card to force CCP's hand. This is probably as low as a gamer can sink, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Your CHODE mails afterwards are the harassment. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:52:00 -
[179] - Quote
Quote:Quote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:
So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged?
I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River.
Don't you have a bonus room -to get in game banned for eventually- to run? Perchance. Would you like to get on coms?
CCP please take note that this is a standard pattern in CODE's behavior - 1) to anger players 2) to get angry players on comms 3) record their outrage 4) gloat over it and broadcast on blogs/youtube/soundclound
A huge number of precedents of this pattern occurred in the past and you can clearly see now how it goes about. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 21:55:00 -
[180] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote: The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
This is a game about exploding spaceships. The mails we write after a kill are sent to inform the miners about the rules in the space we claim and why his ship was destroyed. They are usually written in a kind and helpful tone. If you feel humiliated because of that then you have some serious issue and a competitive game like EVE is probably a bit too much for you. Dream Five wrote: You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
We play a part of the game that was designed that way. We play the game like it was intended to be played, otherwise aggression would not be possible in Highsec. You on the other hand don't play the game, you try to bully CCP into banning fellow players because you dislike what they did to your two Freighters. You are on a personal vendetta here, don't even try to deny it. And because you suck ingame and you can't have your comeback there, you try to play the "I feel harassed by your eve mail"-card to force CCP's hand. This is probably as low as a gamer can sink, you should be ashamed of yourself.
FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i have more capital than you. I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m.
So F for Fail at spindoctor. |
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Anslo
Scope Works
18542
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:57:00 -
[181] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah.  Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from. You brought up the English argument chap. But I see you edited out the important part, good move sir. No lie this posted before I saw your counter. I believe you. No really I do. But so what? On a side issue. Removing grips from a Suzuki is a bi*ch. They really glue those suckers on the throttle tube. It's like they are wielded.  Don't get me started. A friend had a similar issue. A free ******* beer was not enough thank you.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
334
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:59:00 -
[182] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Your CHODE mails afterwards are the harassment. I guess the fact that you are still able to post on this forums means that suggesting to someone to kill themselves is now regarded as a rather small offence by the ISD. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Aaaarrgg
The Conference Elite CODE.
12
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:01:00 -
[183] - Quote
Thread has got to be a troll ,
sure that's against some forum rule somewhere :).
I remember someone saying they had some popcorn earlier got any left ? im running low |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:01:00 -
[184] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote: <--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted
The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged? I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River. Am i upset? Sounds like you are trying to get me to be upset. Is your true nature showing up clearly now? Not really, I am still just trying to get you to purchase a permit and become compliant.
Excuse me, which part of "don't offer me a permit i don't want it" did you not understand, for the 30th time now? |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:03:00 -
[185] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote: The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
This is a game about exploding spaceships. The mails we write after a kill are sent to inform the miners about the rules in the space we claim and why his ship was destroyed. They are usually written in a kind and helpful tone. If you feel humiliated because of that then you have some serious issue and a competitive game like EVE is probably a bit too much for you. Dream Five wrote: You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
We play a part of the game that was designed that way. We play the game like it was intended to be played, otherwise aggression would not be possible in Highsec. You on the other hand don't play the game, you try to bully CCP into banning fellow players because you dislike what they did to your two Freighters. You are on a personal vendetta here, don't even try to deny it. And because you suck ingame and you can't have your comeback there, you try to play the "I feel harassed by your eve mail"-card to force CCP's hand. This is probably as low as a gamer can sink, you should be ashamed of yourself. FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m. So F for Fail at spindoctor.
Who said we were in it for the ISK? We are in this to promote The Code and ensure compliance. You still are without a permit. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:03:00 -
[186] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Your CHODE mails afterwards are the harassment. I guess the fact that you are still able to post on this forums means that suggesting to someone to kill themselves is now regarded as a rather small offence by the ISD.
Don't you have a Bonus Room to get banned from to be in instead of ship toasting on the forums CHODE.? |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:03:00 -
[187] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote: The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
This is a game about exploding spaceships. The mails we write after a kill are sent to inform the miners about the rules in the space we claim and why his ship was destroyed. They are usually written in a kind and helpful tone. If you feel humiliated because of that then you have some serious issue and a competitive game like EVE is probably a bit too much for you. Dream Five wrote: You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
We play a part of the game that was designed that way. We play the game like it was intended to be played, otherwise aggression would not be possible in Highsec. You on the other hand don't play the game, you try to bully CCP into banning fellow players because you dislike what they did to your two Freighters. You are on a personal vendetta here, don't even try to deny it. And because you suck ingame and you can't have your comeback there, you try to play the "I feel harassed by your eve mail"-card to force CCP's hand. This is probably as low as a gamer can sink, you should be ashamed of yourself. FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m. So F for Fail at spindoctor. Who said we were in it for the ISK? We are in this to promote The Code and ensure compliance. You still are without a permit.
CHODE. |

Mag's
the united
18022
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:04:00 -
[188] - Quote
Aaaarrgg wrote:Thread has got to be a troll ,
sure that's against some forum rule somewhere :).
I remember someone saying they had some popcorn earlier got any left ? im running low Sorry I ate it all. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1806
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:06:00 -
[189] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give.
Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that.
I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said.
You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). Epic Space Cat |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:06:00 -
[190] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote: Says nothing useful at all ever. Just words with no meaning or content.
Really? Are you next going to use the "I know you are but what am I" defense next?
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:07:00 -
[191] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners).
CHODE ALT DETECTED |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:07:00 -
[192] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Aaaarrgg wrote:Thread has got to be a troll ,
sure that's against some forum rule somewhere :).
I remember someone saying they had some popcorn earlier got any left ? im running low Sorry I ate it all. 
We should make some kettle corn and sell it! Think of the ISK! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
335
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:08:00 -
[193] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m.
So F for Fail at spindoctor. Right, you did not want this Freighters anyway.. You just started a thread on the Forums because of it and because you see no other way for payback. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1806
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:08:00 -
[194] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). CHODE ALT DETECTED
Pffft, please. This is my main. Epic Space Cat |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:08:00 -
[195] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). CHODE ALT DETECTED
Proof? I can claim things as well.
I heard that you scammed players and suicide gank in rookie systems. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:09:00 -
[196] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote: Says nothing useful at all ever. Just words with no meaning or content. Really? Are you next going to use the "I know you are but what am I" defense next?
Don't you have some CHODE. permits to squawk about in Jita local? |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:09:00 -
[197] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote:FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m.
So F for Fail at spindoctor. Right, you did not want this Freighters anyway.. You just started a thread on the Forums because of it and because you see no other way for payback.
Their friends in nullsec will come and prevent this from happening because of this unwanted freighter! BTW, how close is this thread to a Bingo? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:10:00 -
[198] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). CHODE ALT DETECTED Pffft, please. This is my main.
CHODE ALT CHOW MEIN DETECTED
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:12:00 -
[199] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote:FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m.
So F for Fail at spindoctor. Right, you did not want this Freighters anyway.. You just started a thread on the Forums because of it and because you see no other way for payback.
Actually i was going to ignore you until i gave another go and closer look to your "content" on minerbumping.com and it became crystal clear and obvious to me what you really are. I had some doubts over basically whether I should HTFU like other person said but you are something different. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:13:00 -
[200] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:HAS NOW REVERTED TO JUST SPOUTING RANDOMNESS USING ALL CAPS AS RESPONSES INSTEAD OF ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE.
Maybe you should calm down and breath for a couple. I feel that with your anger you might break your keyboard. We wouldn't want that to happen and have the amazing content you are adding to this thread to stop.
BTW, would you like to purchase a permit? Or try a chance in my Bonus Room? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1806
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:14:00 -
[201] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:
CHODE ALT CHOW MEIN DETECTED
So you've run out of arguments and are just settling for being obnoxious then? Mmkay. Epic Space Cat |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:14:00 -
[202] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:HAS NOW REVERTED TO JUST SPOUTING RANDOMNESS USING ALL CAPS AS RESPONSES INSTEAD OF ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE.
Maybe you should calm down and breath for a couple. I feel that with your anger you might break your keyboard. We wouldn't want that to happen and have the amazing content you are adding to this thread to stop. BTW, would you like to purchase a permit? Or try a chance in my Bonus Room?
CHODE PERMITS. GETCHER CHODE PERMITS.
CHODE. |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:15:00 -
[203] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:
CHODE ALT CHOW MEIN DETECTED
So you've run out of arguments and are just settling for being obnoxious then? Mmkay.
I haven't been arguing about anything in the first place. Just making some helpful suggestions on things to do, eat and drink.
It's not my fault CHODE. keeps talking about perms. I just had my hair done already anyhow. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:18:00 -
[204] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:
CHODE ALT CHOW MEIN DETECTED
So you've run out of arguments and are just settling for being obnoxious then? Mmkay. I haven't been arguing about anything in the first place. Just making some helpful suggestions on things to do, eat and drink. It's not my fault CHODE. keeps talking about perms. I just had my hair done already anyhow.
ISD sure loved those comments you made as well!
You still have not responded if you would like to participate in a Bonus Room? It is a legitimate source of increasing your ISK. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
335
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:18:00 -
[205] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote:FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m.
So F for Fail at spindoctor. Right, you did not want this Freighters anyway.. You just started a thread on the Forums because of it and because you see no other way for payback. Their friends in nullsec will come and prevent this from happening because of this unwanted freighter! BTW, how close is this thread to a Bingo? I think we are close to a full line by now, probably only a comparison to a certain war criminal missing. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:19:00 -
[206] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners).
As long as you didn't gloat over your kill/humiliate those miners, it's the miner's fault if they told you something that wasn't acceptable. Otherwise I believe it's yours. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:24:00 -
[207] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). As long as you didn't gloat over your kill/humiliate those miners, it's the miner's fault if they told you something that wasn't acceptable. Otherwise I believe it's yours.
So basically anything involving TMC, KBs, or any external site can be thrown into this batch of harassment you have said. I mean it's not our fault that the targets of our enforcement of The Code as so full of angst and response that way. All we do is educate them about The Code, how to purchase a permit, and how to be compliant. What you see is the response they provide after the fact. So just call www.minerbumping.com a form of journalism and reporting, unless you are against news. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:25:00 -
[208] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:
CHODE ALT CHOW MEIN DETECTED
So you've run out of arguments and are just settling for being obnoxious then? Mmkay. I haven't been arguing about anything in the first place. Just making some helpful suggestions on things to do, eat and drink. It's not my fault CHODE. keeps talking about perms. I just had my hair done already anyhow. ISD sure loved those comments you made as well! You still have not responded if you would like to participate in a Bonus Room? It is a legitimate source of increasing your ISK.
I have no idea what the Indiana School for the Deaf has to do about EVE Online.
I don't dig on sausage fests in boner rooms with CHODE.
Also your 'website' is pornographic and CCP should stop allowing references to it in game or the forums. Assaulting minors is a crime in most civilized societies. And a website about 'bumping' minors sounds like child molestation. |

Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1809
|
Posted - 2014.10.18 22:26:00 -
[209] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). As long as you didn't gloat over your kill/humiliate those miners, it's the miner's fault if they told you something that wasn't acceptable. Otherwise I believe it's yours.
Wait, so death threats are a legitimate response to posting KMs?.... Epic Space Cat |

Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
534
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:27:00 -
[210] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:
CHODE ALT CHOW MEIN DETECTED
So you've run out of arguments and are just settling for being obnoxious then? Mmkay. I haven't been arguing about anything in the first place. Just making some helpful suggestions on things to do, eat and drink. It's not my fault CHODE. keeps talking about perms. I just had my hair done already anyhow. ISD sure loved those comments you made as well! You still have not responded if you would like to participate in a Bonus Room? It is a legitimate source of increasing your ISK. I have no idea what the Indiana School for the Deaf has to do about EVE Online. I don't dig on sausage fests in boner rooms with CHODE. Also your 'website' is pornographic and CCP should stop allowing references to it in game or the forums. Assaulting minors is a crime in most civilized societies. And a website about 'bumping' minors sounds like child molestation.
I bet you think you are so witty. Just to let you know, it's not really funny or vaguely amusing. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:27:00 -
[211] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:
And what exactly did I "get" that I had "coming to me"?
Are you saying that I deserved the death threats? Or you saying that I "had it coming", or was "asking for it" when I bumped a miner off his asteroid?
Really now?
Do you believe that women shouldn't dress certain ways, otherwise they're... "asking for" something?
Another F for Fail at a failspindoctor strawman of my original message/intention. You simply get what you give. Uh no, no spin. Rotators gonna rotate but I ain't here to for that. I took what you said at precisely the face value and meaning of what you actually said. You're saying that people playing fully within the game rules are justified in having their lives threatened because "you get what you give" (even though the only people giving the death threats are the miners). As long as you didn't gloat over your kill/humiliate those miners, it's the miner's fault if they told you something that wasn't acceptable. Otherwise I believe it's yours. So basically anything involving TMC, KBs, or any external site can be thrown into this batch of harassment you have said. I mean it's not our fault that the targets of our enforcement of The Code as so full of angst and response that way. All we do is educate them about The Code, how to purchase a permit, and how to be compliant. What you see is the response they provide after the fact. So just call www.minerbumping.com a form of journalism and reporting, unless you are against news.
Like I said it's not the individual occurrences it's the overall pattern and grey area boundaries that CODE chose to so aggressively push that makes CODE damaging to CCP's intellectual property and overall a negative contributor to players experience in EVE online.
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:31:00 -
[212] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote: So you've run out of arguments and are just settling for being obnoxious then? Mmkay.
I haven't been arguing about anything in the first place. Just making some helpful suggestions on things to do, eat and drink.
It's not my fault CHODE. keeps talking about perms. I just had my hair done already anyhow.[/quote]
ISD sure loved those comments you made as well!
You still have not responded if you would like to participate in a Bonus Room? It is a legitimate source of increasing your ISK. [/quote]
I have no idea what the Indiana School for the Deaf has to do about EVE Online.
I don't dig on sausage fests in boner rooms with CHODE.
Also your 'website' is pornographic and CCP should stop allowing references to it in game or the forums. Assaulting minors is a crime in most civilized societies. And a website about 'bumping' minors sounds like child molestation.[/quote]
I bet you think you are so witty. Just to let you know, it's not really funny or vaguely amusing. [/quote]
Truth hurts huh? CHODE. no like. CHODE SAD.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2501

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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:35:00 -
[213] - Quote
I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
223
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:45:00 -
[214] - Quote
The constant out of game attacks on my chosen play style is starting to border on harassment.
Is Ripard still subbed? Between Ignorance and Wisdom |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
535
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:59:00 -
[215] - Quote
John E Normus wrote:The constant out of game attacks on my chosen play style is starting to border on harassment.
Is Ripard still subbed?
No clue about Ripard, but I do agree with the statements regarding how we should be forced to play this game differently than I want. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:02:00 -
[216] - Quote
Also, I just realized that "Erotica 1" is connected to this group. Looks like "Bonus Rounds" continue as highsec ganking/humiliation.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-04-01-was-ccp-right-to-ban-this-eve-online-player
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Mag's
the united
18022
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:05:00 -
[217] - Quote
Does this mean you win Eve?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
535
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:11:00 -
[218] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Does this mean you win Eve?
And you just figured this out? I mean it's not like there hasn't been a HUGE amount of posts/threads/forums/sites about this...
WAY TO GO DETECTIVE! YOU SOLVED THE PUZZLE!
Edit: Just to clarify, this is directed at Dream 5, not Mag. Not that Mag would think this, but because Dream 5 might not. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:30:00 -
[219] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:John E Normus wrote:The constant out of game attacks on my chosen play style is starting to border on harassment.
Is Ripard still subbed? No clue about Ripard, but I do agree with the statements regarding how we should be forced to play this game differently than I want.
If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
535
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:42:00 -
[220] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:John E Normus wrote:The constant out of game attacks on my chosen play style is starting to border on harassment.
Is Ripard still subbed? No clue about Ripard, but I do agree with the statements regarding how we should be forced to play this game differently than I want. If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons.
And it would change mechanics of EVE that have been in place since launch. If you don't like this, maybe you should go try the Hello Kitty MMO. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2168
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:55:00 -
[221] - Quote
There is a CODE thread in my CAOD.
It feels even dirtier than usual now here. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. Phoebe: Remember remember the fourth of november. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
336
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Posted - 2014.10.19 00:26:00 -
[222] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. You are a good example of the real problem EVE has today. Extremely toxic players that can't distinguish real life from a game. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
57
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Posted - 2014.10.19 00:59:00 -
[223] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. You are a good example of the real problem EVE has today. Extremely toxic players that can't distinguish real life from a game.
You CHODE.'s and your dragging people out of game into "Bonus Rooms" with the intent to debase, degrade, troll and humiliate players in this game and then trying to hide behind HTFU are the EXACT problem with this game. 100%.
Your glorious leader Erotica1's ban was a wonderful step in the right direction CCP needed to take to improve EVE for everyone. The next great step would be banning the rest of you CHODE.'s. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
535
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:16:00 -
[224] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. You are a good example of the real problem EVE has today. Extremely toxic players that can't distinguish real life from a game. You CHODE.'s and your dragging people out of game into "Bonus Rooms" with the intent to debase, degrade, troll and humiliate players in this game and then trying to hide behind HTFU are the EXACT problem with this game. 100%. Your glorious leader Erotica1's ban was a wonderful step in the right direction CCP needed to take to improve EVE for everyone. The next great step would be banning the rest of you CHODE.'s.
Someone is still really upset that spaceships get shot at a spaceship shooting game. If you don't want to risk anything, stay docked up. As far as the Bonus Rooms go, they willingly joined. Would you like to participate? It's like Jeopardy but with more fun. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:26:00 -
[225] - Quote
I think at this point this thread is pretty much self-explanatory to any person with even rudimentary common sense. |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
59
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:27:00 -
[226] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. You are a good example of the real problem EVE has today. Extremely toxic players that can't distinguish real life from a game. You CHODE.'s and your dragging people out of game into "Bonus Rooms" with the intent to debase, degrade, troll and humiliate players in this game and then trying to hide behind HTFU are the EXACT problem with this game. 100%. Your glorious leader Erotica1's ban was a wonderful step in the right direction CCP needed to take to improve EVE for everyone. The next great step would be banning the rest of you CHODE.'s. Someone is still really upset that spaceships get shot at a spaceship shooting game. If you don't want to risk anything, stay docked up. As far as the Bonus Rooms go, they willingly joined. Would you like to participate? It's like Jeopardy but with more fun.
Your idea of 'willingly' versus what actually happened is complete garbage. Taking all of someones in game items and then using Extortion to make them go out of game to get them back is NOT willingly. More CHODE.'s need to be banned and starting with you since you are advertising the fact that the bonus room is still going on. Your poor name choice getting removed first, and then trying to defend it when the proper term is "Rectal Canal" is sad and pathetic. And top that off with the bonus room still going on after many people from CHODE. have already been banned for doing such things. You've admitted on this forum that it's still going on. Perhaps CCP should be investigating your participation in the bonus room a little more diligently. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:30:00 -
[227] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. You are a good example of the real problem EVE has today. Extremely toxic players that can't distinguish real life from a game. You CHODE.'s and your dragging people out of game into "Bonus Rooms" with the intent to debase, degrade, troll and humiliate players in this game and then trying to hide behind HTFU are the EXACT problem with this game. 100%. Your glorious leader Erotica1's ban was a wonderful step in the right direction CCP needed to take to improve EVE for everyone. The next great step would be banning the rest of you CHODE.'s. Someone is still really upset that spaceships get shot at a spaceship shooting game. If you don't want to risk anything, stay docked up. As far as the Bonus Rooms go, they willingly joined. Would you like to participate? It's like Jeopardy but with more fun. Your idea of 'willingly' versus what actually happened is complete garbage. Taking all of someones in game items and then using Extortion to make them go out of game to get them back is NOT willingly. More CHODE.'s need to be banned and starting with you since you are advertising the fact that the bonus room is still going on. Your poor name choice getting removed first, and then trying to defend it when the proper term is "Rectal Canal" is sad and pathetic. And top that off with the bonus room still going on after many people from CHODE. have already been banned for doing such things. You've admitted on this forum that it's still going on. Perhaps CCP should be investigating your participation in the bonus room a little more diligently.
Holy **** dude... this is sickening. He did just invite you to the bonus room.
Holy **** i was just scratching the surface. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:40:00 -
[228] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Mag's wrote:Does this mean you win Eve? And you just figured this out? I mean it's not like there hasn't been a HUGE amount of posts/threads/forums/sites about this... WAY TO GO DETECTIVE! YOU SOLVED THE PUZZLE! Edit: Just to clarify, this is directed at Dream 5, not Mag. Not that Mag would think this, but because Dream 5 might not.
You have just in a couple sentences created a super solid ban case against your group that shouldn't really be open to any alternate interpretations by CCP. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
535
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:42:00 -
[229] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Mag's wrote:Does this mean you win Eve? And you just figured this out? I mean it's not like there hasn't been a HUGE amount of posts/threads/forums/sites about this... WAY TO GO DETECTIVE! YOU SOLVED THE PUZZLE! Edit: Just to clarify, this is directed at Dream 5, not Mag. Not that Mag would think this, but because Dream 5 might not. You have just in a couple sentences created a super solid ban case against your group that shouldn't really be open to any alternate interpretations by CCP.
I am sure they already aware...
I mean it's not like this is hidden.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:55:00 -
[230] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Mag's wrote:Does this mean you win Eve? And you just figured this out? I mean it's not like there hasn't been a HUGE amount of posts/threads/forums/sites about this... WAY TO GO DETECTIVE! YOU SOLVED THE PUZZLE! Edit: Just to clarify, this is directed at Dream 5, not Mag. Not that Mag would think this, but because Dream 5 might not. You have just in a couple sentences created a super solid ban case against your group that shouldn't really be open to any alternate interpretations by CCP. I am sure they already aware... I mean it's not like this is hidden.
Yes, I see now crystal clear that you are also proud of it. Wow. Holy jesus this is sickening. |
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
223
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:59:00 -
[231] - Quote
Well Dream Five, we've reached that magical point where even one of us must encourage you to make use of the petition system.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |

Lugia3
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
1330
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:07:00 -
[232] - Quote
 "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
Remove Sov! |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:10:00 -
[233] - Quote
I don't think i need to do anything the community judgement will do what needs to be done. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5864
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:12:00 -
[234] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Yes thank you we already knew you were a brainwashed code supporter. I'm more interested in the opinion of the few other constructive people on this thread.
<--------not a brain washed code supporter , still dissagrees with almost everything you have posted The HTFU argument is not unreasonable given that EVE is designed to be a harsh game (in terms of risk of losses) but there's no way it makes it a better game when players gloat over other's losses. Yeah, you blew up someone elses ship. They "whined". You said HTFU. Some people will disagree by in my book thats OK tbh. This is not what CODE is doing however. Gloating and humiliation and sick spindoctor roleplay and blog about it is not OK. So you are upset that you had been space-teabagged? I have a question for you. Are you Justin Timberlake in real life? Because right now you are Crying Me a River. Am i upset? Sounds like you are trying to get me to be upset. Is your true nature showing up clearly now? you want to get their leadeship banned for nothing more than slagging your corpmates off after nailing two two freighters in uedama in the same day.
dame right shes poking fun at you. =]I[= |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:15:00 -
[235] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
dame right shes poking fun at you.
You are late to this party, the troll train has sailed. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5867
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:18:00 -
[236] - Quote
i was the fifth one here love =]I[= |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:55:00 -
[237] - Quote
Quote: you want to get their leadeship banned for nothing more than slagging your corpmates off after nailing two two freighters in uedama in the same day.
this consists of us laughing our asses off at you.
I certainly didn't expect the first freighter to be ganked but I probably should've, knowing that you already had me on the "red pen list" (slick humiliation disguise btw). The second freighter loss was a tactical move that was designed to a) make you lose more ISK than me b) see what else comes out of your mouths. c) You had a third freighter there ready to be ganked that you chose not to gank after you realized that an economic war is being waged on you that you will eventually lose.
Also thank you for participating in this thread, i feel like a lot of informative and revealing stuff came out today in this thread, not without your help.
I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
536
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:57:00 -
[238] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Quote: you want to get their leadeship banned for nothing more than slagging your corpmates off after nailing two two freighters in uedama in the same day.
this consists of us laughing our asses off at you.
The second freighter loss was a tactical move that was designed to a) make you lose more ISK than me b) see what else comes out of your mouths. c) You had a third freighter there ready to be ganked that you chose not to gank after you realized that an economic war is being waged on you. Also thank you for participating, i feel like a lot of informative and revealing stuff came out today in this thread, not without your help. I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers.
Please be more tactical as well. Empty freighters are so much fun! Next time you come through just give us a heads up so you can assist us with our tactical response. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
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Posted - 2014.10.19 02:59:00 -
[239] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Quote: you want to get their leadeship banned for nothing more than slagging your corpmates off after nailing two two freighters in uedama in the same day.
this consists of us laughing our asses off at you.
The second freighter loss was a tactical move that was designed to a) make you lose more ISK than me b) see what else comes out of your mouths. c) You had a third freighter there ready to be ganked that you chose not to gank after you realized that an economic war is being waged on you. Also thank you for participating, i feel like a lot of informative and revealing stuff came out today in this thread, not without your help. I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers. Please be more tactical as well. Empty freighters are so much fun! Next time you come through just give us a heads up so you can assist us with our tactical response.
Bye bye. |

John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
224
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Posted - 2014.10.19 03:18:00 -
[240] - Quote
To be fair, it was probably their AFK Ark we nuked in Isanamo that started all of this. The 2 AFK Provi's were just logs on the same fire.
As I recall, the Ark took almost an hour to kill. The really cool thing about that gank was the amount of people involved. On one side was one of the finest impromptu gank fleets ever assembled and on the other a scratch group of white knights counter-bumping and shooting at us. It took us 2 attempts to bring it down. Both sides of that epic struggle left with KMs and no one lost a ship except the gankers and the Ark pilot, who couldn't be bothered to check his JF for over an hour.
Dream Five, thank you for allowing your AFK hauling corp to provide such quality content for so many of us in highsec.
Better to go with the petition system, only the most rabid anti-ganker has any sympathy for the level of bad your corp displays every time they are in space with us.
gf Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
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Posted - 2014.10.19 03:30:00 -
[241] - Quote
John E Normus wrote:To be fair, it was probably their AFK Ark we nuked in Isanamo that started all of this. The 2 AFK Provi's were just logs on the same fire.
As I recall, the Ark took almost an hour to kill. The really cool thing about that gank was the amount of people involved. On one side was one of the finest impromptu gank fleets ever assembled and on the other a scratch group of white knights counter-bumping and shooting at us. It took us 2 attempts to bring it down. Both sides of that epic struggle left with KMs and no one lost a ship except the gankers and the Ark pilot, who couldn't be bothered to check his JF for over an hour.
Dream Five, thank you for allowing your AFK hauling corp to provide such quality content for so many of us in highsec.
Better to go with the petition system, only the most rabid anti-ganker has any sympathy for the level of bad your corp displays every time they are in space with us.
gf
I've already stated multiple times abundantly that i don't have a problem with ganking per se and your attempts to redirect the thread at this point are quite pathetic and obvious to everyone. Now go play in the Bonus Room with your buddies. |

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
376
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Posted - 2014.10.19 04:20:00 -
[242] - Quote
We totally have financial interests and obligations. Shareholders must be respected! All high-sec things must die! For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1713
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:08:00 -
[243] - Quote
Dream Five, I notice some important questions have been directed at you in this thread that you've not yet answered. I'm sure, given the speed at which the thread has grown, that you've simply not had time to get to them. Here they are all in one place for you:
Given your repeated diagnosis of "sociopath" in this thread, can we expect to see proof that you're actually a doctor? What is the name of the agent who has contacted you in excess of 20 times to offer you a permit? Why are you complaining about an agent contacting you so many times when you could simply block them? You claim mining permits are a scam. Where is your proof?
I'll also add another - given that you refer to people having a giggle over internet pixels as "sickening", what word do you use to describe RL stuff that really is, such as poverty, famine and genocide? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
536
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:29:00 -
[244] - Quote
I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
62
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:36:00 -
[245] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER!
This thread is dying just like EVE. Good job CHODE. |

Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
765
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:47:00 -
[246] - Quote
Do you even English comprehension?
These people are telling a CODE player to commit IRL suicide... idiot. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |

Mag's
the united
18030
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:47:00 -
[247] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER! This thread is dying just like EVE. Good job CHODE. I doubt this thread will last 11 years worth of dying, but you never know.
Quick question, what is a Carribean Queen? Are you perchance the queen of some testicle mystical bean, from an unknown plant?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Conference Elite CODE.
1079
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:57:00 -
[248] - Quote
Real talk:
Why the hell should we have to endure players spewing hate at us in silence. Why are we not allowed to share our successes, messages from our enemies, and spread propaganda JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GROUP IN EVE. Have you read half of the blogs by low sec pirates, or the editorials on themittani.com? And for doing so, we have people making these ****** thread on the forums asking for every player in our extensive organization to be banned, keeping in mind this is much much larger than just CODE.
I welcome you to come to any system with anti-gankers active and watch local chat. The taunting is mutual. Its not to my tastes, and I understand why it upsets some people, but trash talking is a reality of nearly every competitive activity in the world. Grow up and watch some of CCP's music videos.
-Rhubarb
P.S. Thanks to ISD Ez for moving this to COAD instead of C&P. Its nice to get some recognition as an alliance.
P.P.S. If anyone wants to call this post ganker tears, feel free to do so. I don't particularly appreciate people calling for my or my friend's bannings. Last month was bad enough. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Mag's
the united
18031
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:57:00 -
[249] - Quote
Capt Starfox wrote:Do you even English comprehension? These people are telling a CODE player to commit IRL suicide... idiot. She was actually made aware of this in post 130, but she dismissed it. So this train wreck continued. Because hey, look at all the evidence. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:03:00 -
[250] - Quote
Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions (aka content creation) to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction. |
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
542
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:04:00 -
[251] - Quote
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Real talk: Why the hell should we have to endure players spewing hate at us in silence. Why are we not allowed to share our successes, messages from our enemies, and spread propaganda JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GROUP IN EVE. Have you read half of the blogs by low sec pirates, or the editorials on themittani.com? And for doing so, we have people making these ****** thread on the forums asking for every player in our extensive organization to be banned, keeping in mind this is much much larger than just CODE. I welcome you to come to any system with anti-gankers active and watch local chat. The taunting is mutual. Its not to my tastes, and I understand why it upsets some people, but trash talking is a reality of nearly every competitive activity in the world. Grow up and watch some of CCP's music videos. -Rhubarb P.S. Thanks to ISD Ez for moving this to COAD instead of C&P. Its nice to get some recognition as an alliance. P.P.S. If anyone wants to call this post ganker tears, feel free to do so. I don't particularly appreciate people calling for my or my friend's bannings. Last month was bad enough.
But those websites are not CODE and henceforth they are all good and fun EVE websites that are not directly against loosing 2 freighters and still crying about a long lost JF. (Please say this in a very nasal voice)
Plus I mean it's not like we post death threats on MB.com saying "Hey! I provide a PLEX to the miner who brings me the (literal) head of non permit holder X" while I have been told by a miner that he will literally break into my domicile and shoot me in the head. Hmmm... I really start to wonder if this space therapist is right about who is disturbed or not.
Also HTFU! is a great video, my non-EVE playing wife has it on her play list. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
542
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:05:00 -
[252] - Quote
Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad.
Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
341
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:11:00 -
[253] - Quote
Capt Starfox wrote:Do you even English comprehension? These people are telling a CODE player to commit IRL suicide... idiot. We had a guy doing this in this very thread and she was ok with it, told me I am too sensible when I pointed it out (you can probably still find the posts with eve-search). the Code ALWAYS wins |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
547
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:11:00 -
[254] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad. Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! You just like playing with fire don't ya. You should check the levels of your orbital cortex activity with a local neurologist.
My levels go up to eleven. Should I get a spinal tap? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:12:00 -
[255] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER! This thread is dying just like EVE. Good job CHODE. If by dying you meaning growing as time goes on, then yes I guess you would be correct. I mean philosophically isn't EVERYTHING dying once it has been created? I mean the Earth is dying, I am dying, you are dying, the internet is dying, trees are dying, the universe is dying, galaxies are dying.... You get my point. (I would like to point out to CCP that my dying comments regarding players are the philosophical aspects of everything starts dying once they are born and are in no way a direct threat to the health and well being of another player.) And would you care to discuss in more detail why EVE is dying? Or is just that you wish it was more like Hello Kitty Online so you can just get ISK & PLEX alone without any interaction and fear of someone having interaction with you?
You just went way over your own head kiddo. Stay in your pro (and only pro) domain of EVE spindoctoring where you at least have a slim chance. |

Mag's
the united
18035
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:13:00 -
[256] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad. Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! OMG that fitting.  I now understand the thread, the shame of it all. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
547
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:13:00 -
[257] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:If CCP banned all of CHODE. and removed that style of 'game play' aka 'griefing' from the game entirely it would be missed by exactly no one - with the exception of the mentally deficient, but those people are supposed to be in asylums or prisons. You are a good example of the real problem EVE has today. Extremely toxic players that can't distinguish real life from a game. You CHODE.'s and your dragging people out of game into "Bonus Rooms" with the intent to debase, degrade, troll and humiliate players in this game and then trying to hide behind HTFU are the EXACT problem with this game. 100%. Your glorious leader Erotica1's ban was a wonderful step in the right direction CCP needed to take to improve EVE for everyone. The next great step would be banning the rest of you CHODE.'s. Someone is still really upset that spaceships get shot at a spaceship shooting game. If you don't want to risk anything, stay docked up. As far as the Bonus Rooms go, they willingly joined. Would you like to participate? It's like Jeopardy but with more fun. Your idea of 'willingly' versus what actually happened is complete garbage. Taking all of someones in game items and then using Extortion to make them go out of game to get them back is NOT willingly. More CHODE.'s need to be banned and starting with you since you are advertising the fact that the bonus room is still going on. Your poor name choice getting removed first, and then trying to defend it when the proper term is "Rectal Canal" is sad and pathetic. And top that off with the bonus room still going on after many people from CHODE. have already been banned for doing such things. You've admitted on this forum that it's still going on. Perhaps CCP should be investigating your participation in the bonus room a little more diligently.
I feel harassed personally and in the real life that you have brought up my previously revoked name again. Two can play at you illogical game! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:14:00 -
[258] - Quote
Mag's wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad. Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! OMG that fitting.  I now understand the thread, the shame of it all. 
Your logic is clearly infallible. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
551
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:16:00 -
[259] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad. Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! OMG that fitting.  I now understand the thread, the shame of it all.  Your logic is clearly infallible.
Yet your JF is still dead. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Mag's
the united
18037
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:17:00 -
[260] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad. Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! OMG that fitting.  I now understand the thread, the shame of it all.  Your logic is clearly infallible. At least I have some, bless your heart. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
228
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:18:00 -
[261] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER!
Oh CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909, it's shocking that you don't remember. The pilots of New Order Logistics take pride in every gank we take part in. Each one is like a precious jewel that we study and admire. Maybe one of these days I'll even consider letting you back in our fine corporation.
Just work on the following:
1) Silence on comms 2) Silence on comms 3) Let me cyno your super around 4) Silence on comms 5) 10 million isk 6) Silence on comms
Who loves ya baby? GÖÑ 
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:19:00 -
[262] - Quote
Quote:I feel harassed personally and in the real life that you have brought up my previously revoked name again. Two can play at you illogical game!
Time to lock this thread.. ISD please lock it. CODE succeeded at bringing it down to their level |

Mag's
the united
18037
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:19:00 -
[263] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:OMG that fitting.  I now understand the thread, the shame of it all.  Your logic is clearly infallible. Yet your JF is still dead. Stop with the logic please, it's not required in this thread.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:22:00 -
[264] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote: Please, do continue wrecking CCP's intellectual property value with your remarkably twisted/useless contributions to this thread.
If CCP doesn't root you out they'll deserve the consequences of such inaction.
I think this is what started your space panties being in a pod goo wad. Would you like to purchase a permit now? I asked nicely in local! OMG that fitting.  I now understand the thread, the shame of it all.  Your logic is clearly infallible. Yet your JF is still dead.
Ok that was a month ago, yet you still clearly feel the need to make me feel bad about it by reminding me. Really the only outcome that you produced is that you provided supporting evidence to my point that you enjoy other people's suffering.
Perhaps to make yourself feel really good, even better than you feel now, I suggest that you go over all your ganked victims and send them reminders of your brilliant work.
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Mag's
the united
18037
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:23:00 -
[265] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Quote:I feel harassed personally and in the real life that you have brought up my previously revoked name again. Two can play at you illogical game! Time to lock this thread.. ISD please lock it. CODE succeeded at bringing it down to their level Now you see once again you are mistaken. It was a sub-basement level thread before.
CODE and others, have only succeeded in raising this thread to the ground.
(Yea I know, a little play on words. Sue me) 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
551
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:23:00 -
[266] - Quote
John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER! Oh CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909, it's shocking that you don't remember. The pilots of New Order Logistics take pride in every gank we take part in. Each one is like a precious jewel that we study and admire. Maybe one of these days I'll even consider letting you back in our fine corporation. Just work on the following: 1) Silence on comms 2) Silence on comms 3) Let me cyno your super around 4) Silence on comms 5) 10 million isk 6) Silence on comms Who loves ya baby? GÖÑ 
Will I get bookmarks? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
551
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:24:00 -
[267] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Quote:I feel harassed personally and in the real life that you have brought up my previously revoked name again. Two can play at you illogical game! Time to lock this thread.. ISD please lock it. CODE succeeded at bringing it down to their level
Oh, sorry. Are you willing to admit defeat? i mean after you are the one who stated earlier 'BYE BYE!'
And yet here you are.
Maybe we can have nice discussion about how to make you a compliant high-sec player with the purchase of a permit. Wouldn't that be easier for everyone, and that way ISD doesn't have to get involved. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Mag's
the united
18037
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:25:00 -
[268] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:I love the fact that I got the killing blow on your corps JF without even realizing who you are. God that make this thread SO MUCH BETTER! Oh CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909, it's shocking that you don't remember. The pilots of New Order Logistics take pride in every gank we take part in. Each one is like a precious jewel that we study and admire. Maybe one of these days I'll even consider letting you back in our fine corporation. Just work on the following: 1) Silence on comms 2) Silence on comms 3) Let me cyno your super around 4) Silence on comms 5) 10 million isk 6) Silence on comms Who loves ya baby? GÖÑ  Will I get bookmarks? Yes, but only silent ones would be my guess.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
229
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:29:00 -
[269] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks?
The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later"

Between Ignorance and Wisdom |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:30:00 -
[270] - Quote
John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks? The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later" 
This is my request of no-contact for you. Any subsequent attempt to contact me, respond to any of my forum posts or contact any of my corp characters in game will constitute harassment. |
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Mag's
the united
18038
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:30:00 -
[271] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Mag's wrote:Dream Five wrote:
Time to lock this thread.. ISD please lock it. CODE succeeded at bringing it down to their level
Now you see once again you are mistaken. It was a sub-basement level thread before. CODE and others, have only succeeded in raising this thread to the ground. (Yea I know, a little play on words. Sue me)  I tried a play on words earlier with the eleven & spin tap reference but I think it was a little much. We should stop using allegories, metaphors and any form of allusion when discussing this thread! Maybe just simple retorts then such as: UR, NO U, U MAD BRO etc etc? This is my request of no-contact for you. This means i do not wish to receive any communication from you and any further attempt to contact me will be harassment. NO U
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
553
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:33:00 -
[272] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks? The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later"  This is my request of no-contact for you. Any subsequent attempt to contact me, respond to any of my forum posts or contact any of my corp characters in game will constitute harassment.
What are you even trying to state? I mean in regards to a public forum in a game that we both play and are allowed to post in, you are requesting that anything I respond to you at all.. is... just whatever. Just good luck. Cheerio!
[*] And I look forward for that mining permit transfer soon. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5874
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:34:00 -
[273] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Quote: you want to get their leadeship banned for nothing more than slagging your corpmates off after nailing two two freighters in uedama in the same day.
this consists of us laughing our asses off at you.
I certainly didn't expect the first freighter to be ganked but I probably should've, knowing that you already had me on the "red pen list" (slick humiliation disguise btw). The second freighter loss was a tactical move that was designed to a) make you lose more ISK than me b) see what else comes out of your mouths. c) You had a third freighter there ready to be ganked that you chose not to gank after you realized that an economic war is being waged on you that you will eventually lose. Also thank you for participating in this thread, i feel like a lot of informative and revealing stuff came out today in this thread, not without your help. I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers. this is the equivalent of " nu uah, nu uah, i ment to catch those punches with my face", you put yourself on that list by starting a huge whine thread calling for players to be banned because the call idiots idiots and state that we are all sociopaths for duing violence unto those who would rather not have it done to them in a game about exactly that. =]I[= |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:34:00 -
[274] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks? The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later"  This is my request of no-contact for you. Any subsequent attempt to contact me, respond to any of my forum posts or contact any of my corp characters in game will constitute harassment. What are you even trying to state? I mean in regards to a public forum in a game that we both play and are allowed to post in, you are requesting that anything I respond to you at all.. is... just whatever. Just good luck. Cheerio! And I look forward for that mining permit transfer soon.
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. |

Mag's
the united
18040
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:36:00 -
[275] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks? The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later"  This is my request of no-contact for you. Any subsequent attempt to contact me, respond to any of my forum posts or contact any of my corp characters in game will constitute harassment. What are you even trying to state? I mean in regards to a public forum in a game that we both play and are allowed to post in, you are requesting that anything I respond to you at all.. is... just whatever. Just good luck. Cheerio! And I look forward for that mining permit transfer soon.
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. They are worth their weight in gold tbh. Have you thought about buying one?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
344
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:38:00 -
[276] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Quote:I feel harassed personally and in the real life that you have brought up my previously revoked name again. Two can play at you illogical game! Time to lock this thread.. ISD please lock it. CODE succeeded at bringing it down to their level I think we clearly showed what you really are:
- You endorse RL threats but think ingame spaceship violence and competitive gameplay are bad for the game. - You are extremely butthurt over your multiple Freighter and JF losses. - You rather try to bully CCP into banning us then coming up with an adequate ingame response yourself, you know like a real gamer that has some self-esteem left would.
It's like you think creating fake problems and steering up unrest among the carebears to get a group of players banned is an adequate form of meta-gameplay in EVE. We probably have to thank CCP for that, they set the famous precedent for that and demonstrated that they can get tricked into this kind of response. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:41:00 -
[277] - Quote
Quote:They are worth their weight in gold tbh. Have you thought about buying one?
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment.
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Mag's
the united
18040
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:42:00 -
[278] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Quote:They are worth their weight in gold tbh. Have you thought about buying one? I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I don't sell them, but can forward you to someone who does. They could help with your request to buy one. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:44:00 -
[279] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Dream Five wrote:Quote:They are worth their weight in gold tbh. Have you thought about buying one? I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I don't sell them, but can forward you to someone who does. They could help with your request to buy one. 
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. |

Mag's
the united
18040
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:45:00 -
[280] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:Dream Five wrote:Quote:They are worth their weight in gold tbh. Have you thought about buying one? I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I don't sell them, but can forward you to someone who does. They could help with your request to buy one.  I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I would expect a small fee for such a service, sure. But I don't think that's too unreasonable.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:45:00 -
[281] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks? The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later"  This is my request of no-contact for you. Any subsequent attempt to contact me, respond to any of my forum posts or contact any of my corp characters in game will constitute harassment. What are you even trying to state? I mean in regards to a public forum in a game that we both play and are allowed to post in, you are requesting that anything I respond to you at all.. is... just whatever. Just good luck. Cheerio! And I look forward for that mining permit transfer soon.
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease attempting to cause a player rage while i clearly stated that i consider such attempts harassment. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
431
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 08:46:00 -
[282] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:Dream Five wrote:Quote:They are worth their weight in gold tbh. Have you thought about buying one? I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I don't sell them, but can forward you to someone who does. They could help with your request to buy one.  I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I would expect a small fee for such a service, sure. But I don't think that's too unreasonable.
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. |

Mag's
the united
18045
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:47:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Dream Five wrote:John E Normus wrote:CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Will I get bookmarks? The Magic 8 Ball of CODE. leadership says, "Ask me again later"  This is my request of no-contact for you. Any subsequent attempt to contact me, respond to any of my forum posts or contact any of my corp characters in game will constitute harassment. What are you even trying to state? I mean in regards to a public forum in a game that we both play and are allowed to post in, you are requesting that anything I respond to you at all.. is... just whatever. Just good luck. Cheerio! And I look forward for that mining permit transfer soon.
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease attempting to cause a player rage while i clearly stated that i consider such attempts harassment. *cough* you already did this one. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
348
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:47:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:This is my request of no-contact for you. This means i do not wish to receive any communication from you and any further attempt to contact me or any of my corp characters will constitute harassment. Feel free to use the block button yourself. You know how ridiculous this request is given this is a discussion forum and you started the discussion? If you want to avoid that people communicate with you the forums are the last place you should go too. the Code ALWAYS wins |

Mag's
the united
18045
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:49:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:Dream Five wrote:Mag's wrote:I don't sell them, but can forward you to someone who does. They could help with your request to buy one.  I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. I would expect a small fee for such a service, sure. But I don't think that's too unreasonable. I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease offering me mining permits while i clearly stated that i consider such an offer harassment. Like I said, I don't sell them. So cannot offer you one.
But for a small fee, could forward you to someone who could. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1721
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:53:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote:This is my request of no-contact for you. This means i do not wish to receive any communication from you and any further attempt to contact me or any of my corp characters will constitute harassment. Feel free to use the block button yourself. You know how ridiculous this request is given this is a discussion forum and you started the discussion? If you want to avoid that people communicate with you the forums are the last place you should go too.
Why use the tools available to you when you can whine to CCP for more hand holding? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5878
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:54:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:
I would just like to point out to ISD/forum moderators that this player has clearly multiple times violated my repeated request to cease attempting to cause a player rage while i clearly stated that i consider such attempts harassment.
then stop posting. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."-á-á=]I[= |

Mag's
the united
18046
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:59:00 -
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So we have gone from violencing boats and gloating nasty words and stuff, to hand holding admiral roots tool.
What a great awfully funny thread. 
Oh and D5, just ask me any time for that help. No problem.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1724
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Posted - 2014.10.19 09:04:00 -
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Mag's wrote:So we have gone from violencing boats and gloating nasty words and stuff, to hand holding admiral roots tool.
You bully.  No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Mag's
the united
18047
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Posted - 2014.10.19 09:05:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Mag's wrote:So we have gone from violencing boats and gloating nasty words and stuff, to hand holding admiral roots tool. You bully.  I was reliably informed, you liked it. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5885
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Posted - 2014.10.19 10:01:00 -
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Mag's wrote:admiral root wrote:Mag's wrote:So we have gone from violencing boats and gloating nasty words and stuff, to hand holding admiral roots tool. You bully.  I was reliably informed, you liked it.  guys stop it now or im calling ripard! "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."-á-á=]I[= |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1724
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Posted - 2014.10.19 10:06:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Mag's wrote:admiral root wrote:Mag's wrote:So we have gone from violencing boats and gloating nasty words and stuff, to hand holding admiral roots tool. You bully.  I was reliably informed, you liked it.  guys stop it now or im calling ripard!
Help me, Obi-Teg, you're my only hope. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Mag's
the united
18050
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Posted - 2014.10.19 10:13:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Mag's wrote:admiral root wrote:Mag's wrote:So we have gone from violencing boats and gloating nasty words and stuff, to hand holding admiral roots tool. You bully.  I was reliably informed, you liked it.  guys stop it now or im calling ripard! Help me, Obi-Teg, you're my only hope. Root, I am your father.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Viktor Fel
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:01:00 -
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This thread was a hilarious read. Internet psychologists doing mental gymnastics as point after point in the original argument is taken down faster than a T1 frigate in a coalition fleet when 400 enemy Tengus are on grid. #NCDocked |

Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
200
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:25:00 -
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Dream Five wrote: I already told you repeatedly that I consider repeatedly offering me a permit is harrassment and you disturb me. This is not the 5th the 10th or even 20th violation of my request.
Still no permit? Shame on you! |

Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
200
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:41:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:How would you know, unless that's your alt? Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man. So you're guessing. Gotcha.  No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski.
Only a nerd would use words like brah, breh and broski ...
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5887
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:46:00 -
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Viktor Fel wrote:This thread was a hilarious read. Internet psychologists doing mental gymnastics as point after point in the original argument is taken down faster than a T1 frigate in a coalition fleet when 400 enemy Tengus are on grid. at least i got a nice sig out of it "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."-á-á=]I[= |

Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
200
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:51:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dream Five wrote: The reality is recorded on minerbumping.com. It's 100% full of gloating and sick propaganda. Sounds like you are throwing a challenge hat to CCP as to whether they can distinguish thinly disguised abuse from genuinely positive player added content.
There's no possible way minerbumping can be interpreted as a good contribution to EVE Online. It's repulsive and CCP would never recommend it like other positive contributors to the community such as EVEUni, Chribba's work etc.
This is a game about exploding spaceships. The mails we write after a kill are sent to inform the miners about the rules in the space we claim and why his ship was destroyed. They are usually written in a kind and helpful tone. If you feel humiliated because of that then you have some serious issue and a competitive game like EVE is probably a bit too much for you. Dream Five wrote: You were deliberately walking a tight rope from the get-go and eventually you will fall off.
Not really sure why CCP still tolerates you, such a blatant spit in their face and massive damage to their IP.
We play a part of the game that was designed that way. We play the game like it was intended to be played, otherwise aggression would not be possible in Highsec. You on the other hand don't play the game, you try to bully CCP into banning fellow players because you dislike what they did to your two Freighters. You are on a personal vendetta here, don't even try to deny it. And because you suck ingame and you can't have your comeback there, you try to play the "I feel harassed by your eve mail"-card to force CCP's hand. This is probably as low as a gamer can sink, you should be ashamed of yourself. FWIW you lost more on that last player gank and i (probably) have more capital than you (so i can play this game of trade one platinum insured freighter 200m loss all day long until you are out of ISK). I also ended up with a 2.6b of extra liquid ISK because the freighters were platinum insured and i had spares. In that last gank CODE lost 12-14 T2 fitted brutix and i lost ~200m. So F for Fail at spindoctor.
Sigh ... you really don't get it.
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1847
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Posted - 2014.10.19 12:35:00 -
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I didn't really read the OP (I never read these sorts of OPs anymore) but I took away the following
- Boohoo I got ganked in HiSec.
- -spin- CODE lost more ISK than I did!
- Ban CODE because of some blog?
- Erotica 1, therefore, ban CODE?
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
316

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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:06:00 -
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Removed a rather glaring disrespectful trolling post. Play nice boys and girls. ISD Supogo Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2506

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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:38:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:Time to lock this thread.. ISD please lock it. Thread locked at the request of the OP.
ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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