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Miz Cenuij
Apostles of Insanity
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Posted - 2006.08.18 00:13:00 -
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I have repeatedly petitoned one individual for making RL death threats, the individual still plays eve tho, so what is the use? Today his alliance m8 even posted my corp m8s RL addy in local and claimed he had hired a western union worker to kill him. Petitioning has its uses, when used properly, as above, but do GM's take appropriate actions is another question. After todays threats being a little too close to home though and the lack of any effect from the petitions, my corp mate finaly involved the police, thier station details and crime referance number was then forwarded to CCP. The recent torent of Petitions is because the devs have failed to keep the player base in line thus far, and now we are witnessing the effects. The number and frequancy of petitions will only increase if CCP continue to allow the above kind of behaviour.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Lorth
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.18 00:29:00 -
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I think what the OP is getting at, is people that use the GM's as 'weapons' by pettioning anything that might be even remotely offensive. Not for the reason that the guy finds it offensive, but because he knows it will result in some form of punishment.
I've seen it happen, a fair bit in eve and in other games as well. Player A dies to player B, and then player A petitions some random comment made by player B as some sort of revenge.
Think it doesn't happen? Think again. I can think of 3 examples that I am 100% sure this happened. 3 people in local, the victum, the petitioned guy and myself. I know I didn't petition, he didn't petition him self, so it must be the guy who recently died and has been smacking local for the last 15 min, who found "Stop being stupid" offensive.
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Tetsujin
Caldari The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2006.08.18 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij I have repeatedly petitoned one individual for making RL death threats, the individual still plays eve tho, so what is the use? Today his alliance m8 even posted my corp m8s RL addy in local and claimed he had hired a western union worker to kill him. Petitioning has its uses, when used properly, as above, but do GM's take appropriate actions is another question. After todays threats being a little too close to home though and the lack of any effect from the petitions, my corp mate finaly involved the police, thier station details and crime referance number was then forwarded to CCP. The recent torent of Petitions is because the devs have failed to keep the player base in line thus far, and now we are witnessing the effects. The number and frequancy of petitions will only increase if CCP continue to allow the above kind of behaviour.
There are some crazy people playing this game.
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Ozmodan
Minmatar Storm Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.18 00:59:00 -
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This is a true story in Ultima Online when I was working as a GM there.
A pk guild that was multi server decided that all their kills would be followed announcing after the kill "you have been raped by xxx". They were asked to stop this behavior several times, but nothing changed. Well some ladies took offense to that behavior and threatened to get the games rating changed.
Amazing, the entire guild and all associated accounts were banned overnight.
Developers have to be sensitive to such things. Hence you just cannot do and say whatever you want, there are limits. That being said, people can have bad days and tying up the petition system does no one any good. So, give them a chance when they really step across them line and do it nicely. If they continue then there is probably no resort but to open a petition.
I think too many petitions are opened as an angry reaction. Step back, take a deep breath and think about it.
Learners permit still current |
Freelanc3r
Caldari Xoth Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.18 02:28:00 -
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I would like to thank every good samaritan personally who has reported someone using foul language. There is nothing worse than looking in someone's bio and seeing the word "****" in it. I am so utterly offended by these people that I too find the need to write a lengthy petition on how these people are ruining EVE to the GM's any time I see a rude word used.
I know there are other people with petitions who are trying to get ships back unfairly lost and people who cant play the game because they are stuck but I think you will also agree when someone calls you a "pee pee head" in local that this should take much higher priority.
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Sn4k3 3y3s
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Posted - 2006.08.18 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol i made a sarcastic your mom joke and got petitioned
Same. It was about chuck norris's relation with someones mother. I got silenced for 30 minutes I couldnt smack in oursu local! The Horror!
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Sn4k3 3y3s
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Posted - 2006.08.18 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Avon People who petition to attack someone, rather than because they have been honeslty offended, should be punished.
Avon made a mistake
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Oisin
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.08.18 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Avon People who petition to attack someone, rather than because they have been honeslty offended, should be punished.
Of course, how do the GM's know if offence has been caused?
Because all chat is logged?
That just proves what was said, it doesn't tell if anyone was offended. If nobody was offended, then how can anyone say it caused offence? To be honest, I think that for someone to petition something that doesn't offend them is just making work for the GMs. If it offends you personally, by all means petition it - but please apply the same standard to your corpmates as to your enemies, because if you'd let your mates do it, either it isn't really offending you, or you're just gutless.
Offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder - if it offends someone, it's offensive. If it doesn't offend you, it's not your right to say it is offensive, because you can't read minds.
(Ohnoes, someone will get offended that I used the word gutless! How about vexatious then... or hypocritical?)
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Sir Juri
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2006.08.18 03:12:00 -
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Coalition versus RA "petition war" and vice versa It sux when ppl petition cause they wanna hurt someone tbh. And then we have the old school hall police (today the annoying neighbour) that petitions everything cause someone broke paragraph 105:34, and seems to know the EULA by heart which is scary!
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Willis Drummond
Lordless Unbrella Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.18 03:19:00 -
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This sort of stuff is retarded, annoying and smacks of sour grapes.
Here's the thing, though, it'll never stop. Don't give people things to petition over and you won't be petitioned. Swear, make lewd comments, use any derogatory terms and some insecure little jackass who can't take losing will petition you.
It's really pathetic but just don't give them ammunition.
Awesome Post# 137039 |
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.18 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Down Range
**** you asshat. Eat **** and die.
This upsets you? Don't read it.
Think that works?
Interesting philosophy. One can also make the following argument:
If I wanted to not read your comment because it offended me then I would have to read it in order to classify it as offensive and thus not read it. Hence either way I am forced to read it.
I hereby deem you about as intelligent as the gum that was stuck to my shoe earlier today as I was coming back from work. It was green gum. You are green. ===============================================
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.18 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon I'm offended by my corps name, so I will petition myself
I'm tempted to apply to your corp just out of principle.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.18 04:43:00 -
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While I find the 'GM Dave' blog to be pretty stupid, when people send in moronic petitions that are more of a personal attack it makes me wish the GMs would go 'Dave' on the person.
Unless you get to the ****/***/black panther level of racism, petitioning is a waste of time.
If you petition for in-character slandering of another EVE race, you should be laughed at.
If you petition just because you can, and it's something else stupid, they should beat you with their various bats.
And in a related topic: Has the full-aggro issue for the 1/10 pith complexes been resolved yet? For a 1/10, having to face half a dozen cruisers + various frigs at the end is a bit rough. The 2/10, hell even the 3/10 is easier due to it. Was so damn annoying when the best frig I could fly was a Worm.
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