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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:57:04 -
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Starve a donkey, then wave a carrot at it. Have you forced it to walk towards you, or merely encouraged it? And are you or are you not being cruel?
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:02:56 -
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Donkeys being as strong as they are, the rope might realistically be classified as "encouragement" as well.
But let's not overextend the metaphor here: the point I'm trying to make is that there is no such thing as forcing somebody to do something: There is only "encouraging" them so strongly that the alternatives become more than they are willing to bear. So for the purposes of this conversation, that's what I will intend the word "forced" to mean whenever I use it, okay?
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2014.11.25 00:32:36 -
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You can't force somebody to act at all.
Action implies volition and agency. What you CAN do is narrow the range of possible options they have to only those where acting in a way contrary to your wishes would be very much against their best interests.
It's the difference between encouraging the donkey - whether out of desire for a carrot or aversion to the stick - to move towards you, and physically having an MTAC with a sling pick the beast up and deposit it at your feet. While the end result in both cases is that your physical proximity to the donkey has increased, the critical difference exists that in the former case the donkey elected - after encouragement - to act and move itself, while in the latter case you chose to move the donkey by your own effort.
I would never, for example, willingly stab my sister. If you locked me in some horrific limb-manipulating exoskeleton that then forced my arms to move in such a way that my sister was stabbed, I STILL would not have stabbed her. You see?
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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