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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:04:00 -
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OK, so I know, I fell for it. Stupid sod , thats me, but ultimately too trusting.
However, you should know that NightFang is pretty good at it. Do NOT under any circumstances have anything to do with him.
CCP should think also about scamming tactics and whether they should be allowed to continue, in particular as in this case the Courier Mission scam to sell items. It's my fault, don't bother telling me all again here.
But be warned NightFang WILL scam you.
Lesson learnt :)
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:09:00 -
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Petition filed for your harassment afterwards too :P
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:15:00 -
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"Petition filed for your harassment afterwards too :P"
Thats fine, I've sent an objective no nonsense email to CCP too.
So on the subject Nighty boy, do you deny scamming? Just so that everyone can see your reply old chap.
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:15:00 -
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How exactly did he scam you?
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:18:00 -
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I unfortunately believe he would shove the ship I had bought into the package. Single courier, same station package. With a large multi-million collateral attachment.
Of course, it wasnt the ship I had ordered. There you go, live and learn. I suppose the only amusing thing is that 3-4 corps warned me and I didnt listen...thats my fault...they are all on his arse now anyways so lets see how it goes. Ultimately if hes podded a few times it'll make me smile a bit more over the whole incident! :)
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:23:00 -
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While aquiring the isk to replace your loss, you can start training common sense lvl 1, maybe not a dumb idea to train it all the way up there.
Seriously, this guy is a member of probably the biggest pirate corp atm, how would ANYONE trust him?
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:30:00 -
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Yup, fair comment. But I didn't know that. So I guess I wanted everyone like me to hear about it. I'll continue to spread this message wherever I go concerning EVE of course.
Only way to try and mitigate it going on again. Or at least try and make people aware.
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Ebil Pirate
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:32:00 -
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i trust NightFang
hes a good chap :)
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:33:00 -
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Heh.
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:34:00 -
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Ballistix; yes, I don't deny scamming you. That would only be plain dumb. But as StoreSlem pointed out; I am a member of the prob biggest pirate corp currently existing.
People come after me all the time, you'd be amazed that after a hundred poddings, at least 50% promise to return in a big Titan (Yes, 50% have exclusive access to these since they know the RL CEO of CCP) and 40% tell me that they have sent TTI, EV and Techell after me. Hell, one guy even told me "You just made a mistake, pal! I know TLBC, a pirate corp in this are, and they will pod your ass!" I guess that he didn't notice what my corp ticker said :)
10% take this for the game it is! Cheers to them!
Spam me all you want, it's not an issue for me :P
/Nightfang
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:36:00 -
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Not going to spam you.
I've learnt, as I say. Out of interest you are clearly from the UK given the way you use English context.
Whats yer address? Lets fight this out man to man ? :D
No? Thought not.
It's over for me old chap. Go back to being yer VR pirate, as I said. I've learnt.
Good Luck.
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:42:00 -
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Thanx, Ballistix - keep true to that word and I will retract my part of the petition until you have proven you deserve otherwise. I can understand that everyone who loses 78 million ISK is upset to begin with...
And for your information; no, I am neither english nor american. You don't need to be native to a tongue to ably wield it :)
Anyways, glad you have come to your senses! I'll have you know you are not alone out there among the many victims! :P
C ya!
/Night
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:44:00 -
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Nightfang,
78M isk scam?
As in life, some of the dirtiest things are sooooo good 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:45:00 -
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Heh. Of course, I rebound pretty quickly. I'm getting to like you more already.
Sure I'm angry too, thats just a natural instinct. In fact, pretty much I'm looking forward to being podded by you too at some point.
I wonder if, however , you fit into the typical "type" of player. You ever see the light of day much?
Just a thought :)
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:50:00 -
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This is exactly how players should respond to being scammed. No whining, No quitting, No useless threats. Simply alert the other denizens of eve about the scammer and the scam and move on.
My hats off to you Ballistix, thanks for the heads up, and even though we would pod him on sight anyway due to his affiliation, now we will be sure to keep a special eye out for him.
In addition NightFang, the fact that you are scamming and not using an alt to do it i respect. Scamming with alts and then deleting them i think is an issue that should be addressed. In the RP sense it ruins any chance of retribution on behalf of the scammed. This is exactly how scamming should be done IMO.
What a perfect example of how scamming should be.
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"For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack."
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Breed7
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:54:00 -
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How about that Nightfang you scam someone out of 78mil and your getting a pat on the back.
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:55:00 -
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Thanks Xan.
Well there isn't much else one can do. The stupid thing is I was told not to do it from friends...roflmao...even dafter.
At the end of the day people just need to know about him. It's part of the game I guess. But people still need to know.
Cheers
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:56:00 -
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I wonder if, however , you fit into the typical "type" of player. You ever see the light of day much?
Just a thought :)
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Well, nothing I can say to prove either this or that in this statement.
BUT, consider this. Which is the healthiest player? The one who gets upset for days about losing his virtual ISK? (I am not referring to you in this case, but another one of my victims who I think quit the game). Players who get most upset probably didn't have a good time earning that ISK, hence their hard feelings. And if so, they should consider whether they should be playing at all. Games are supposed to be fun, not about "working towards that pixel battleship".
Me for one would be bugged if I lost lots of money, but nothing more. Being a PvP:er, I had fun earning it - and even if someone scams them off me, I'll have more fun earning it anew.
And in the forums, I am the regular real life kiddo. In game I don't mind being ruthless because it all comes down to that fact; it's a game. Whether having in-game hard times or good times, it's still a game.
Consider that :)
/Night
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Opticon
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:58:00 -
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Well said.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 12/10/2003 12:00:20
I'm not patting him on the back. Scamming is the lowest form of ISK making, especially when you use flawed game mechanics (the courier system) to pull it off.
Embarassing, especially from a well known corporation.
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Games are supposed to be fun
Ironic coming from someone who just ruined someone else's fun for their own gain.
You said yourself you don't value ISK that highly, so why spoil someone's game experience just to gain a little bit? Shameful, really.
Veruna Caseti
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ballistix on 12/10/2003 12:02:50
A game or not. You have principals. Are you saying that you are role-playing?
Surely not. The point is that in order to enjoy obtaining revenue that way is slightly off centre. TBH, I don't want this to get into pro-con debate.
The point is, you took great delight in nicking 78 Million off me, after I had spent some time it getting it together. Whether you say it's right or wrong is down to objective preference.
However, you still hurt me because of the time invested in my getting it in the first place. You were also supercilious after it went on basically throwing sand in my face.
I can do no more than react how I would in RL. The VR / RL debate doesn't cut it with me. If I ever did find out who you were in RL I would belt you. Only because I believe what you did was completely out of order. If I could belt you in EVE I would already. :D
You see, it's easy to act this way behind an alter - ego. Of course it is.
Don't try the Nice boy out here "Little devil" in there concept.
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:00:00 -
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Out of interest Nightfang, how many members of TLBC were banned for using the duping exploit?
Did CCP remove the duped megacyte for the corp hangars as well as the personal hangars?
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:02:00 -
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Nightfang, since you are a rich man now... Show some love for others (read: me) and transfer a bit ISK, so I can buy me a ship and pod some clueless people like Ballistix one is.
I would be very pleased and I would let everyone I pod know, that you supported that action with your ISK.
*watching my wallet in hope*
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 12/10/2003 12:00:20
I'm not patting him on the back. Scamming is the lowest form of ISK making, especially when you use flawed game mechanics (the courier system) to pull it off.
Embarassing, especially from a well known corporation.
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Games are supposed to be fun
Ironic coming from someone who just ruined someone else's fun for their own gain.
You said yourself you don't value ISK that highly, so why spoil someone's game experience just to gain a little bit? Shameful, really.
As far as I'm aware, Veruna, Ballistix hasn't had his fun ruined for very long.
He took it like a man.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:10:00 -
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You got scammed.....you get mad.......WELL GO GET EVEN. Geez its part of the game, at least he's not hiding it from you.
Go show him what your made of.
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:12:00 -
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Ballistix;
I don't claim to be roleplaying. I don't really do that in the "Arrrrr, surrender ye ships" style.
What I mean is this. This game has a few challenges to offer as I see it. I derive great pleasure from PvP fighting as well as scams.
PvP fights because it is taking a risk. You never really know the outcome of the battle, and that is a thrill. I was once target jammed and webbed by a Bestower (don't ask me how they managed to fit all that EW into it, but they did) prior to a BS incursion. That was great fun, but I managed to get out.
The other challenge is scams. You yourself said you almost didn't fall for it, yet you did. Enticing people is fun, especially when you're up to the great nemesis called "reputation".
Hails to EVE for offering both of these challenges! And I will continue to pursue them...
/Night
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Bane Sellante
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:15:00 -
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That sucks Ballistix.
Just to any other people that read this a little bit info.
If you purchase via a courier mission.
ie. The seller packages the item and the collatoral is the asking price.
- Make sure it is one you can complete in the same station.
- Make sure it has at least a couple of days left on the timer.
- Compare the size of the package to what you are expecting.
- Open the package whilst it is in your hanger to see what is in it.
- Don't break the package unless it is exactly what you want.
In theory if you do the above then you won't get scammed.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:17:00 -
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He took it like a man.
Yes, he handled it well, which is all you really can do.
Using cunning, doubletalk and trickery to scam someone is one thing. Using goofed up game mechanics is entirely a different story.
It shows no respect for fellow players, regardless of the "role" you choose to play in the game. We're talking about players here, not characters. Anyone who would show this kind of disregard for someone else's experience in the game is an absolute ass, in game and out. This is just one small step up from exploiting bugs/duping in my book.
Veruna Caseti
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Ballistix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:21:00 -
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Wait a second. I haven't broken the package. I've opened it. I can see that the package is wrapped and its still in my hanger. I have not hit break yet, but I'm still scammed am I not.
The money is still in escrow. But that makes no difference does it? The whole thing is a done deal, even though NightFang hasnt' got the money yet...he will in 22hrs.
So your recommended plan of action against this sadly won't work..
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Bane Sellante
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:23:00 -
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I am guessing that he scammed you buy not haveing the mission finish in the same station? Because there is no way to move a package the size of a battleship between stations still packaged.
If it has a collection and drop of point in the same station then just finish the mission and you will get your money back.
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