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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.21 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Kitty O''Shay on 21/08/2006 01:06:05
 Originally by: Corp. & Alliances Rules
Alt Posts
Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings.
It has been proven that the majority of 'problem' threads and posts are started by alt characters, and as such we are now taking a stance against this.
All alt posts and threads will be deleted without notice.
Post with your main!
Is it time for this rule in the Market forum?
Including the part where NPC corp members can't post.
Edit: formatting.
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Treelox
Amarr
Storm Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.21 01:16:00 -
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I have been hoping for such aswell Kitty, but I was waiting to see how well it worked. It being such a new policy on the Corp & Alliances forums.
Of course it would help too, if the silly little bug with the database didnt cause some players to have the  . My understanding is that it can take months now adays for your portrait to start to show.
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.21 01:37:00 -
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does not equal alt.
NPC corp has a higher probability of being an alt.
Player corps you can war dec/hunt/get member kicked for being stupid/etc.
It's not a perfect solution, but the amount of alt spam trolling had going down by a lot in C&A.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
Including the part where NPC corp members can't post.
I don't even agree with that rule in C&A, but at least it's defensible there. Here ... no. I am my own main. I have one character on this account. I have access to one other account, (but that's my girlfriend's and I only use it when she doesn't want to play.)
Just because I don't currently want to join one side or another doesn't mean that:
a) I am less worthy to invest my money or talk about the market
b) I have any less sense than anyone else
c) I am any less trustworthy than anyone else on this forum
d) All of the above
Hint: The answer is d.
Having said that, I do think that you shouldn't trust anyone who hasn't given you a good enough reason to do so. In the absence of in-game mechanics, "laws" etc., that's really the only thing you can do.
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.21 01:52:00 -
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A two-billion-isk bucanneer than hides in a NPC corp? Spend the million and make a corp, FFS.
I'm sure the CP folks are nice and all, but if you need someone to chat with, there's plenty of social channels to go around. That's got to be better than a random group of people that are in-between corps.
But, it took a lot of alt trolling to get that rule into C&A, and we only see that when there's scam talk around here. So you're safe for a I while, I bet.
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Sir Juri
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 02:50:00 -
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Great idea, should be here asswell. No alt's!
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: Devilish Ledoux on 21/08/2006 04:21:32
Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
A two-billion-isk bucanneer than hides in a NPC corp? Spend the million and make a corp, FFS.
How would that make me more trustworthy? All it would do for me is let me wardec crappy little indy corps (or be wardecced by their big brothers). It wouldn't make any difference here.
If you're trying to gauge trustworthiness on how long someone's been in a corp, what corp they're in, how long they've been playing or any other game-measurable factors, you will not be any more safe than you were before.
If you don't want to trust someone who don't know if you can trust, that's only prudent. No one can make you invest in anything you don't feel comfortable with. If you decide to quietly disregard anything that's said on this forum because you don't know or trust the person making the statement, that's not a bad idea, either. But suggesting hard-and-fast rules against certain kinds of dialogue is silly, unproductive and will ultimately give you a very false sense of security.
The Billionaire Buccaneer (A Blog for the Bored) |
SonOfAGhost
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.08.21 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: SonOfAGhost on 21/08/2006 04:41:45
Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
Originally by: Corp. & Alliances Rules
Alt Posts
Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings.
It has been proven that the majority of 'problem' threads and posts are started by alt characters, and as such we are now taking a stance against this.
All alt posts and threads will be deleted without notice.
Post with your main!
Is it time for this rule in the Market forum?
I don't see why not
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Including the part where NPC corp members can't post.
Why yes officer, as a matter of fact this IS my main...
...and there's plenty of mains in RMS older than I am. I'm sure the same is true of other NPC corps. The over-abundance of drama queens in player corps is a significant part of the reasons some of them stay there. So if 'problem' threads are your concern and the alts are already gone, maybe it's people in player corps that should be banned from posting 
Seriously though, the reason for not letting NPC corp members post in the corp/alliance section is that they don't have a stake in those issues. People can have strong interests in the market no matter what corp they're in. Whether a new-ish player like me or a vet whose corp just disbanded.
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Clementina
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.08.21 04:48:00 -
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It wouldn't work. ISD shouldn't even bother.
People in this forum sneer "Post with your main!" while entrusting billions with an alt.
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Torlack
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Posted - 2006.08.21 05:33:00 -
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At this point, I have absolutly no desire to join a corp. But that shouldn't mean I am any less of a player.
I can see it in C&A, because the subject matter is focused on corps. But here, the subject matter applies just as well to alts and NPC corp members.
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Gaius Sejanus
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.21 06:52:00 -
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Player in player corporations have exactly and precisely zero more accountability than NPC corp members. I've never understood the precise reasoning behind the animosity towards NPC members. Somehow spending 10 minutes training Corporate Management and paying a trivial corporate setup fee/office rental make you respectable. What BS.
I remain in an NPC corporation because I enjoy it more there. EVE Corporations are no different than any of hundreds of guilds/clans/whatever in other games, and I've been there, and they all were horrible. Egomaniac leaders, genital-waving inter- and intra-corporate politicing, except here we also get to deal with taxes...wow, such incentive. I will always remain in an NPC corporation because player corporations have nothing to offer me that even begins to approach their massive and comprehensively awful drawbacks.
Getting rid of alts though, that's a worthy endeavour.
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Azulios
Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2006.08.21 09:59:00 -
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Agreed with OP.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2006.08.21 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
Is it time for this rule in the Market forum?
The market forum is not exclusively for posting about your latest IPO/scam. It is also for talking about trading. New players who wish to make money by trading may come here to ask questions about it. Why should they be forced to join a corp to do so?
By all means ban alts. By all means set up a separate IPO/scam forum. But do we have to go so over the top just because somebody managed to scam lots of ISK from people?
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Pizi
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.21 10:24:00 -
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what gaius said ... couldnt agree more
if you realy think alt and npc corp banning will stop scams then your really clueless
it was the that warned everybody its a scam, while "respected" members like DS were on the defending trip
you can join a respected corp within a month ... just visit the recruitment channel
i for one would trust gaius more then DS for that matter
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.21 10:27:00 -
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It's tricky.
I use my alt (albeit on a second account) as my trading pseudonym. Would he be banned from posting?
It's tricky to 'ban all alts' as some people actually use their spare character slots for role-playing and the like.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.08.21 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 21/08/2006 11:57:32
NPC corp members can post in corp discussion as long as they include their corp, as far as i am aware.
If not, i will just create a corp named altcorp and put a character named Imanaltdealwith it. I will put him on a paid account, and post here. If this althunt gets too crazy, i will donate GTCs for paid accounts to create obvious alts (that dont troll or flame, or post other rubbish like many "respected" players here)
Hatred for alts shows the basic flaw in the mindset of a MMORPG player. NPC standing and corp history - bah, you people never learn anything. This is an OOG forum. many people dont grasp the concept of OOG.
You can create an IC forum for IPOs, but stay away from market discussion.
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HippoKing Impersonator
Caldari
The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.21 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
does not equal alt.
NPC corp has a higher probability of being an alt.
Player corps you can war dec/hunt/get member kicked for being stupid/etc.
It's not a perfect solution, but the amount of alt spam trolling had going down by a lot in C&A.
It is easy to be an alt in a corp.
Look up this alt ingame. If it didn't have such an obvious name, I wouldn't look much like an alt: in an old corp, and been existing a while. Not even a
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.21 12:01:00 -
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How do you rate trade mains?
How do you rate pilots posting without representing their corps?
Sucks that people use their three toons per account for different reasons, neh?
Do you hope to find out who's got this or that valuable production running to sick mercenaries onto them?
You could stick to the corp&alliance forum area if you are offended by 'unidentified alts'.
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PeeWee Pee
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Posted - 2006.08.21 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
Edited by: Kitty O''Shay on 21/08/2006 01:06:05
Originally by: Corp. & Alliances Rules
Alt Posts
Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings.
It has been proven that the majority of 'problem' threads and posts are started by alt characters, and as such we are now taking a stance against this.
All alt posts and threads will be deleted without notice.
Post with your main!
Is it time for this rule in the Market forum?
Including the part where NPC corp members can't post.
Edit: formatting.
use da ferkin escrow
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Takawa
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.08.21 13:26:00 -
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It's a bit lame to call people in starting corps alts isn't it? And lets not even start about taking righs away from us...I like the corp I'm in at the moment. There are people in this corp that have been playing the game for 2-3 years, and they even got their alts in this corporation, because (most) people are very friendly in this corp.
We even have ''corp ops'' like doing some mining with a few older chars and a few newer chars and split the money
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LizAlec
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Posted - 2006.08.21 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
does not equal alt.
NPC corp has a higher probability of being an alt.
Player corps you can war dec/hunt/get member kicked for being stupid/etc.
It's not a perfect solution, but the amount of alt spam trolling had going down by a lot in C&A.
You know, people chirp on and on about how people in NPC corps are cowards as they avoid war decs etc, so I started a corp specifically so they could dec me if they wanted. Not one did. Carebears are ALL mouth and no bottle. So I've gone back to npc corp to avoid paying office fees.
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