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Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.10.29 06:26:12 -
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Video Guide
My latest adventure conisted of me pushing the limits on how much solo isk you could make in C5 space. Naturally solo running sites with a Thanatos (with it's 3000 dps and impressive tank with flux coils). Here are it's stats:
Lvl IV Stats
Lvl V Stats
Note that this is with my skills, not maxed out. You can easily get another 700 dps with Carrier V, Fighters V, ect...
Off-grid shield resistance boosts required (Shield Harmonizing), neither of the other siege boosts effect the capital booster.
It can only run CORE STRONGHOLDS and CORE GARRISONS
Aggro generation is a bit of a pain, I kept sleepers off my drones by killing off all the cruisers and frigs so I didn't have to worry about them.
I consistantly made 550mil/hr but with more optimization and higher skills 650mil/hr seems very plausible.
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Winthorp the Great
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.29 06:26:57 -
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sigh... |
AssassinationsdoneWrong
The Nexus 7's
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Posted - 2014.10.29 08:43:51 -
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Winthorp the Great wrote:sigh...
Post with your main!
The Nexus 7's
What we fall short of in numbers we more than make up for in stupidity
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.10.29 09:15:10 -
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Winthorp the Great wrote:sigh...
WTF, who is this that made the stalker alt? I want to say Jester? But in reality it is prob some buthurt LZHX pilot that can't string a sentence together enough to ever challenge the callouts i do on them.
I am pretty great i will agree with you but if you are going to stalk the **** out of me at least have the decency to get your character a monocle and several sets of designer arms. I feel ashamed even looking at the poor avatar you have created. |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.10.29 09:20:00 -
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Also surprisingly a nice guide Keith, i expect there will be a lot of stupid Thanny kills coming soon. |
okst666
Bad Request
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Posted - 2014.10.29 09:22:19 -
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Video not available :(
[X] < Nail here for new monitor
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Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 09:25:33 -
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Giving carriers access to all those new dronemodules and -skills made them ridiculous and the best rattingships for every purpose, yeah noone saw that coming.
Carrierrebalance 2017. |
Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.10.29 09:28:33 -
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okst666 wrote:
Video not available :(
The music is blocked in some countries :P
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 09:48:46 -
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only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to.
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Hoodie Mafia
Hard Knocks Inc.
Irresponsible Use of Capital.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 10:06:34 -
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Its a fun idea, but if the Siege links are required I feel this is inferior to using the solo dread method. Especially because I doubt you are clearing the site within a single siege cycle
Nevertheless a good find |
Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.10.29 10:12:05 -
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Jack Miton wrote:only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to.
what i've noticed and there is no proof of this:
Cruisers and frigates on grid will push the guardians to shoot your fighters, if you clear them the guardians rarely shoot your fighters,
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Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.10.29 11:32:01 -
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Keith Planck wrote:Jack Miton wrote:only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to. I'm guessing that fighters don't have a big enough sig to pull battleship aggro, however since Sleepers like to coordinate fire on the same target, the cruisers and frigs swap to the fighters, and the battleships follow. So killing the cruisers and frigates will keep the Guardians off your drones.
Fighters will pull guardian aggro even without other smaller sleepers on grid unless its changed since the 1 and only time I solo escalated with a carrier. |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective
Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 12:25:39 -
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Jack Miton wrote:only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to.
Implying people use long points in wormhole tackling?
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MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2014.10.29 13:43:50 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:Jack Miton wrote:only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to. Implying people use long points in wormhole tackling?
If by "people" you mean sleepers, then yes I think that's what he means. The sleepers point you, but you can MJD away from their point range and warp out, amirite?
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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RudinV
Hard Knocks Inc.
Irresponsible Use of Capital.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 13:45:45 -
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nice vid, but Keith, this new avatar...srsly man, just shave it |
Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.10.29 13:51:38 -
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RudinV wrote:nice vid, but Keith, this new avatar...srsly man, just shave it
you don't like my flavor saver brah?
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Andrew Jester
Origin.
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 14:24:42 -
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Winthorp wrote:Winthorp the Great wrote:sigh... WTF, who is this that made the stalker alt? I want to say Jester?
No I can't be ****** to take the effort.
If for some reason you don't have a booster pilot, you can swap a DCU for the link that you need.
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective
Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:46:06 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:Jack Miton wrote:only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to. Implying people use long points in wormhole tackling? If by "people" you mean sleepers, then yes I think that's what he means. The sleepers point you, but you can MJD away from their point range and warp out, amirite?
Right, that is true. If you are not in bastion when suddenly hostiles. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
854
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Posted - 2014.10.29 19:08:14 -
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Hmm wonder if the ecm burst does make enough of a difference with fighters getting aggro? I did it without any ewar/offensive mods on the thanny and was having to rep the fighters a LOT. |
Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:22:23 -
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Rroff wrote:Hmm wonder if the ecm burst does make enough of a difference with fighters getting aggro? I did it without any ewar/offensive mods on the thanny and was having to rep the fighters a LOT.
The ecm burst is to keep the frigs and cruisers off your drones while you kill them at the beginning of the site. Once you've killed all the frigs and cruisers (except the trigger) guardians should rarely swap to the fighters.
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:01:12 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:MooMooDachshundCow wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:Jack Miton wrote:only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to. Implying people use long points in wormhole tackling? If by "people" you mean sleepers, then yes I think that's what he means. The sleepers point you, but you can MJD away from their point range and warp out, amirite? Right, that is true. If you are not in bastion when suddenly hostiles.
if youre not awful at scouting you can get out easily enough. ive done it a couple times now.
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Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:07:21 -
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Anyone else think that this is just a clever ploy to inspire more Thanatos ganks?
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Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:36:47 -
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Incindir Mauser wrote:
Anyone else think that this is just a clever ploy to inspire more Thanatos ganks?
If it was anyone other than Keith maybe. Won't lie I'm a fan of the mini-me archon style paladin. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:56:15 -
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FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.
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Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
855
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Posted - 2014.10.30 00:03:30 -
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Jack Miton wrote:
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.
Have mixed feelings on that - I had a go in a pulsar (with a 4K tank) and even then first bit can get a bit hairy til your thinning out guardians, with the introducing of depots though plenty of ways to refit on the fly - I'd be whacking a couple of omnis in the mids as much as possible personally. |
Zmikund
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 00:49:48 -
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Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ... |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:13:39 -
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Zmikund wrote:Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ...
Random triggers will be a pain on quarantine and cause all kinds of problems with drones/fighters taking damage. |
Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:38:06 -
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Jack Miton wrote:FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.
the 2% increase in tank isn't really worth the extra 200mil
the 6 sleeper guardians do 4146 dps, the first waves of the sites have another 700-800. This means you have 4850 incoming dps. On top of that you've got 216 GJs of neuts hitting you.
You could very well take off one of the boost amps and throw on a cap recharger, but thats the great thing about mobile depots, you don't have to choose just 1 fit \o/
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Keith Planck
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:38:54 -
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Rroff wrote:Zmikund wrote:Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ... Random triggers will be a pain on quarantine and cause all kinds of problems with drones/fighters taking damage.
^ This, also strongholds and garrisons are so much more common you don't really ever need to run quarantines
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Jack Miton
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Posted - 2014.10.30 02:02:04 -
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Keith Planck wrote:Jack Miton wrote:FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank. the 2% increase in tank isn't really worth the extra 200mil the 6 sleeper guardians do 4146 dps, the first waves of the sites have another 700-800. This means you have 4850 incoming dps. On top of that you've got 216 GJs of neuts hitting you. You could very well take off one of the boost amps and throw on a cap recharger, but thats the great thing about mobile depots, you don't have to choose just 1 fit \o/
i realize you go purely off DB numbers and dont actually figure things out yourself when running sites but the actual DPS is not that high.
you can easily permatank the first wave in a standard fit triage archon (out of triage) which has 3400 odd tank.
you can even tank the first 2 waves when escalating for the 5min or so it takes them to swap off you, I have done this many times.
you should be killing BSs before it becomes a problem.
honestly I dont think solo escalating in a carrier is ever worth it, regardless of your fit.
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