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PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2014.10.30 03:28:24 -
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Because being able to shoot corp mates without concord intervention makes no sense? I can't shoot blues and I can't shoot alliance mates w/o concord, so why should corps be any different?
Either pay the war dec fee or lose the aggressing ship to concord. It's not a hard concept. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2014.10.30 03:33:47 -
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Persifonne wrote:They shpuld just make hisec Pvp free then since you can pvp anyone im wh low or null. Keep wardecs and duels. Delete highsec pvp.
Straw man. Removing risk averse awoxing != removing pvp from hisec.
Duel your target.
War dec your target.
Suicide gank your target.
All 3 of those options are known and endorsed. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2014.10.30 03:43:39 -
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Xuixien wrote:
Yeah. Risk should only be added to those psychopathic griefers who enjoy PvP.
Someone call the waaaaambulance, they're taking away my easy kills!
Hop in a catalyst or a nado and pew in hisec to your heart's content you wimp. If you can't do that, then perish. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2014.10.30 03:48:13 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Welcome to the kindler, gentler side of Eve Online.
Plushies Paradise.. here we come!
Yes, all catalysts come with plushy launchers instead of blasters from now on.  |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2014.10.30 03:54:15 -
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Anthar Peva wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Xuixien wrote:
Yeah. Risk should only be added to those psychopathic griefers who enjoy PvP.
Someone call the waaaaambulance, they're taking away my easy kills! Hop in a catalyst or a nado and pew in hisec to your heart's content you wimp. If you can't do that, then perish. Yeah. Because it's so easy to kill a BS in highsec solo if they don't aggress. Now we need groups (CODE. started doing this.) or.. Multiboxing.
Working together in a multiplayer online game? Perish the thought! |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2014.10.30 04:09:11 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
The idea is a bad one, becuase it means corp recruiters get to stop being cautious about who the let into their high sec corp.
Thereby increasing social interaction and player retention. And that's bad because....?
Jenn aSide wrote:
EVE is a game, the fun is in the conflcit and the danger, not in everyone holding hands singing Kuumbya in peace. The game should move towards MORE conflict and danger and ways for people to screw with each other, not away from it.
Yeah, bullshit. Awoxxing isn't about creating conflict, and never has been. Awoxxing was always about the tears.
Jenn aSide wrote:
Notice how EVE was a more robust game (and how CCP was able to tout growing subscription numbers) when the game didn't have all this touchy feely crap like safeties and such?
Bullshit again. Eve was not a more robust game 4 years ago, 3 years ago, 2 years ago, or 1 year ago. The state of eve, as a game, has only improved since then. Sub numbers don't get released because CCP used a bullsh*t conflated metric of eve+dust players in one "universe" to claim 500k, and now stating any number not above 500k would look embarrassing.
Jenn aSide wrote: everyone is encouraged to talk about their feelings while monitoring their rising estrogen levels.
You're right about this bit. But the estrogen in the room is coming from the would be tear-collectors, moaning about having to lose a catalyst to concord every now and then. Pathetic. |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.30 04:45:29 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:*carebear bullshit* It's still a bad idea. Some people don't have the ability to see past their own narrow and self interested perspective (looking at you Potato)
I live and pew in low/null. I don't shoot red crosses for my isk, I trade. Do enlighten me on my "self interest" in this issue, that should be good. |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.30 04:54:10 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:*carebear bullshit* It's still a bad idea. Some people don't have the ability to see past their own narrow and self interested perspective (looking at you Potato) I live and pew in low/null. I don't shoot red crosses for my isk, I trade. Do enlighten me on my "self interest" in this issue, that should be good. I don't know what you do. I don't particularily care. But the fact that you don't understand why this is a bad idea tells me all I need to know. You are letting your prejudice (against awoxxers) augment your ignorance (since you don't live in high sec as you say, you are ignorant here). By your own admission I'm more at risk fom awoxxing than you are, yet even I can see why CCP constantly adding more and more safety to this game is bad (even when it benefits me personally).
Give it a read. I don't often agree with the mittani, but on this he's spot on.
Specifically this bit:
Quote:Once you get out into the wider world, our new players need to join a social group. Except that hisec corporations are skittish about letting 'new players' join because of hisec awoxing: griefers such as my own space-tribe joining a corporation and then murderzoning the membership through a loophole in Concord enforcement - you can join a corp and attack anyone in your own corporation, even in hisec. Here's another sacred cow to slaughter: hisec awoxing is absolutely stupid from a business and retention perspective as it disincentivizes players from reaching out to genuine confused newbies. The dueling mechanic completely removes the 'need' for corp members to shoot one another outside of Concord enforcement.
Awoxxers will be (figuratively) thrown under a bus, for the health of eve as a whole. |
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