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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.10.30 11:43:32 -
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And here we have a fine example of 'seeing what you want to see' in a statement.
Heres the facts - nowhere in that document does it say that AFK cloaking is going to get removed, all it says is that CCP might take a look at the interactions between covert cloaks and covert cynos at some point in the future.
Stop reading something that isnt there into it simply to support your stupid dislikes.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
735
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Posted - 2014.10.30 12:00:39 -
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Almethea wrote:remember the static ice belt? people cant no more 'camp' a belt.
Perhaps but the new ice belts appear as warpable objects on the probe scanner. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2713
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Posted - 2014.10.30 12:11:57 -
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Nobax wrote:Make all local like wormhole local...
Problem solved.
Invent probes to "ping" cloacked ships and hunt them down.
Problem solved differently.
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
131
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Posted - 2014.10.30 12:24:15 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Nobax wrote:Make all local like wormhole local...
Problem solved. Invent probes to "ping" cloacked ships and hunt them down. Problem solved differently.
This has been recommended thousands of times and it's stupid because an active cloaker needs some freedom (on grid). If you are able to get just the possible position by probes you destroy what cloaks are made for: not visible on scan, hide your position in a system. |
Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
131
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Posted - 2014.10.30 12:26:02 -
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To make it more clear. Claiming for probes to find cloakers is like claiming for a 99% resistance because you can't tank the enemies DPS. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
761
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Posted - 2014.10.30 12:41:04 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:
Invent probes to "ping" cloacked ships and hunt them down.
Problem solved differently.
which problem? there isnt any except of whiners not being able to farm in 100% safety. |
Josef Djugashvilis
2634
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Posted - 2014.10.30 13:34:30 -
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I just love the fact that a single cloaked ship can scare the bejasus out of so many tough guys.
This is not a signature.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8809
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Posted - 2014.10.30 14:02:42 -
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Persifonne wrote:Session: Nullsec, Page 61
"CCP Fozzie - We have said in the past that we want there to be more interesting game play there. AFK
cloaking, however, is an entirely social form of power. To me, it is the equivalent of posting on the
forums until someone stops ratting. It has the same physical impact in many ways. ..."
CAREBEAR BUFF #238 of 2014
When they finally make this game like WoW... peeps just gonna go play WoW instead
+1
I never udnerstood all the crying about afk cloakers. It took me 13 seconds to figure out what to do:
[Typhoon, screw U AFKguy]
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Large Micro Jump Drive
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Medium C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Drone Speed Augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Berserker II x3
Valkyrie II x2
Warrior II x1
I lost one ship fit like this to a hot drop over the course of 4-5 years. Then CCP introduced the MJD and it got even safer.
I said this in another thread but i'll say it again to all the anti-afk cloak whiners: Why are you playing a game about thinking if you don't like to think about ways to win/survive? |
Ashlar Maidstone
ImaNicePirate.com
121
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Posted - 2014.10.30 14:25:02 -
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This is by far the most rediculous post I have seen yet to date about something I do myself, and there is no way in hades that Im gonna change in what so ever how I play using this method of gathering intel or whatever. This has become probably the top news story of the century and believe me if I were CCP, I be planning on hiding somewhere much safer than an iceberg.
AFK Cloaking is here to STAY, so get over it..... |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
Naquatech Syndicate
1581
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Posted - 2014.10.30 14:26:16 -
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Crying about AFk cloaking in null, where null should be dangerous... and not for solo play/rating but in groups that would make em a bit safe but not fully.
Why not remove/nerf local in null... it can't be afk cloaked if you dont know it's there
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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R0mparkin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.10.30 14:30:50 -
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negative. learn to eve |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
1883
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:46:54 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:If you want to kill me come fight me, not sit and wait until you can kill me without consequences.
HONORABRU 1V1.
COME FIGHT ME NOW, YOUNG RONIN.
DO NOT DEVISE "STRATEGY" FOR SUCH IS DISHONORABRU.
[u]Epic Space Cat[/u]
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17433
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:52:13 -
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OP is a rabble rouser. Move along people.
Read the minutes for yourselves and youll see what they really said.. not what OP cherrypicked for threadnaught purposes.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:54:40 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:OP is a rabble rouser. Move along people.
Read the minutes for yourselves and youll see what they really said.. not what OP cherrypicked for threadnaught purposes.
Reported for VERBAL ATTAK SLANDER!!!
SEE YOU IN 14DAYS yo |
Gaan Cathal
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
16
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:00:14 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Game design 101. Everything needs a counter. The moment some tactic or mechanic can not be countered, you've broken something.
This has nothing to do with 'get a fleet together and protect yourselves' or 'if 1 cloaker can shut down your system you don't deserve to be there'. Both of those points hold truth in a game like EVE.
But the fact of the matter is that a cloaker can not be engaged until the cloaker himself decides to engage. In other words, a cloaked ship can not be countered in any way. That's bad game design at its core and does need to be fixed in some way.
A cloaked ship also can't impose any ingame action on another ship. The closest they get to having a direct effect while cloaked is reporting of enemy fleet compositions/locations etc. Which is half the point of having a cloak at all.
As soon as a Cloaker is capable of actually doing anything, he is engageable. |
Ten Digits
Verbose Laureate
0
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:00:36 -
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afk cloaking should be removed. or be able probe afks, scan or something.
better yet
no local |
Josef Djugashvilis
2636
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:04:44 -
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[quote=Ten Digits]afk cloaking should be removed. or be able probe afks, scan or something.[/quote
I accept that Eve Online players like to think they are a bit 'smarter' then those who play WoW etc, so tell me good sir, how do you know if a person in a cloaked ship is, in fact afk?
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:06:05 -
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Let me get this strait.
AFK cloaking is bad because null-bears cant leave their pos to do their pve stuffs in null.....priceless. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6991
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:06:21 -
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Rumor Mongering in my GD?
Who'da thunk it.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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somedudeinaship
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:10:11 -
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You do realize that many games like WoW do have very hardcore elite communities as well right? It may be a very different game, and very easy to get into, but it still has its difficult gameplay. Granted yes it was and always will be designed around the casual player and accessibility as well. Eve should never go that way, so I agree in order to prevent that from happening carebears that hate cloaky ships should not get their wish just because they don't like it. |
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
1578
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:10:24 -
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stop posting. seriously. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5593
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:12:59 -
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A removal of local and the ability of all ships to dial in a system to system warp would turn the game into a cauldron of PVP and covert ops.
And to say it'll kill the game is an admission that the game is indeed all about min/max farming and all PVP is not "playing the game" but merely preventing the playing of the game.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
10399
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:26:44 -
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Pure bluster. I would love to know how they think they can remove laying in wait for an opportune moment to strike as a concept.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
651
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:31:15 -
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To paraphrase one dev (because I CBA to find the exact quote): "Show me someone who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I'll show you someone who has no business playing EvE."
The minutes say nothing about removing/nerfing/changing AFK cloaking, only looking at the interaction of cloaks and covert cynos.
I guess you could say, "Ze minutes, zey show nothing"....
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
43
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:33:20 -
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Waahhhh! Mommy I can't carebear in peace! Go beat them up with the nerf bat!
How about no. As others have said, a cloaker can't do anything. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3450
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:34:21 -
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Quote:32. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
Please use the CSM9 minutes thread to provide feedback. Thanks.
Thread closed.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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