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Caesium Amarr Isotope Laboratories Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 16:31:00 - [31] This is good. Hell depending on the box some of the w98/wme users could flip to linux and play. ;p Time to reclaim that partition. Caesium CEO, Isotope Laboratories.
Ozzie Asrail Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 17:08:00 - [32] sweet very cool. Just setup a new pc with archlinux on it. might be worth trying to get my 2nd aco**** going -----
Remedios Sonrisa Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.23 17:26:00 - [33] Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 23/08/2006 17:26:25 Excellent news as I have been wanting to return to Debian exclusively. Question: how long do you subscribe to transgaming? Is a month sufficient to buy the program? Or are most of the cedega users typically multiple-month subscribers? Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Striker IV Gallente Brother in Arms Corp	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:17:00 - [34] darn , my first experiment into suse a week ago ended my windows partition.. ( im sure that was a bug <grin>) gonna have to give it another try by the sound sof this update - Awesome Job CCP Team work is essential... It gives the other team something ELSE to shoot at!
Buxaroo Black Dwarf	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:43:00 - [35] Originally by: Arshes Nei Edited by: Arshes Nei on 23/08/2006 14:35:45 Very very nice, maybe i can now also go back to using 2 eve clients at the same time, under windows i always get a severe fps drop in one of the clients if i use 2. And im talking about 2-5 fps(not slower, total ) in one client while the other client doesnt get slower at all. Try running them both without sound. It does the same thing on mine. I tend to run 3 accounts at one time and it only lags if sound is on one and only on the one that is running the sound. I would love to make the switch to linux again, but I just wanted to make sure that all the things I do under Windows, I can also do under linux. At one point, all I was worried about were wether any games would work under linux. But ever sense I started playing EVE.....well.....99% of my gaming time is spent under EVE. The occasional BF2 fragfest making up that other 1%. But the real reason that I have not made the permanent move to linux is that I worry that the other things I do under windows I won't be able to do. When I last ran linux (Mandrake distro back in 2004), I always had problems playing AVI movies etc. And the other things I do and use are teamspeak and/or ventrilo. Are these supported under linux? I can always run dual-boot if I can but would rather run a clean system where I would not have to reboot just to watch a movie or something. Anyone know about the above issues have been resolved in the last 2 years or so?
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:45:00 - [36] Great,I would hate to loose all you Linux guys/gals.
Sidrew Gallente Circle of Friends	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:48:00 - [37] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Arshes Nei Edited by: Arshes Nei on 23/08/2006 14:35:45 Very very nice, maybe i can now also go back to using 2 eve clients at the same time, under windows i always get a severe fps drop in one of the clients if i use 2. And im talking about 2-5 fps(not slower, total ) in one client while the other client doesnt get slower at all. Try running them both without sound. It does the same thing on mine. I tend to run 3 accounts at one time and it only lags if sound is on one and only on the one that is running the sound. I would love to make the switch to linux again, but I just wanted to make sure that all the things I do under Windows, I can also do under linux. At one point, all I was worried about were wether any games would work under linux. But ever sense I started playing EVE.....well.....99% of my gaming time is spent under EVE. The occasional BF2 fragfest making up that other 1%. But the real reason that I have not made the permanent move to linux is that I worry that the other things I do under windows I won't be able to do. When I last ran linux (Mandrake distro back in 2004), I always had problems playing AVI movies etc. And the other things I do and use are teamspeak and/or ventrilo. Are these supported under linux? I can always run dual-boot if I can but would rather run a clean system where I would not have to reboot just to watch a movie or something. Anyone know about the above issues have been resolved in the last 2 years or so? The short answer... YES. The long answer... well... for your AVI/DVD pleasure there are various applications that handle that quite nicely. I'm rather partial to ye olde "mplayer" .. but there are various apps out there using the "gstreamer" backend that work well enough. Teamspeak has a native client (and server)... Ventrilo has a native server... the client is still under development last I looked. I think the Ventrilo client has been requested for support under Cedega and probably isn't far off. So, brother... come on back to linux... Cheers
Sendari	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:07:00 - [38] http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5068 All Cedega is doing is cleaning up Wine a little and selling it to you. I'm new but I plan on seeing if Wine itself will do everything Cedega is claiming. Much of what you are paying for in Cedega is actually being done over in the Wine world, and they take it and feed very little back. Personally, if Wine is as close as indicated, I'd rather see the community support it instead of Cedega. Happy gaming all. At least things are looking up for Linux Gaming.
Arshes Nei Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: Arshes Nei Edited by: Arshes Nei on 23/08/2006 14:35:45 Very very nice, maybe i can now also go back to using 2 eve clients at the same time, under windows i always get a severe fps drop in one of the clients if i use 2. And im talking about 2-5 fps(not slower, total ) in one client while the other client doesnt get slower at all. Try running them both without sound. It does the same thing on mine. I tend to run 3 accounts at one time and it only lags if sound is on one and only on the one that is running the sound. I would love to make the switch to linux again, but I just wanted to make sure that all the things I do under Windows, I can also do under linux. At one point, all I was worried about were wether any games would work under linux. But ever sense I started playing EVE.....well.....99% of my gaming time is spent under EVE. The occasional BF2 fragfest making up that other 1%. But the real reason that I have not made the permanent move to linux is that I worry that the other things I do under windows I won't be able to do. When I last ran linux (Mandrake distro back in 2004), I always had problems playing AVI movies etc. And the other things I do and use are teamspeak and/or ventrilo. Are these supported under linux? I can always run dual-boot if I can but would rather run a clean system where I would not have to reboot just to watch a movie or something. Anyone know about the above issues have been resolved in the last 2 years or so? Well to be honest i know turning off the sound on both clients helps, but i just hate playing without any sound at all, it kinda makes me very nervous. The sitting at a gate in 0.0 and not hearing the incoming sound of the gate kind of nervous if you know what i mean ^^. About your worries i can reassure you you wont have these kind of problems anymore, i even use the linux mplayer on windows cause i like its ability to play just about everything from quicktime over realmedia to wma and avi. And once you get used to working without a gui its just addicting. For example i doubleclick on a vid, the player immediatly starts playing it . Now you can navigate in the movie with the arrow keys where left and right are ~10 sec steps and up and down are bigger steps. With q you just kill the player immediatly, space pauses it and 9 is lowering the volume while 0 is raising it. F is for fullscreen and you can also access stuff like contrast and brightness with you numberkeys, no more navigating through menues. You can just try the windows version here, so you can check wether your vids will run under a native linux player . P.S. I actually have my video and audio collection under linux, and have to always reboot from playing eve to watch some movies so i kinda have the reverse problem . Oh and to use the mplayer you have to use open with dialoge and give the part to its executable. If you dont like the mplayer its no problem, its just for a easy check if your video collection is playable, there are lots of other videoplayers under linux who are alot closer to the windows stuff.
Zevrik Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:15:00 - [40] Most distros include gmplayer with their mplayer packages, its a nice gui for mplayer. It can also be enabled when compiling from source. -- Commander Zevrik Obikai Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Sidrew Gallente Circle of Friends	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:42:00 - [41] Originally by: Sendari http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5068 All Cedega is doing is cleaning up Wine a little and selling it to you. I'm new but I plan on seeing if Wine itself will do everything Cedega is claiming. Much of what you are paying for in Cedega is actually being done over in the Wine world, and they take it and feed very little back. Personally, if Wine is as close as indicated, I'd rather see the community support it instead of Cedega. Happy gaming all. At least things are looking up for Linux Gaming. While I'm not confirming your assertion... whatever "cleaning up" Transgaming performs allows me to play the game flawlessly under Linux. So... it's worth the $5/month. That's the beauty of open-source... I'm not paying them for their source... I'm paying them for their time and effort "cleaning up" the Wine code. Cheers.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:57:00 - [42] Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 23/08/2006 17:26:25 Excellent news as I have been wanting to return to Debian exclusively. Question: how long do you subscribe to transgaming? Is a month sufficient to buy the program? Or are most of the cedega users typically multiple-month subscribers? I am a multi-month subscriber, and as long as they continue to work on and update things to keep games running (especially on the moving targets like EVE, and other MMO's), I'll keep paying. Its not for the application, or anything philosophical other than continuing a subscription. (When I was a windows user I subscribed to stardock's suite of applications as well.) The short answer is the one time fee will get the latest and current version and allows participation in the forums and access to any/all updates until the subscription lapses. The versions you download you keep. Subscribing allows continual access to updates. Another reason I subscribe is broader gaming support for multi-platforms. While I'm not a Mac user, I applaud and support the CIDER initiative that transgaming is working on for developers to use. Unlike some folks, I'm not an anti-MS type, I just prefer the ability to choose...and transgaming allows this to occur. Wine, the other fork of this does as well, but it is not as focused on the gaming side of the house, while transgaming is. There are people who have philosophical problems with the split between crossover (wine) and cedega, but that is "history" as it were. What is "now" is a very promising move to allow users to have the freedom to choose games without having to choose an operating system on top of the game. To me that is a great thing. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.24 03:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Buxaroo But the real reason that I have not made the permanent move to linux is that I worry that the other things I do under windows I won't be able to do. When I last ran linux (Mandrake distro back in 2004), I always had problems playing AVI movies etc. Generally I find media is the one place where Linux vastly defeats Windows on every scale. Mplayer with the appropriate packages will play basically every video out of the box, with no tweaking. Mencoder can encode any video to pretty much any format: this includes all sorts of things that literally cannot be done under Windows without all sorts of custom scripting. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.24 10:54:00 - [44] Originally by: Sendari http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5068 All Cedega is doing is cleaning up Wine a little and selling it to you. I'm new but I plan on seeing if Wine itself will do everything Cedega is claiming. Much of what you are paying for in Cedega is actually being done over in the Wine world, and they take it and feed very little back. Personally, if Wine is as close as indicated, I'd rather see the community support it instead of Cedega. Happy gaming all. At least things are looking up for Linux Gaming. Sendari, currently wine 0.9.19 will NOT play EVE. It can be jury rigged with some non cvs fixes that will run it, but last report from elfiger indicated that it had serious memory leak problems, as well as issues with portraits and such. Cedega's fork of wine may have been at one time very similar, but they are focused on gaming and gaming only, and thus their version is different than stock wine. Just ran a mordu's headhunter level 4 with a corp mate....flawless performance via cedega/eve. about a bazillion cans when done....and still decent framerate. that was pretty much my acid test for this. DS is completely correct when it comes to multimedia. Although linux distros (for the most part) don't come with commercial or non open source codecs/packages, once these have been added, linux is a supremely efficient multimedia system. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
CB Cyrix GeoTech	Posted - 2006.08.24 11:30:00 - [45] Edited by: CB Cyrix on 24/08/2006 11:35:35 Originally by: Ozzie Asrail sweet very cool. Just setup a new pc with archlinux on it. might be worth trying to get my 2nd aco**** going LOL ArchLinux, I wonder wo have you that idea! <------------- ARch linux has a FULL package database that you look for what you want, say AVIPLAYERFORGEEKS, you load up consol and type: pacman -S AVIPLAYERFORGEEKS pacman = the arch package program -s = download from the servers It downloads it, it installs it, it works. SORTED!
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.24 11:57:00 - [46] Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/08/2006 11:59:20 The answer to the sign up is: Yep. Actually gets you a 3 month sub for 15.00$. You can cancel, but you're good to go for the three months of updates....and considering that KALI is GFX update time as well as a ton of other stuff......updates be "GOOD". --not only for EVE but other rolling 'target' games. MMO's in general need tweaking when run under different OS's as things get changed that break the emulation. I don't play this, but as an example every time WOW gets an update/expansion, cedega has released a point update that fixes it if there is breakage. (WOW is also a supported "officially" title.) ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
CB Cyrix GeoTech	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:10:00 - [47] Originally by: Sevarus James Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/08/2006 11:59:20 The answer to the sign up is: Yep. Actually gets you a 3 month sub for 15.00$. You can cancel, but you're good to go for the three months of updates....and considering that KALI is GFX update time as well as a ton of other stuff......updates be "GOOD". --not only for EVE but other rolling 'target' games. MMO's in general need tweaking when run under different OS's as things get changed that break the emulation. I don't play this, but as an example every time WOW gets an update/expansion, cedega has released a point update that fixes it if there is breakage. (WOW is also a supported "officially" title.) Now if only I could get a verson on the 5.2.5 engine, to see how my linux box runs it. Thats all I need, but I dont wanna sign up without knowing it will work ok. Anyone got the local update to share? Just for a test etc?
CB Cyrix GeoTech	Posted - 2006.09.01 12:02:00 - [48] Im supprised that noone has commented on this yet... you guys are slacking!

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