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Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.28 14:57:00 - [1] Edited by: Bhaal on 28/08/2006 14:57:35 CCP already responded... Kerion said the queues came in with Dragon, and were not supposed to be "active" for TQ... Problem with that is he also said if they are needed in the future, they are already coded in... I simply do not understand how they can think queues can work, when you already have ppl exploiting them and setting up camps at gates where the queues are in effect... What a mess... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.28 16:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Mage372 Where are you CCP? Valid points have been raised about serious flaws in this new 'feature', without any attempt to answer despite the fact you cannot help but notice the giant thead on your main forum page. Yes Keiron said it was 'unintented' - yet it hasnt been removed. Also no promises that it won't be used in the future. The attrocity that is jump queueing should become a part of EVE history, quickly and permanently. If server is struggling with the load, then you should use our subscription money to buy new hardware (as opposed to setting up a huge new cluster in China which doesnt benefit the people who paid for it), rather than nerfing our game in most idiotic ways. This will not go away unless you answer your paying customers, who deserve better than this. When you do answer, you should also make a point of justifying your conspicuous silence on the issue. Perhaps the truth is going to be even more unpopular than the silence, that is the usual conclusion people will draw from behaviour such as this. Come on oveur, be a man about this and give the people what they deserve: a proper explaination at the very least. Maybe they can't face the facts that sharding is going to be a requirement... If the coding and server hardware is not available, maybe the queue system is all they have right now to keep them from having to shard EVE... The Chinese players might not have a problem with queues, as they will start the game with them. But after 3 years of playing this game, queues is an absolute game breaker for TQ... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.28 16:42:00 - [3] Originally by: Chewan Mesa Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 28/08/2006 16:33:55 The day EVE shards is the day a lot of people will leave from a until then unique game and world... I'd be curious on why it takes so long for any kind of response atm, I didnt even see an update on when the new patch will be deployed, other than "After the weekend". Well, EVE is unique in that aspect yes, but it's a niche game... How many niche games have 29k simultaneous players and no sharding? Gee, uhm, only one... What if it's just not possible to have EVE non-sharded? What if CCP has reached the limits of both stackless python coding and yardware? Maybe CCP should consider sharding the game via region (or groups of regions), and not make multiple universes. (Your HQ is your home shard, when you jump to another one, the only data the other shard has concerning you is your current ship & mods, and clone location info...) It would suck to have to relog into the game when jumping from one region to another, but maybe that might be the only solution making mutiple EVE universes... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.28 16:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Bhaal on 28/08/2006 16:59:21 Originally by: Father Weebles u ppl are nubs all i do is spam jump and in a couple of seconds i jump through Couple of seconds can get you popped... ppl are, and will be losing ships to this bogus queue, it's a reality... Fact of the matter is, if you are within jump range of a gate, and you do not have aggression timer, you either need to jump, or go into invulnerable cloak... None of this waiting to get shot at BS... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.28 19:13:00 - [5] Originally by: Orosinii I am assuming this queue madness is an error. CCP respond now, you cannot be too busy to respond if the petition system is not working. I call for a back-out of DRAGON code until acceptable testing has taken place. Lets get this game playable again. Because on a Bank Holiday week-end in the UK the ganme has been destroyed for all players alike. Respond please The login Q and the system Q are both intended features for the Chinese server. This tells me once TQ reaches a point where the Q's are needed, we'll have to deal with them... I don't think we are at that point yet, so next patch I imagine the system Q will be turned off, but not the login Q... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 10:47:00 - [6] Originally by: Euterpe Ithairegolis Does anyone have any information about serenity (chinese cluster), like do we know when queueing was introduced there if not from the launch. My point is, this queueing thing might be one of the core features of the new load balancing mechanisms we heard of before Dragon was released, in which case CCP knew and kind of screwed us when bringing it live on TQ ... It's been said over and over, this is absolutely breaking the gameplay. Pretty sure Kerion said the queues were part of the Dragon code, which Serenity uses... I guess they figure if it's good enough for the Chinese, it's good enough for TQ, the players who have played the game for 3 years, and paid the bills for CCP as a company to progress this far. The no sharding insistence may have caught up with them here... Even with all the hardware optimizations, has the lag gotten any better since the early days of 100 vs. 100 fleet battles? All the things CP plans to add to this game, player housing, planetary flight, etc... You think this will create more or less lag? Along with an exploding playerbase... 50k simultaneous next year at this time? I hope they have some magic up their sleeves... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 13:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Bhaal Pretty sure Kerion said the queues were part of the Dragon code, which Serenity uses... I guess they figure if it's good enough for the Chinese, it's good enough for TQ, the players who have played the game for 3 years, and paid the bills for CCP as a company to progress this far. We actually agree on something Bhaal, only can describe me atm . Just a coincidence, I assure you ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 13:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Loyal Servant NOPE! I got on briefly this morning, went to a gate and was queued. nobody in the system next door, either. Now, it did not say that 'traffic control was offline' it said i was #1 in queue for like 2 minutes 44 seconds or some junk like that. I have already been ganked once at a gate, and will file my petition. Whether or not I get the ship back, I have no idea. What a disaster, think of all the petitions because of this... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 13:55:00 - [9] Edited by: Bhaal on 29/08/2006 14:04:43 Originally by: Loyal Servant If this was being handled I would forget about the petition. I simply would not bother with it.... Since they wont do anything about the queues, I feel justified in causing them pain and filing my petition. I'm not sure how much pain you're causing though... Maybe they will just ignore all the reimbursement petitions that have the word queue in them... I think CCP "accidentally" slipped the queue code onto TQ to test it's validility... What better way to test the ramifications? I hope their test is over soon... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero

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