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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
446
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:09:26 -
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I totally want you to lose isk so you can sell me more plex. (Which I will buy with isk that I took from you.)
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
New Order Diplomat, contact me for all your New Order enquiries!
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vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:13:30 -
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Persifonne wrote:vegetuh wrote:Persifonne wrote:And actually looking at your dumb tankless ship ONE OF THOSE CATAS COULD HAVE GANKED YOU IN THE .5 LOL. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? ANY BETTER VEGITABLE IDOT UGLY LOSER. 1! My biggest issue what I have been saying is that people can go around killing people in high sec with no consequence, I saw it happen. They ran around high sec for 3 hours killing people and there was nothing I can do because they were either docked or warping around. DUDE YA SAW EM FOR 3HRS GANKIN AND WARPINF AROUND ANS YOU THOUGHT TO UR DUMBSELF. HMM IMA JUST KEEP MINGING HERE IN MY UNTANKED MACK IN A .5..... ARE YOU THAT DUMB? LIKE SERIOUS DUDE SERIOSU WTf did you Think was gonna happen?
I didn't know there was gankers in the sytem, only after they killed me did I know. After that I spent 3 hours trying to catch them but they were in destroys that could out run me. There was nothing I could do to stop them, even more stupid is the kill right I made open. But they would activate it just before ganking someone else and after concord kills them it is used up. |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
386
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:18:18 -
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Just my honest thought, I think half (or more) of the problem is that many view that ganks are something that are possible due to poor game design...that it shouldn't be possible, just is because CCP "can't or won't fix them".
The fact that plenty of "carebears" will tell you that ganking is not a problem should tell you guys something. Again, just saying. |

Spazzy Fit
New Order Logistics CODE.
2
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:18:53 -
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Skydell wrote:Spazzy Fit wrote:This of course could easily be avoidable with a very affordable mining permit!
Minerbumping bingo card at the ready, two ticked off already. Please continue. I've mined over 1.5 million M3 this week, don't have one of your fruity little mining permits. feel free to eatshit and die. Avoiding this involves staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K. I mine to make AF's and Pilgrims because unlike you, I have the balls to step in to null sec.
Oh bless you, you really don't know much do you. Most code pilots are acts of null sec players. Including me.
Oh and thanks for ticking another box on my bingo card! |

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
446
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:28:14 -
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We are just making corrections to the risk and reward in high-sec, with our guns.
Leave it to the CSM to lobby like gentlemen.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
New Order Diplomat, contact me for all your New Order enquiries!
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PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS.
2482
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:32:31 -
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baltec1 wrote:Persifonne wrote:And actually looking at your dumb tankless ship ONE OF THOSE CATAS COULD HAVE GANKED YOU IN THE .5 LOL. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? ANY BETTER VEGITABLE IDOT UGLY LOSER. 1! This is a good way to get yourself a forum ban. Shhhhhhh. Just watch the train wreck unfold. |

Sakaron Hefdover
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:41:53 -
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Don't mine within 5 Jumps of Jita, find some overly long to reach backwater and Set CODE to red, if They are about, fly in a tanked procurer.
Now, Can I have your stuff? |

Josef Djugashvilis
2639
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:46:07 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:vegetuh wrote:I'm closing my accounts for good, High sec ganking Is way to out of control. Iv seen capital ships fall In high sec, I just lost a mining ship to 3 ships. It's BS, I'm not saying it shouldn't be impossible In high sec. But It should be harder, with much higher consequences then a 15 minute time out. And I know why CCP does little to nothing about it's because CCP wants people to loose isk, it keeps people buying PLEX's and keep the market flowing. But this @#$t is unreasonable, Iv seen a gang of 3 people kill 4 people an hour for 3 hours in high sec. As a miner loosing a tech 2 is ALOT of hours down the tube making isk to buy the ship, sh#$ happens i know that. But a group like that and the only worry they have a 15 minute time out @#$ing please. Iv been playing for 4 years and have 2 accounts, but seems recently high sec ganking really picked up. The pirate has little to no risk attacking someone who is just trying to move high value items they worked hours on in to get or make. With CCP saying your sol, yea people that lost their butt off are SOL because you designed the system. I can feel the trolls coming out from under neath their rocks ready to post, and I'm sure people that high sec gank are ready to respond to because they are the ones getting everything from people that play hard to actually make isk in the game while getting crapped on by CCP. It would understand if people that died by pirates were in low sec or null sec they know the risk. CCP favors pirates, the thought of making isk easy with low risk makes it more interesting right.. sorry to hear that buddy. yes gankers a scourge, hopefully CCP will clear them out of high sec in due time if enough people follow through and leave because of it. ganking and most other forms of PvP belong in low, null and wormholes i feel.
Lady, your post is trolling of the lowest order, just stop it.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2639
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:49:23 -
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Spazzy Fit wrote:This of course could easily be avoidable with a very affordable mining permit!
Minerbumping bingo card at the ready, two ticked off already. Please continue.
I cannot see a post by the fearsome CODE without thinking of this song and their heroic performance in the AT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEPx9bkpkh8
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1591
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:51:22 -
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I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it.
Skydell wrote:staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K. Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner.
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Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
47
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:52:53 -
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I can not believe a 4 year old player to be this naive. Therefore, OP is definitely a troll in my eyes.
For those of you who are actually falling victim to similar situations as the OP described, I can tell you that you're being lazy and need to do some homework. Right now, Kernite and Plagioclase are #3 and #4, respectively, on the ISK/hour chart for mining.
You can find Kernite in 0.7(or lower) security systems and you can find Plagioclase in 0.9(or lower) security systems.
Concord response time for 0.7 security system: Roughly 10 seconds
Concord response time for 0.9 security system: Roughly 6 seconds
Stop going to 0.5 security systems, which have an 18 second concord response time, to mine and the problem is solved.
I don't even mine and I know this... |

vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:05:59 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it. Skydell wrote:staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K. Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner.
You see me crying about this?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/41341243/
No, it was a good kill I knew the risk of flying in low sec. I know the game, Its full of risk and playing smart. But people doing what ever they want to who ever they want as long as they want in high sec I wont accept. AGAIN, I am not saying it should be impossible. but there should be a much higher consequence for doing it. They randomly killed me with a 10 mil ship to kill me and do that for hours on in. But if there was a much higher consequence they would have to choose their targets alot more carefully. Its not fair to players who play hard to make isk to have some douch in a 10 mil ship blow them up hoping to get rich off of their work with no consequence in high sec. |

McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
16
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:16:29 -
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vegetuh wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it. Skydell wrote:staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K. Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner. You see me crying about this? https://zkillboard.com/kill/41341243/
No, it was a good kill I knew the risk of flying in low sec. I know the game, Its full of risk and playing smart. But people doing what ever they want to who ever they want as long as they want in high sec I wont accept. AGAIN, I am not saying it should be impossible. but there should be a much higher consequence for doing it. They randomly killed me with a 10 mil ship to kill me and do that for hours on in. But if there was a much higher consequence they would have to choose their targets alot more carefully. Its not fair to players who play hard to make isk to have some douch in a 10 mil ship blow them up hoping to get rich off of their work with no consequence in high sec. We already do pick our targets carefully. That's why we picked you. 
It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
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Paranoid Loyd
2477
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:17:46 -
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Yarr 
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:21:50 -
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:vegetuh wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it. Skydell wrote:staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K. Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner. You see me crying about this? https://zkillboard.com/kill/41341243/
No, it was a good kill I knew the risk of flying in low sec. I know the game, Its full of risk and playing smart. But people doing what ever they want to who ever they want as long as they want in high sec I wont accept. AGAIN, I am not saying it should be impossible. but there should be a much higher consequence for doing it. They randomly killed me with a 10 mil ship to kill me and do that for hours on in. But if there was a much higher consequence they would have to choose their targets alot more carefully. Its not fair to players who play hard to make isk to have some douch in a 10 mil ship blow them up hoping to get rich off of their work with no consequence in high sec. We already do pick our targets carefully. That's why we picked you.  It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
Thats why they picked me, cause they were going to loose more then they gained?? makes no sense.
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vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:23:51 -
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It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
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Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me. |

Lister Dax
Intergalactic Trade and Harm
11
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:27:47 -
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vegetuh wrote:I As a miner loosing a tech 2 is ALOT of hours down the tube making isk to buy the ship,
Tank mods, use them.....
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
1995
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:28:37 -
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vegetuh wrote:
It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
You got ganked. You have two options:
A) take action to avoid getting ganked
B) suggest that CCP take action to nerf ganking
Why, for god's sake, did you choose option B), when option A) is so damn easy?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
242
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:34:34 -
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Poor baby, heres a tissue - T2 Tissue |

vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:42:55 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:vegetuh wrote:
It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
You got ganked. You have two options: A) take action to avoid getting ganked B) suggest that CCP take action to nerf ganking Why, for god's sake, did you choose option B), when option A) is so damn easy?
I'v already explained this like 10 times, I'm not saying remove it. It should be possible to gank in high sec, but it should not be acceptible for a person to go around killing people in high sec all day every day with no consequence. Like this person,
https://zkillboard.com/character/94401447/
The only consequence is he wastes 10 mil, so he can go around killing all day randomly In hopes he can wipe out anothers person's hard work to get rich. Killing in null sec, low sec and high sec if you are precise should be acceptable. But going around killing all day with disregard for other players cause your not risking anything to me isn't acceptable. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17481
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:44:51 -
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Such op.
Many tears.
Very lol.
Much stuffs.
I can haz?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13749
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:45:44 -
[52] - Quote
vegetuh wrote:
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
Again I ask you, do you even know what punishments are given out for ganking or the risks involved?
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:49:28 -
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baltec1 wrote:vegetuh wrote:
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
Again I ask you, do you even know what punishments are given out for ganking or the risks involved?
What a kill right, what a joke like I already said they just had a friend activate before ganking someone else so when concord killed them it took away the kill right. And a lower security status, ouch sure he feels that one. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
1995
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:53:06 -
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vegetuh wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:vegetuh wrote:
It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
You got ganked. You have two options: A) take action to avoid getting ganked B) suggest that CCP take action to nerf ganking Why, for god's sake, did you choose option B), when option A) is so damn easy? I'v already explained this like 10 times, I'm not saying remove it. It should be possible to gank in high sec, but it should not be acceptible for a person to go around killing people in high sec all day every day with no consequence. Like this person, https://zkillboard.com/character/94401447/
The only consequence is he wastes 10 mil, so he can go around killing all day randomly In hopes he can wipe out anothers person's hard work to get rich. Killing in null sec, low sec and high sec if you are precise should be acceptable. But going around killing all day with disregard for other players cause your not risking anything to me isn't acceptable. Why?
Anyone that takes a few basic steps to protect him/herself will NOT get killed.
Why do you think it's unacceptable that untanked, afk ships get ganked? It's like lvl 4 missions: if you try to do them afk and in a frigate, you'll get killed. By NPCs instead of players, but the principle is the same: if you don't pay attention and use the correct ship/fit for the job, you will probably get killed. What's wrong with that?
Also, why do you care about the gankers' cost, risk, etc. since it's so easy to avoid them? If you think ganking is such a risk-free ISK-making activity, why don't you try it yourself?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13752
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:02:51 -
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vegetuh wrote:baltec1 wrote:vegetuh wrote:
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
Again I ask you, do you even know what punishments are given out for ganking or the risks involved? What a kill right, what a joke like I already said they just had a friend activate before ganking someone else so when concord killed them it took away the kill right. And a lower security status, ouch sure he feels that one.
They lose their ship They get a kill right on them Drop in sec status Past a point, they are open to attack from everyone Past a point faction police attack 15 minutes timer where concord will blow them up if the enter space in any ship 50% chance the loot will not drop per item Their ship is ironically profitable to gank
To name but a few. It is the single most punished activity in the game.
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vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:05:18 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:vegetuh wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:vegetuh wrote:
It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
You got ganked. You have two options: A) take action to avoid getting ganked B) suggest that CCP take action to nerf ganking Why, for god's sake, did you choose option B), when option A) is so damn easy? I'v already explained this like 10 times, I'm not saying remove it. It should be possible to gank in high sec, but it should not be acceptible for a person to go around killing people in high sec all day every day with no consequence. Like this person, https://zkillboard.com/character/94401447/
The only consequence is he wastes 10 mil, so he can go around killing all day randomly In hopes he can wipe out anothers person's hard work to get rich. Killing in null sec, low sec and high sec if you are precise should be acceptable. But going around killing all day with disregard for other players cause your not risking anything to me isn't acceptable. Why? Anyone that takes a few basic steps to protect him/herself will NOT get killed. Why do you think it's unacceptable that untanked, afk ships get ganked? It's like lvl 4 missions: if you try to do them afk and in a frigate, you'll get killed. By NPCs instead of players, but the principle is the same: if you don't pay attention and use the correct ship/fit for the job, you will probably get killed. What's wrong with that? Also, why do you care about the gankers' cost, risk, etc. since it's so easy to avoid them? If you think ganking is such a risk-free ISK-making activity, why don't you try it yourself?
I care because Im the one loosing the isk, I loose 200 mil he looses 10 mil with nothing to worry about.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/42172810/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/42170901/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/42003616/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39974961/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39974576/
Funny how alot of you are saying just add tank, In a way your agreeing with me that they shouldnt be so easy if your prepared. But those just show you you cant do anything to prepare. There's nothing you can do to stop it, and theres nothing you can do to get them back. And they have free rain all day. Its actually very irritating that a majority of you don't care that I and those players lost alot of time and isk. And they are just random killings with no consequence. |

Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
312
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:07:05 -
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vegetuh wrote:I'm closing my accounts for good, High sec ganking Is way to out of control. Iv seen capital ships fall In high sec, I just lost a mining ship to 3 ships. It's BS, I'm not saying it shouldn't be impossible In high sec. But It should be harder, with much higher consequences then a 15 minute time out. And I know why CCP does little to nothing about it's because CCP wants people to loose isk, it keeps people buying PLEX's and keep the market flowing. But this @#$t is unreasonable, Iv seen a gang of 3 people kill 4 people an hour for 3 hours in high sec. As a miner loosing a tech 2 is ALOT of hours down the tube making isk to buy the ship, sh#$ happens i know that. But a group like that and the only worry they have a 15 minute time out @#$ing please. Iv been playing for 4 years and have 2 accounts, but seems recently high sec ganking really picked up. The pirate has little to no risk attacking someone who is just trying to move high value items they worked hours on in to get or make. With CCP saying your sol, yea people that lost their butt off are SOL because you designed the system. I can feel the trolls coming out from under neath their rocks ready to post, and I'm sure people that high sec gank are ready to respond to because they are the ones getting everything from people that play hard to actually make isk in the game while getting crapped on by CCP. It would understand if people that died by pirates were in low sec or null sec they know the risk. CCP favors pirates, the thought of making isk easy with low risk makes it more interesting right..
It's already been said - but considering Christmas is coming - can I haz ur stuffs?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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embrel
BamBam Inc. Outlanders United
200
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:08:47 -
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Persifonne wrote:OP WAS GANKED IN A DAREDEVIL IN A .5 LAST WEEK OVER 300 mill.... I SEE A PATTERN OF STUPID VEGITABLES https://zkillboard.com/kill/40014826/
Butt this is kicker. His alt bu uu wtf terribad lossboard filled will 100mill shuttle losses 100mill pods just too much fail to describe look https://zkillboard.com/character/656377603/
DUDE YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME. YOU SHOYLD QUIT. HOW DID YOU LAST SO LONG? YOU LOSE FACE IT U BADDIE
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vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:10:47 -
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baltec1 wrote:vegetuh wrote:baltec1 wrote:vegetuh wrote:
Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
Again I ask you, do you even know what punishments are given out for ganking or the risks involved? What a kill right, what a joke like I already said they just had a friend activate before ganking someone else so when concord killed them it took away the kill right. And a lower security status, ouch sure he feels that one. They lose their ship They get a kill right on them Drop in sec status Past a point, they are open to attack from everyone Past a point faction police attack 15 minutes timer where concord will blow them up if the enter space in any ship 50% chance the loot will not drop per item Their ship is ironically profitable to gank To name but a few. It is the single most punished activity in the game.
Really I already explained most of this, AGAIN. They loose 10 mil I loose 200 mil, They have to dock for 15 minutes ouch, drop in sec status BIG ouch. And the kill right like I said they have a friend activate it before ganking someone else and when concord kills them the kill right is removed. 10 mil loss and wasting 15 minutes, but to those they do it to daily loose 200 mil, and who knows how many hours of game play that took to make that isk. |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2878
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:13:27 -
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Meh, truth is you can mine to your heart's content if you do it in right way. Sh!tfit mack is not the right way for sure.
And baltec1, let me shed a tear for those poor gankers :)
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