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Jobie Thickburger Gallente Miner Guide to the Galaxy	Posted - 2006.08.24 14:22:00 - [31] Edited by: Jobie Thickburger on 24/08/2006 14:29:10 Credit where Credit is Due I suppose... The war deffinatly did its job, Gave me quite a headache. Was a good chance for me to test out my Anti-Ceptor setup.... Did well, but I need more practice... Still though, I agree with the poster above who comented that you should count it as all prov. Kills, rather than just CVA, As I know that at least 3 of those kills were me P.S. (/me points to the 2 mining Barges) Those are (were, whatever) mine CEO - MGTTG
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:26:00 - [32] Originally by: Roke E'raith A question though: Has the numbers been "washed" from the kills on your board from the kills of TSDS/Priory/KIA? I noticed several kills was without ANY Omniscient Order on the killmail (and I personally know a battle with KIA only which is on your killboard)? Which kills was that? Very few kills were with non-omnor members, and all on our board has us on the mail. If not, I would like to see them.
Roke E'raith Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:27:00 - [33] Originally by: Mitchman Originally by: Roke E'raith A question though: Has the numbers been "washed" from the kills on your board from the kills of TSDS/Priory/KIA? I noticed several kills was without ANY Omniscient Order on the killmail (and I personally know a battle with KIA only which is on your killboard)? Which kills was that? Very few kills were with non-omnor members, and all on our board has us on the mail. If not, I would like to see them. I will mail you online regarding this. Paranoia is a way of life. Long life.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Roke E'raith I will mail you online regarding this. See my edited response. I think you're just seeing the result of the shared database, which do not influence the statistics for us.
Roke E'raith Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Mitchman Originally by: Roke E'raith I will mail you online regarding this. See my edited response. I think you're just seeing the result of the shared database, which do not influence the statistics for us. All good then, since you answered my original question. :) Paranoia is a way of life. Long life.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:48:00 - [36] They only "share database" kills, when a memeber of your corp is on the killmail. KIA Piccys
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:48:00 - [37] Originally by: Solusar Very nice stats indeed however I feel its abit unfair labeling the topic "against CVA" when only 170 of those 600 ships destroyed belonged to CVA. It does say "CVA/..." (note the dots). Maybe it isn't clear enough so I will change the topic. Originally by: Solusar Good fights from Omni and very little smack. I look forward to round 3 ;) For the uninformed, our old corp Cult of Cthulhu had a war against CVA way back, so this was round 2 I'm sure there will be a new war sometime in the future.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:52:00 - [38] Originally by: KIAEddZ They only "share database" kills, when a memeber of your corp is on the killmail. Not entirely correct. If you look at the stats on any corp, you will find all kills and losses for that corp, regardless of which killboard you use as entrypoint to those statistics.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:58:00 - [39] But if you look at campaign stats, then only kills that a pilot has been included in are involvced in your stats. KIA will publish their campaign stats after the 3 weeks, although we will be a little more specific on the targets. But those stats are very impressive, we are finding CVA PIE NOS a very hard target to stick down. KIA Piccys
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:16:00 - [40] good job omnor.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:29:00 - [41] to PIE they would of certaintly have killed that carrier of yours if we didn't show up. Your carrier pilot was a complete idiot and got himself stranded off the station without a single module fitted. As soon as we had finished killing the carrier OO had undocked a thanatos, which i assume could of killed an unfitted archon that had no where to go In rust we trust!!!
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:57:00 - [42] Edited by: Audrea on 24/08/2006 21:58:43 Originally by: Mitchman The contract included the named targets as well as any and all non-friendly in the CVA-controlled Providence region. During of the contract, we achived the following statistics: Ship class Kills Losses Assault frigate 181 Battlecruiser 242 Battleship 6025 Capsule 19911 Carrier 10 Command ship 71 Covert ops 121 Cruiser 791 Destroyer 30 Frigate 452 Heavy assault 135 Industrial 330 Interceptor 4735 Interdictor 01 Logistics 10 Mining barge 20 Recon ship 183 Transport 6 0 Total: 600 88 Damage done: 10270.084M Damage received: 2253.4M Efficiency: 82.01% All these numbers are based on the eve-killboard.net statistics and ship values. In our campain in Providence, we achived the following statistics: Ship class Kills Losses Assault frigate 230 Battlecruiser 470 Battleship 939 Capsule 29310 Command ship 01 Covert ops 140 Cruiser 764 Destroyer 50 Frigate 512 Heavy assault 156 Industrial 750 Interceptor 4034 Interdictor 21 Mining barge 60 Recon ship 110 Transport 60 Total: 800 67 Damage done: 9685.012M Damage received: 1397.4M Efficiency: 87.39% We will soon be available for new contracts. Interesting.. what is the diffrence between the first and last sum ups? And btw, if you mention specific alliances such as the CVA and NOS - I think it would be fair if you would post percise kill/loss against each of these seperately, otherwise you are not doing justice to either of the entities you mentioned EDIT: Or perhaps you dont post it cause you are afraid the ratio is much more even than the general one you posted looks like? by even I mean not against the random victims, but specifically against the contracted target(S). ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Der Pfaffe Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.24 22:57:00 - [43] Very impressive stats. A great job Click here for information about our services.
CardboardSword42 Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.25 02:27:00 - [44] Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and that makes me cooler 8)
Zei Arlandan Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.25 03:00:00 - [45] Firstly, I sadly only got one proper fight with you guy's, very late at night around 4am gmt which is obviously the best time to pvp for a brit . It was fun though a 3 v 3 bs fight with about equal support in myyhera system. Actually it was the first time in ages that I've been nervous warping into a fight, having mitchman, jamesw, altai etc red on your overview at the same time is a fun experience . Secondly, Audrea.. I'd just leave it. You'll kick up more bad feeling and smack then it's worth. I personally don't care about which kill belonged to which party enough to demand they list them. Just a game after all. It was a fun war atleast in the beginning.
Altai Saker Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.25 03:39:00 - [46] Edited by: Altai Saker on 25/08/2006 03:42:13 Novus Ordos Seclorom Shiptype Kills \| Loss Assault frigate 7 Battlecruiser 9 Battleship 25 \| 6 Capsule 89 \| 4 Covert ops 6 Cruiser 23 \| 1 Frigate 14 \| 1 Heavy assault 3 \| 1 Industrial 25 Interceptor 10 \| 10 Recon ship 1 Transport 1 Much more even
Irimi Nage Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.25 08:44:00 - [47] The reason OMNOR lost so many ceptors is clearly because jamesw is a nubbin at taranising. That is all. ---
jamesw Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.25 10:08:00 - [48] Originally by: Irimi Nage The reason OMNOR lost so many ceptors is clearly because jamesw is a nubbin at taranising. That is all. Shhhhh! don't spread that around... I don't think anyone knows! It would be nice if people were actually scared if they saw me flying at them in one. -- NEW Vid: Domi For the Win!
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.25 10:16:00 - [49] Originally by: jamesw It would be nice if people were actually scared if they saw me flying at them in one. Oh, but they are! Scared of having a laughing fit and spilling soda on the keyboard.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.25 10:16:00 - [50] Edited by: Mitchman on 25/08/2006 10:16:42 bah, the forums are buggy
Spartan239 Caldari Regeneration Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.08.25 10:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Irimi Nage The reason OMNOR lost so many ceptors is clearly because jamesw is a nubbin at taranising. That is all. Pfft your forgetting Altai
Astrocat	Posted - 2006.08.25 10:48:00 - [52] Edited by: Astrocat on 25/08/2006 10:54:12 Exitus acta probat
Adril Alatar Minmatar No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.08.25 11:02:00 - [53] Originally by: Altai Saker Edited by: Altai Saker on 25/08/2006 03:42:13 Novus Ordos Seclorom Shiptype Kills \| Loss Assault frigate 7 Battlecruiser 9 Battleship 25 \| 6 Capsule 89 \| 4 Covert ops 6 Cruiser 23 \| 1 Frigate 14 \| 1 Heavy assault 3 \| 1 Industrial 25 Interceptor 10 \| 10 Recon ship 1 Transport 1 Much more even Is it possible to get this stats also for CVA only?
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.25 11:11:00 - [54] Originally by: Adril Alatar Is it possible to get this stats also for CVA only? Badly formatted, but we use eve-killboard.net, so go there, find our killboard and check contracts. I can't post a direct link due to forum rules. Ship classKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M) Assault frigate69000 Battlecruiser510000 Battleship1966520700 Capsule46230420 Carrier0000 Command ship712601180 Covert ops34500 Cruiser195713 Destroyer10.800 Dreadnought0000 Exhumer0000 Freighter0000 Frigate112.210.2 Heavy assault64804320 Industrial31.500 Interceptor2020021210 Interdictor00120 Logistics0000 Mining barge23000 Mothership0000 Recon ship1313001100 Shuttle30.0300 Titan0000 Transport318000 Totals:1714641.53M541553.2M Efficiency:74.93%
Manfred Doomhammer Caldari ShadowTec Inc. Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.25 11:17:00 - [55] now that looks better... of course, the isk values attached would only really be of any real use if both parties were buying their replacements from the market, right? ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.08.25 11:21:00 - [56] good work against CVA omniscient order. Didnt dislodge them but kept them on their toes.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.25 19:25:00 - [57] Edited by: Hardin on 25/08/2006 19:26:47 My comment on the war: First Omniscent are a very good opponent. When they got in their inties they were nigh on impossible to kill. To be honest I would class them as one of the best (if not the best) opponent we had to fight in terms of their tactics, skills and uber inty setups. However, the actual effect of their campaign on the CVA and our operations were minimal. Yes they killed some of our unwary pilots and ganked A LOT of the nuetrals that share our space over the six or so weeks of their contract - but from a CVA perspective it was very much *'business as usual'. This is not due in any part to a lack of skill on the part of Omniscent - but more down to their lack of numbers and the fact that 95% of the time they remained in interceptor gangs which are nigh on impossible to kill/catch in the hands of experienced pilots but which can be countered quite easily once you know they are around. Occasionally OO would try and catch us by surprise and make sudden switches from Inties to Battleships, however in general this proved comparitively costly (and relatively ineffective) for them and I am sure they will acknowledge that themselves. I wont say the OO war was fun from our perspective as being honest it can be highly frustrating chasing a handful of roaming Inty pilots around. However, I do recognise the neccessity of OOs choice of tactics in the face of a more numerous opponent and the talent and skill with which they employed those tactics. Finally, I would just like to make the point that throughout this six week war the CVA has also been at conflict with a whole host of other dubious corporations and alliances all of whom have been demanding our time and attention. It would be honest to say that during this period our military efforts have been focused more on those enemies to whom we can apply some substantial damage rather than fruitlessly chasing OO Inties around. Amarr Victor* ------------------------------ Hardin's Blog (BACK UP!)
Altai Saker Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.08.25 20:05:00 - [58] The reason we were so "ineffective" in battleships is because when we'd make the switch CVA would notice and not engage us untill they had som serious ECM support or many more numbers... and then we would engage outnumbered and of course we wouldnt keep that 10 to 1 ratio we like so much because we'd be engaging a gang that looks like: Geddon x3, Megat, Falcon, Curse/pilgrim, give or take a few arbitrators with tracking dissy/ecm With maybe 4 bs and a tackler or two... I'm not making any excuses in the end we engaged what we wanted even though we knew we would take losses... We did get some pretty cool even fights, as well as fights where we outnumbered CVA a bit, early on in the contract, and absolute props for that! Oh I also think that the CVA contract shows our last little "goodbye" fight where we engaged 4bs a falcon and like 5 arbitrators with 4 bs a frig and a command ship. So you can subtract 4 losses from ours side and 1 from cva side to see what it would look like without.
Bloodst0ne The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.25 20:15:00 - [59] Nice stats. p.s. Still laughing about that unfitted carrier. -blood I have the "I Win Button" of eve.
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.25 20:57:00 - [60] Originally by: Hardin ...however in general this proved comparitively costly (and relatively ineffective) for them and I am sure they will acknowledge that themselves..... H Zubs speed domi cost me quite some hair Originally by: HippoKing Who cares if the game is coming up. Forums are back \o/

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