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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.11.05 04:43:22 -
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Sorry, don't like it. Don't want it. How do I turn it off, please? 
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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DaReaper
Net 7
1185
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Posted - 2014.11.05 04:55:47 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:Sorry, don't like it. Don't want it. How do I turn it off, please? 
i don;t think you can
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
953
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:03:33 -
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Well, that didn't last long did it...
You can't. Besides it's not like it's in the way or distracting.
Now what I would like is a shortcut for the damned D-Scan again...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
720
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:07:08 -
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You can, there's a pop up window for it in which you can deselect the categories it displays manually, or all of it at once. Just can't recall off the top of my head exactly how I got it to open up and at work, so cannot duplicate til I get home. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
305
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:09:09 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:You can, there's a pop up window for it in which you can deselect the categories it displays manually, or all of it at once. Just can't recall off the top of my head exactly how I got it to open up and at work, so cannot duplicate til I get home.
I did try that, it works to an extent. You still have the rotating compass (without the colours) and doing this also removes them from the camera overlay itself. Which I suppose helps since all the new overlay does is overlay the previous overlay which is already quite apparent without extra colours on top. :/
Seraph Essael wrote:Well, that didn't last long did it...
You can't. Besides it's not like it's in the way or distracting.
I can appreciate others may enjoy it or not find it distracting. For me personally, it's very intrusive. It rotates down the bottom and distracts. Not to mention a 2D compass in a 3D space... well I won't go there. ;)
I think it'd have been far more appropriate to allow further customisation for such a feature.
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
953
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:09:27 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:You can, there's a pop up window for it in which you can deselect the categories it displays manually, or all of it at once. Just can't recall off the top of my head exactly how I got it to open up and at work, so cannot duplicate til I get home. Even turning the pop up window "off", the compass "ring" is still around the edge of the capacitor, I'm assuming that's what he means...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
953
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:19:52 -
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Deleted secondary post.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
4406
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:24:36 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Deleted secondary post.
When you are a single person engaging multiple players at once everything you are not use to seeing is a distraction. Awareness is a biatch in this case since it distracts me immediately making me think I need to focus on a another target.
Will get use to it though like every change that has occurred. Adapt or die.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
305
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:30:18 -
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Seraph Essael wrote: It's a tiny ring around the capacitor how the hell is that intrusive?
It's intrusive because I don't want it there and it interferes with the rest of my overview which is customised to my preferences, up until now.
Quote: (That's mean light heartedly before you go off on one).
Your intent can be as lighthearted as you like, that doesn't change the effect.
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
953
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:31:26 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote: When you are a single person engaging multiple players at once everything you are not use to seeing is a distraction. Awareness is a biatch in this case since it distracts me immediately making me think I need to focus on a another target.
Will get use to it though like every change that has occurred. Adapt or die.
I guess I'm slightly biased, I've kinda gotten used to it somewhat already. 9-10 times I'm looking at my overview and modules damage rather than at the capacitor and the spinning doesn't bother me too much.
Moot point however for people like the OP unfortunately, as there is no way to turn it off.
(My mate saw it earlier and the first thing he said was "Ooooh they made the HUD fabulous"...)
Tavin Aikisen wrote:It's intrusive because I don't want it there and it interferes with the rest of my overview which is customised to my preferences, up until now. That's fair enough, but I don't see how it interferes with your overview when as far as I know, it doesn't actually do anything to your overview... (Does it? If it does something to the overview I have yet to experience it...)
I will say this, wouldn't this have been better to put in the original feedback thread for the patch rather than start a new topic however? It will probably get seen there.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Nate Hill
The Scope Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2014.11.05 10:36:34 -
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I think that's cool. I guess you are a Virgo. |

Kiera Minaris
Asylum Institution Care Factor
10
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Posted - 2014.11.05 11:14:25 -
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There is a way to turn it off
Click on the compass, a box should appear. Click on each type that you want off. (Click on all if you want them all gone) Simple as that.
If you want them to stop appearing in space Click on the compass, a box should appear. Click on the green eye top right of the box. That will leave the compass working, and stop them from appearing in space. |

Serene Repose
1589
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Posted - 2014.11.05 11:31:24 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:Sorry, don't like it. Don't want it. How do I turn it off, please?  Yay! Someone had to say it! It had to be YOU. Whoopee. You don't like it. I'll alert the media. Turn it off by Alt+F4.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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The Tomonator
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.05 13:26:08 -
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I wonder how many dev hours were spent thinking it up, coding it, testing it ... all for a pointless added feature that no-one was asking for and does squat to most game play ... time and money that could have been spent on stuff that is actually wanted by the playerbase?
(comment applicable to several other UI 'advances' over recent years actually)
anyway ... that's my only bug against it. Now I've turned it off, more or less, I can get back to the game, so the thing itself it not a irritation. Just the wasted effort in it's development. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5437
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Posted - 2014.11.05 13:39:38 -
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The Tomonator wrote:I wonder how many dev hours were spent thinking it up, coding it, testing it ... all for a pointless added feature that no-one was asking for and does squat to most game play ... time and money that could have been spent on stuff that is actually wanted by the playerbase?
(comment applicable to several other UI 'advances' over recent years actually)
anyway ... that's my only bug against it. Now I've turned it off, more or less, I can get back to the game, so the thing itself it not a irritation. Just the wasted effort in it's development.
I'm sorry you find it useless.
I like the compass effect, and had I thought of it first, I'd have asked for it. Kudos to CCP for thinking up a feature I wanted before I even knew I wanted it!
Thanks for not sourcing features, or the lack thereof, from this guy. :)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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The Tomonator
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.05 13:42:29 -
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War Kitten wrote:The Tomonator wrote:I wonder how many dev hours were spent thinking it up, coding it, testing it ... all for a pointless added feature that no-one was asking for and does squat to most game play ... time and money that could have been spent on stuff that is actually wanted by the playerbase?
(comment applicable to several other UI 'advances' over recent years actually)
anyway ... that's my only bug against it. Now I've turned it off, more or less, I can get back to the game, so the thing itself it not a irritation. Just the wasted effort in it's development. I'm sorry you find it useless. I like the compass effect, and had I thought of it first, I'd have asked for it. Kudos to CCP for thinking up a feature I wanted before I even knew I wanted it! Thanks for not sourcing features, or the lack thereof, from this guy. :)
That's cool. Glad you find it useful. It's funationality though was kind of there before (via map), this just bring it into main view. Effectively a shortcut.
And, I'm no person to source features from - I'm the most indecisive person ever. lol |

Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
366
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Posted - 2014.11.05 13:43:01 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Tavin Aikisen wrote:Sorry, don't like it. Don't want it. How do I turn it off, please?  Yay! Someone had to say it! It had to be YOU. Whoopee. You don't like it. I'll alert the media. Turn it off by Alt+F4. By activating 4th midslot?
my teapot is ready
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Cidanel Afuran
Astro Technologies Apocalypse Now.
55
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Posted - 2014.11.05 13:48:13 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Well, that didn't last long did it...
You can't. Besides it's not like it's in the way or distracting.
Now what I would like is a shortcut for the damned D-Scan again...
You can add it back. In the shortcuts menu, I changed the probe scanner to be alt+P, and D-scan to be alt+D. |

Serene Repose
1593
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Posted - 2014.11.05 19:00:54 -
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The Tomonator wrote:I wonder how many dev hours were spent thinking it up, coding it, testing it ... all for a pointless added feature that no-one was asking for and does squat to most game play ... time and money that could have been spent on stuff that is actually wanted by the playerbase?
(comment applicable to several other UI 'advances' over recent years actually)
anyway ... that's my only bug against it. Now I've turned it off, more or less, I can get back to the game, so the thing itself it not a irritation. Just the wasted effort in it's development. So. When does your game release? With your level of expertise in how people should spend their time and resources, it should be the ultimate MMO! We can't wait!
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5956
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:15:10 -
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The Tomonator wrote:War Kitten wrote:The Tomonator wrote:I wonder how many dev hours were spent thinking it up, coding it, testing it ... all for a pointless added feature that no-one was asking for and does squat to most game play ... time and money that could have been spent on stuff that is actually wanted by the playerbase?
(comment applicable to several other UI 'advances' over recent years actually)
anyway ... that's my only bug against it. Now I've turned it off, more or less, I can get back to the game, so the thing itself it not a irritation. Just the wasted effort in it's development. I'm sorry you find it useless. I like the compass effect, and had I thought of it first, I'd have asked for it. Kudos to CCP for thinking up a feature I wanted before I even knew I wanted it! Thanks for not sourcing features, or the lack thereof, from this guy. :) That's cool. Glad you find it useful.  It's funationality though was kind of there before (via map), this just bring it into main view. Effectively a shortcut. And, I'm no person to source features from - I'm the most indecisive person ever. lol Actually Tom, the ability to have your bookmarks (among other things) show up in space and be easy to orient on has been asked for repeatedly over the years.
They did their best to come up with a practical way to visualize this that was useful but not overly obtrusive, and I'm pretty sure they knew that no matter what they came up with there would be a handful of people who have no need or desire to locate things around their current solar system quickly.
I'm afraid you may just have to take cold comfort in the fact that what is a minor irritation for you is actually pretty damn handy for the rest of the player base. 
View the latest EVE Online developments and War Thunder game play by visiting Ranger 1 Presents.
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
954
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:20:41 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Well, that didn't last long did it...
You can't. Besides it's not like it's in the way or distracting.
Now what I would like is a shortcut for the damned D-Scan again... You can add it back. In the shortcuts menu, I changed the probe scanner to be alt+P, and D-scan to be alt+D. Yeah I tried that one, I've set it to Shift + D, but I can't get it to work 
Ranger 1 wrote:Actually Tom, the ability to have your bookmarks (among other things) show up in space and be easy to orient on has been asked for repeatedly over the years. Oh my god, so much this, bookmarks on the screen (providing you don't have thousands) is fantastic, so much less right clicking and so much easier to find and get to them if you're in a hurry combined with the radial menu. I don't always use the radial menu but since bookmarks are accessible on screen, it's so much quicker.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
210
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:37:31 -
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The Compass is brilliant , and together with bookmarks in space makes wormhole scouting just much more convenient. I've even learnt to love the sig overlay like my left nut.
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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
310
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:52:38 -
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Serene Repose wrote:The Tomonator wrote:I wonder how many dev hours were spent thinking it up, coding it, testing it ... all for a pointless added feature that no-one was asking for and does squat to most game play ... time and money that could have been spent on stuff that is actually wanted by the playerbase?
(comment applicable to several other UI 'advances' over recent years actually)
anyway ... that's my only bug against it. Now I've turned it off, more or less, I can get back to the game, so the thing itself it not a irritation. Just the wasted effort in it's development. So. When does your game release? With your level of expertise in how people should spend their time and resources, it should be the ultimate MMO! We can't wait!
So people have to be able to do something themselves before they can offer any criticism on said topic? Great logic there...
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Cidanel Afuran
Astro Technologies Apocalypse Now.
55
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Posted - 2014.11.05 22:25:19 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Yeah I tried that one, I've set it to Shift + D, but I can't get it to work 
You can't set it to a keybinding that already is assigned to something else. Set probe scanner to alt+P, then set d-scan to alt+D.
I did that yesterday and it does work, but only if you re-assign the probe scanner hotkey first. |

Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
60
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Posted - 2014.11.05 22:42:51 -
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I like it and I used it within 5 minutes of release. I had to go afk, I noticed I had a bookmark in system (without having to right click) and moved the camera to the bookmark so I could warp to it and cloak up. I think the issue with the UI in general is that it isn't very customizable, meaning I can't always turn a piece of it on or off and in some cases move it to where I really want it.
Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why.
Hunter S. Thompson
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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
310
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:03:22 -
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Burl en Daire wrote: I think the issue with the UI in general is that it isn't very customizable,
Precisely the point. This is why I'm calling for customisation. Not spending energy convincing others to conform to the same belief.
A select few have failed to grasp that, however.
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Jur Tissant
The TERRA Guardians of Serenity
273
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:29:50 -
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You can't have customization in everything. Otherwise the UI becomes even more complex to understand than it already is. If you turn off all the markers the new UI change is hardly noticeable and you probably won't recognize it in a couple weeks. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
311
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Posted - 2014.11.06 06:33:06 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:You can't have customization in everything. Otherwise the UI becomes even more complex to understand than it already is. If you turn off all the markers the new UI change is hardly noticeable and you probably won't recognize it in a couple weeks.
True, but not in this case. We can already switch off everything except the console. All it is doing is allowing it to be properly customised to how it originally was. It's not 'new' customisation.
Overlapping overlays make sense, even though they make things cluttered. However the 2D compass is unintuitive. For one; it's a 2D compass that applies to multiple planes. And secondly, you still need to physically look to determine the angle once you've got a partial bearing... you might as well be looking up from the compass anyway instead of adding an extra step. The bookmark itself is pointless, why look for the bookmark? Just right click and go. Viewing the direction of the bookmark is not a requirement to activate it.
Now that's being very pedantic? Possibly. But that's why making the feature customisable, allowing the previous working solution to continue, is a nice compromise.
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Miromme Echerie
Laughing Coffin's
3
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Posted - 2014.11.06 07:04:56 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Well, that didn't last long did it...
You can't. Besides it's not like it's in the way or distracting.
Now what I would like is a shortcut for the damned D-Scan again... Alt+D still opens the D-Scan >.> |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1517
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Posted - 2014.11.06 08:13:15 -
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There's a button at the bottom right of your screen which gets rid of it: http://i.imgur.com/l4IybQn.jpg
Sorry, couldn't resist. Seriously though, just adapt. It is a bit distracting but adds a LOT when you get used to it. And if you can't deal with this change then I wonder how you are going to cope with what is coming up.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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