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Thkiir
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:12:00 -
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Does the location put into play by By the Emperor's Decree care about "limited"?
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Draaken
Caldari
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Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.24 22:25:00 -
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Since the text on By the Emperor's Decree says "and put it into play" as opposed to "and play it", I would think that it's possible to get a limited location into play even if you've played one in your turn.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.25 04:49:00 -
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No.
The card mentions if it has no legal targets or could not be played into any region in play to put it on the scrapheap.
If you've already played a limited card, then the limited pulled by decree cannot be played anywhere.
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Faya
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:20:00 -
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No, it doesn't care about 'limited'. 'Limited' only prevents you from playing more than one limited card. Limited and other cards can come into play by other means as much as you can manage. For example you can empty all scrapheaps of locations at once with Ginnungagap (if you have the cash to pay the ability of course)
The locations that come into play through emperor's do trigger comes into play abilities such as scordite or omber.
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Ryuteki
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Faya
No, it doesn't care about 'limited'. 'Limited' only prevents you from playing more than one limited card. Limited and other cards can come into play by other means as much as you can manage.
Normally that would be true, but the specific card in question has text that disallows you to put into play a card that could not "normally be played." Thus the Limited kicks in.
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Thkiir
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ryuteki
Normally that would be true, but the specific card in question has text that disallows you to put into play a card that could not "normally be played." Thus the Limited kicks in.
Okay, so what if I use the news on my opponent's turn instead? I couldn't normally play ANY locations in that case. My first inclination would be to say that the "could normally be played" really refers to location limits and playing outer-region-only locations only in outer regions.
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Faya
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Posted - 2006.08.25 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ryuteki
Originally by: Faya
No, it doesn't care about 'limited'. 'Limited' only prevents you from playing more than one limited card. Limited and other cards can come into play by other means as much as you can manage.
Normally that would be true, but the specific card in question has text that disallows you to put into play a card that could not "normally be played." Thus the Limited kicks in.
Full card text:
By The Emperor's Decree (2) News
Reveal cards from the top of your market until you reveal a location card. Put that location into play and shuffle the revealed cards back into your market. If the location has no legal targets or could not be played into any of the regions in play, place it on your scrapheap instead.
Granted, there is some ambiguity about whether the 'could not be played' part refers to limited, but looking at the whole sentence leads me to believe the intent of the card is to prevent playing 'outer region only' locations on home regions, or playing locations on full regions. The card could be worded more carefully sure :)
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:37:00 -
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I agree with Faya, I think that this card ignores limited by intention. However, it's not particularly clear.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.27 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Faya
No, it doesn't care about 'limited'. 'Limited' only prevents you from playing more than one limited card. Limited and other cards can come into play by other means as much as you can manage. For example you can empty all scrapheaps of locations at once with Ginnungagap (if you have the cash to pay the ability of course)
The locations that come into play through emperor's do trigger comes into play abilities such as scordite or omber.
Emperor's decree says if the card cannot be played, you must destroy it.
It is having you play the card. If it's a limited, and you've already played a limited. The decree's limited cannot be played, and must be destroyed.
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Thkiir
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Posted - 2006.08.27 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
It is having you play the card. If it's a limited, and you've already played a limited. The decree's limited cannot be played, and must be destroyed.
I think you're wrong. How's that? 
I agree with Faya. I think it's to prevent people from using it to play locations illegally-- Arkonor into your home region, Sublet Station into The Tierijev Pocket, anything into Ginnungagap, etc. I do think the card needs an official ruling, though.
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Tallest
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:09:00 -
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The location you get with By the Emperor's Decree does not count towards your one limited card per turn because it isn't played, it is put into play.
The line "or could not be played into any of the regions in play" is intended to prevent you from putting outer region only cards in your home region and vice versa. It could be interpreted that you cannot put into play a limited location if you already played one, but this is not the intent of the card. It's supposed to refer to regional restrictions.
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Ryuteki
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Posted - 2006.08.29 19:30:00 -
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I stand corrected. :)
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