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Oxylan
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:21:28 -
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Hi spacepilots.
I noticed a lot of my old friends and "knowing faces" just gone form EvE during last two - three years, this was one of meny reason that i stop play it to, im still pay monthy fee and swiching skills but im burnt - exhausted form EvE like them... i play since 2007 during years meny friends leave form game but there still eve fans, well average number of players online its fine and stable but there is somthing wrong, in general there more jung - fresh pilots than old veteras, im my opinion CCP should do somthing that keep people longer because with this trend things just go wrong, in my opinion its very importand to keep people inside game so long as possible.
Other reason why, CCP should care about old players, because new players like to play wiht somone who got expirence and still care. " its like removing Guru form temple and after this all students lose faith and sense to stay "
Maybe? add more content, boosting thier motivation, make feeling that they are realy core of this game, make them that they realy importand to other and this virtual wold.
Why meny old players just stop playing EvE?
Because EvE is less hardcore like before? Because to much wired changes that old players dont like ? EvE its to easy? because EvE is to shiny? Because meny skills just lose own role and people like to spent like 2min long to get enemy ship signal while scaning and they were proud of train some skillt to lv5 even they got zero impant on efficienty?
Maybe because CCP broke own motto that said EvE is harsh and dark place while isynt so much like before, designed for people who like shiny arcade elements and more cool stuf,
Or maybe there was nothing fresh and new for them, and these Professors who study and know EvE form A to Z just got bored, these question just atack my mind almost everyday.
Chers and fly safe.
If it bleed we can kill it.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4773
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:38:29 -
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Wow..an EVE is dying post, with more then 3 words in it....but still an EVE is dying post. But this also includes a Grrr high-sec buffs and Grrr easy mode in it.
I know plenty of veterans in EVE, some WAY older then you that still have fun playing.
If you and your friends are bored, it's your own damn fault...It's a sandbox, go do something that you have fun doing.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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DaReaper
Net 7
1202
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:00:41 -
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J'Poll wrote:Wow..an EVE is dying post, with more then 3 words in it....but still an EVE is dying post. But this also includes a Grrr high-sec buffs and Grrr easy mode in it.
I know plenty of veterans in EVE, some WAY older then you that still have fun playing.
If you and your friends are bored, it's your own damn fault...It's a sandbox, go do something that you have fun doing.
yup, 10.5 years here.
also I heard roumers that phoebe actually caused a good number of vets to start coming back. So if that true, we will see an influx of old faces as null changes over the next few months
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Hicksimus
Plan-It Xpress
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
399
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:51:31 -
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I see a lot of vets get stuck doing just one thing......they have no idea about what else EvE has to offer and they just sit around being bored. Maybe it's from fear of having a long employment history or maybe it's just human nature to find somewhere comfortable and stay there.
In no particular order:
Highsec Wars
Suicide Ganking
Contract Scams
Awoxing
Solo Class 1-3 wormhole adventures
Group Wormhole adventures Class 1-6
Just straight up finding wormholes to harass
Being in a power bloc
Being a pet
Being a renter
Being a roleplayer
Beating on roleplayers
Being in a small-gang PvP corporation
Being a highsec dweller
Being a lowsec dweller
Running your own industrial operation from mining to research and manufacturing
Faction Warfare
Storyline Work
Missions for nullsec NPCs
Exploration
Being a gatecamper
Living on a lowsec island
Living on a Highsec Island
Pretending to be a noob procurer and then giving people the buttseks
Being a forum troll
Being a petition troll(dangerous)
Running a noob training corporation
Running an Alliance
These are all things anybody can do within the next month but most people will just sit in their comfy chair whining about how EvE became boring at 100m SP.
Do you have it?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7071
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:55:23 -
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Oxylan wrote:How to hold old players?
A headlock usually works.
Blackmail, sometimes...
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:57:49 -
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OP.
Take a break. It does wonders for the soul. Keep in touch with your old friends who play and one day you'll get that unscratchable itch. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
13137
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Posted - 2014.11.06 07:30:59 -
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Short breaks are very good thing. As for how to hold the older players, I personally enjoy hugs very much.
/c
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5626
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Posted - 2014.11.06 07:38:58 -
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The best way to hold old players is to give them Viagra so they don't roll out of bed at night.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Nate Hill
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2014.11.06 11:25:23 -
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Nothing can stop this tendency, so-called seven-year itch.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
291
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Posted - 2014.11.06 11:45:04 -
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Wut?
I mean geez... |
Luwc
Confederation of Independent Contractors
Swamphole
280
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Posted - 2014.11.06 11:55:42 -
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stop changing things I am used to.
stop making it ****** friendly i.e. flooding it with 9years old COD and WoW players.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
3202
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:04:47 -
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Chribba wrote:Short breaks are very good thing. As for how to hold the older players, I personally enjoy hugs very much.
/c
*glomps Chribba*
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Signal11th
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1442
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:08:26 -
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DaReaper wrote:J'Poll wrote:Wow..an EVE is dying post, with more then 3 words in it....but still an EVE is dying post. But this also includes a Grrr high-sec buffs and Grrr easy mode in it.
I know plenty of veterans in EVE, some WAY older then you that still have fun playing.
If you and your friends are bored, it's your own damn fault...It's a sandbox, go do something that you have fun doing. yup, 10.5 years here. also I heard roumers that phoebe actually caused a good number of vets to start coming back. So if that true, we will see an influx of old faces as null changes over the next few months
I'm back after a 6 month hiatus nothing changed but the itch needed scratching, plus it's nice just to chill and not have to dance to some 0.0 geeklord tune.
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God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster.
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The Tomonator
Central Builders Incorporated
Northern Associates.
15
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Posted - 2014.11.06 13:57:56 -
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by their ****'s, until they do what you tell 'em to. |
The Tomonator
Central Builders Incorporated
Northern Associates.
15
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Posted - 2014.11.06 14:00:26 -
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DaReaper wrote:J'Poll wrote:Wow..an EVE is dying post, with more then 3 words in it....but still an EVE is dying post. But this also includes a Grrr high-sec buffs and Grrr easy mode in it.
I know plenty of veterans in EVE, some WAY older then you that still have fun playing.
If you and your friends are bored, it's your own damn fault...It's a sandbox, go do something that you have fun doing. yup, 10.5 years here. also I heard roumers that phoebe actually caused a good number of vets to start coming back. So if that true, we will see an influx of old faces as null changes over the next few months
that'll be because of the ten days free game time that alot I know got. :)
and, (main) nearly 11 years. I've dealt with so many burn outs over the years. Just cancel sub ... bite nails a bit, then return. Works every time. :) |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
159
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:19:36 -
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I recommend holding them by their genitals. |
Serene Repose
1598
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:28:45 -
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I'm 59 years old. I'm not bored yet. Unless, you meant the touchy-feely on the sofa watching a movie hold...
Did you mean the touchy-feely on the sofa watching a movie kind of hold? You really must be more transparent.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:37:46 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi spacepilots.
I noticed a lot of my old friends and "knowing faces" just gone form EvE during last two - three years, this was one of meny reason that i stop play it to, im still pay monthy fee and swiching skills but im burnt - exhausted form EvE like them... i play since 2007 during years meny friends leave form game but there still eve fans, well average number of players online its fine and stable but there is somthing wrong, in general there more jung - fresh pilots than old veteras, im my opinion CCP should do somthing that keep people longer because with this trend things just go wrong, in my opinion its very importand to keep people inside game so long as possible.
Other reason why, CCP should care about old players, because new players like to play wiht somone who got expirence and still care. " its like removing Guru form temple and after this all students lose faith and sense to stay "
Maybe? add more content, boosting thier motivation, make feeling that they are realy core of this game, make them that they realy importand to other and this virtual wold.
Why meny old players just stop playing EvE?
Because EvE is less hardcore like before? Because to much wired changes that old players dont like ? EvE its to easy? because EvE is to shiny? Because meny skills just lose own role and people like to spent like 2min long to get enemy ship signal while scaning and they were proud of train some skillt to lv5 even they got zero impant on efficienty?
Maybe because CCP broke own motto that said EvE is harsh and dark place while isynt so much like before, designed for people who like shiny arcade elements and more cool stuf,
Or maybe there was nothing fresh and new for them, and these Professors who study and know EvE form A to Z just got bored, these question just atack my mind almost everyday.
Chers and fly safe.
As you are thinking of leaving can I have your stuff?
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4777
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:53:15 -
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Chribba wrote:Short breaks are very good thing. As for how to hold the older players, I personally enjoy hugs very much.
/c
Well, here...have a space hug...
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Vyl Vit
873
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:56:37 -
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Hicksimus wrote:I see a lot of vets get stuck doing just one thing......they have no idea about what else EvE has to offer and they just sit around being bored. Maybe it's from fear of having a long employment history or maybe it's just human nature to find somewhere comfortable and stay there.
Jump to wild, unfounded conclusions much?
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
Somethin Awfull Forums
649
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Posted - 2014.11.06 19:05:34 -
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As a revolving door, EVE player I don't know if there is anything CCP can do.
Turn the table, I am also a revolving door LotRO player, a revolving door Perpetuum player, a revolving door FF14 player. Instead of playing any one of those games, I'm here with you Mongooses. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
C0VEN
374
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Posted - 2014.11.06 19:08:20 -
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To eliminate TL:DR, Elitism is the biggest killer in eve. First, players get bored. Eve was too small. Yay this latest patch. Eve had stagnated. Idid most everything and nothing excited me. I am getting back in more regular. The Elitism refers to how vet play was everybody seemed expected to me a multiboxer with farming alts. Of course things will stagnate when minimum requirements are fsction fit incursion ships or T3 Minimum fleet ships. Suddenly is boring or repetitive. Some thrive on that and others quickly drop fleet.My best times in eve as a vet tend to be myself and other vets working with scores of new player. Forget the killboard efficiency and win. Dang we are 60% and lost 5x as many ships? who cares if won. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3255
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:34:07 -
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There are a zillion reasons older players drop in and out of the game.
All CCP has to do is come through with a good, diverse sov system, new starbase system, and the player built gates. CCP said this is happening. They're obviously serious about it this time. The changes are coming and they've been great. All they have to do is follow through. You'll see a lot of inactive players coming back. I guarantee it. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
The 99 Percent
872
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:56:47 -
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No more clone grades, no more SP loss.
BitterVets returning? Soon!
"Remember remember the 4th of November!"
Phoebe. Coming soon to Eve Online.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
19576
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:11:23 -
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We haven't had a vet station discussion for a while.
Maybe CCP will erect the vet station in a wormhole and everyone can live happily ever after.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
47
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:38:41 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:We haven't had a vet station discussion for a while.
Maybe CCP will erect the vet station in a wormhole and everyone can live happily ever after.
Thera?
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Skywalker
WILDSINT
S.C.A
72
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:39:48 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:We haven't had a vet station discussion for a while.
Maybe CCP will erect the vet station in a wormhole and everyone can live happily ever after.
They are erecting a station in a wormhole, not for vets only though. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
776
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:43:38 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:We haven't had a vet station discussion for a while.
Maybe CCP will erect the vet station in a wormhole and everyone can live happily ever after.
Well, if there would be a vet station, i demand that it's called "Farewell Ranch"
o.0
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6768
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:54:33 -
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Oxylan wrote:How to hold old players?
With kid gloves.
They are ever so temperamental and will throw a tantrum at the slightest poke at their gameplay. You have to ease them into the future one little baby step at a time. And even that may cause a dreaded threadnaught to erupt due to their delicate sensitivities.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Marsha Mallow
1688
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Posted - 2014.11.06 23:00:52 -
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Restart the recall scheme asap. The vets can pull older players in more effectively than patch resub mails. Ideally allow sending a short personal message to the person they recall and the option to set the notification public/private so others can monitor, but institute a hard cap of requests p/m so the recepient isn't mail-spammed.
Also, free stuff. Hand it over CCP! We should get shinies on our character birthdays, regardless of whether they were subbed for the entire period. They don't have to be particularly valuable, tbh they could be non-tradable or part of the decoration system.
I like to be held firmly from behind whilst bent over a desk. Or garden furniture. I think a lot of EvE players share this preference but prefer to pretend they tripped. Speak for youself Epeen.
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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