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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.27 13:46:00 -
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Daedalus Arcova wrote:
Highsec incursions need a massive nerf, either to put their ISK/hr on par or below L4 highsec missions
Yes, let's make grouping and working together to accomplish something earn you the same as running solo.
Why should we even play with each other? Let's just make EVE a solo game.
Such a clever little brick you are. Here have a candy.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.27 13:50:00 -
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Daedalus Arcova wrote:
Nullsec sov-holding is at the top end of group activity in EVE. It should be significantly more rewarding than highsec, including the temporary teamwork of incursions.
That's right. That is why you have nullsec incursions  .
The thing is, different professions pay differently depending on the skillset of that pilot, but nullsec will always pay you more.
Trading stuff in nullsec vs. highsec.
Freighting stuff in nullsec vs. highsec.
Exploring in nullsec. vs. highsec.
Mining in nullsec vs. highsec.
Running incursions in nullsec vs. highsec.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.27 21:07:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:
What you and so many people seem to miss is that null sec space needs to hold value for the solo, casual player to log in, make some isk and log out. The space itself needs to have that value OVER empire space not because we want more of you out here, simply because it's the basic principle of what EVE was built off of.
A solar system in null sec, no matter the security status should never be worth less for a solo, casual player to make an income than that of a .5 system that has the protection of Concord.
Ever.
Well that's the thing. Should solo PVE in nullsec pay more out per individual than group PVE in highsec?
I'd say an attitude change is needed in nullsec by leaders. Too many times have I seen nullsec pilots in my fleets talk about how tired they are about the politics and bullshit out in nullsec. The endless CTA's, rules and just being overlooked.
So is the problem reward? Or is the problem lying somewhere else completely?
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
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Posted - 2011.11.27 21:36:00 -
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Daedalus Arcova wrote:whoyoulookingat wrote:Daedalus Arcova wrote:Incursions in nullsec are more lucrative than belt or anomaly ratting, hour-for-hour, but preparing for them is also a lot of hassle, and they're certainly nowhere near the cash cow of their highsec equivalents. And this is the fault of whom? High-sec dwellers? Nope, you complain about not being able to run the null sec incursions yet the only obstacle blocking yourself is not one put in place by CCP.. It's put in place by your "OWN" Alliances & Corps that Live out there. The Solutions are there, staring all you null sec peeps in the face yet if your Leaders can't work together for the sake of helping out their members.. well, say no more. But to come whining to the forums is oh so facepalm  So all the nullsec alliances should to get together and blue each other, in an even bigger NAPfest circlejerk than we have already, so that we can all run incursions together and sing kumbaya, right? You are a tool. Get the **** out.
NRDS.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
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Posted - 2011.11.28 01:40:00 -
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Fearless M0F0 wrote:
There might be a handful of elite incursion runners out there able to make more than 120m/hr but I have yet to meet any.
Oh, me me! We managed to do 15 sites once... we were extremely lucky though.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.28 20:58:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Soi Mala wrote:
Correct. When you know exactly what is in a site and how to avoid triggers, and are backed up by a handful of logistics, fighting predicable enemies, then the risk of your ship exploding is pretty damn low unless you're a moron.
Ah right. So when people say highsec Incursions have "zero risk", they actually mean "low risk assuming a decently knowledgeable and competent group of players".
Lol, owned.
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