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Kieli Rast	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:09:00 - [1] Edited by: Kieli Rast on 25/08/2006 15:11:59 The only way these are ever going to stop is if people don't invest. However, people are greedy and have more money than sense. For people like me, it is our duty to relieve them of that privelidge of wealth. If you would like me to help you pull off an IPO scam, I will glady go through it with you for 20% of your take... service includes website design public relations entrapment evasion screenshot editing false documentation actors for teamspeak verification actors for real life communications Please follow the Forum rules (see #3) when creating a signature graphic for your character -Eldo email us for questions.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:14:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/08/2006 15:14:34 Originally by: Kieli Rast Edited by: Kieli Rast on 25/08/2006 15:11:59 The only way these are ever going to stop is if people don't invest. However, people are greedy and have more money than sense. For people like me, it is our duty to relieve them of that privelidge of wealth. If you would like me to help you pull off an IPO scam, I will glady go through it with you for 20% of your take... How can you trust the scammer to pay you afterwards? P.S. The only way this will stop is if CCP creates an actual financial system to replace the crappy one players have had to create themselves. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Kieli Rast	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:19:00 - [3] because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. There are ways to prevent yourself from being ripped off, even from a scammer such as me. The difference is knowing how to do it. Regardless, If I can help someone pull off a multi billion isk scam, they are likely to come to me again for help I may even do an IPO for this....... reckon I would get many investors? Please follow the Forum rules (see #3) when creating a signature graphic for your character -Eldo email us for questions.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. There are ways to prevent yourself from being ripped off, even from a scammer such as me. The difference is knowing how to do it. Regardless, If I can help someone pull off a multi billion isk scam, they are likely to come to me again for help If someone is willing to scam the public, they're certainly willing to scam you too The only possibility would be a deposit... which the scammer would only be able to pay AFTER he sold the shares... and at that point he could just run off with the ISK and laugh at you. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Wayback	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:22:00 - [5] Pulling ones chain to often can result in said chain falling off. That is all
Kieli Rast	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:23:00 - [6] Not really. There are ways to prevent that.... just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist Please follow the Forum rules (see #3) when creating a signature graphic for your character -Eldo email us for questions.
Godagast Goudiyah Amarr Templarii Holdings	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:31:00 - [7] Why don't you first use your mammoth intellect to create a signature that follows the forum rules, so we can see and admire your "I win Eve" antics? It shouldn't be that hard for someone who forges Fraps videos within minutes. In any case, good luck with the venture. It is going to be fun seeing the scammers trying to scam each other.
JP Moregain Gallente Moregain Guaranty Trust	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:41:00 - [8] Edited by: JP Moregain on 25/08/2006 15:42:38 Originally by: Dark Shikari P.S. The only way this will stop is if CCP creates an actual financial system to replace the crappy one players have had to create themselves. /signed And Rast I would like your help with an IPO I am planning. I am setting up a "private bank" in EVE to serve the uber-wealthly (say 500 billion isk or more) where I 'hold' their assets for them and tell them all the great profits I am generating with it and then run off and do a victory dance 'I am so mighty' video with lots of foul language while I tell them how stupid and greedy they are, and oh by the way, and I have their ISK. I have a target market of 1, but it won't matter because that is enough ISK for me to 'win' EvE. As a side benefit for opening their account they get a free signature that doesn't violate forum rules and actually shows up... Best Regards, JP "In JP We Trust, All Others Require Collateral..."
Feronia Gallente Magma Industries	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. To put things into perspective, you maybe fooled about 500 people out of 100.000+ accounts. Thats only 0.5 %.
Lord Vager Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:27:00 - [10] Edited by: Lord Vager on 25/08/2006 16:30:24 Originally by: Feronia Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. To put things into perspective, you maybe fooled about 500 people out of 100.000+ accounts. Thats only 0.5 %. Its funny how those that have an e-peen superiority complex like to exaggerate stuff. Since Rast says 99.9% of eve players are dumb - when in fact about 98.9% of them don't even read the forums in the first place and have no idea or could care less about the scams taking place on them, I guess its plausible that the eve galactic banks scam was only a fraction of what was boasted about? e-peen exaggeration ftw! Never trust a screenshot, the word of a pathelogical liar, or someone who's video message to the world made him sound like he's still got a few millenia of evolution to catch up on (anyone translated it into legiable english yet?).
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/08/2006 15:14:34 Originally by: Kieli Rast Edited by: Kieli Rast on 25/08/2006 15:11:59 The only way these are ever going to stop is if people don't invest. However, people are greedy and have more money than sense. For people like me, it is our duty to relieve them of that privelidge of wealth. If you would like me to help you pull off an IPO scam, I will glady go through it with you for 20% of your take... How can you trust the scammer to pay you afterwards? P.S. The only way this will stop is if CCP creates an actual financial system to replace the crappy one players have had to create themselves. Honor amongst thieves, and all that. CCP can't build a system to fix greed and laziness. Scams work because the scammer is greedier and less lazy than the victim. Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
Kieli Rast	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:48:00 - [12] Haa haa lollerz! personal attacks FTW!!!! what makes you think that was my real voice? what makes you think the way in which it was delivered was not intended for the effect? what makes you think I care? All that matters is that despite 2 months of it being obviously a shambles of an operation, the clients still (probably you aswell) used the bank and deposited their money. The scam didnt have to look sexy... All that mattered to me was the score amount and rubing it in all your faces mmmm pie Please follow the Forum rules (see #3) when creating a signature graphic for your character -Eldo email us for questions.
Lord Vager Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.25 17:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Kieli Rast Haa haa lollerz! All that matters is that despite 2 months of it being obviously a shambles of an operation, the clients still (probably you aswell) used the bank and deposited their money. Acutually, I'd put that down to people like Dark Shikari and EMFi who stuck by eib and defended it against all those that saw it for what it was (by the way how much did you pay them?)
omgwtfbbqd	Posted - 2006.08.25 17:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the public. edited for correctness
Alaph Force Gallente Es and Whizz	Posted - 2006.08.25 21:38:00 - [15] Edited by: Alaph Force on 25/08/2006 21:40:34 Originally by: Dark Shikari P.S. The only way this will stop is if CCP creates an actual financial system to replace the crappy one players have had to create themselves. Not true , the player system would be fine if there was a system to back it up. EvE Sigfiles
Godagast Goudiyah Amarr Templarii Holdings	Posted - 2006.08.25 21:52:00 - [16] Originally by: Kieli Rast what makes you think I care? I think it is rather obvious that you care - immensely! - about what people think of you, and are extremely dependant on the perception of others. If the score was really all that mattered, you would simply have walked away with the money. You wouldn't have made a long, self-gloryfying "confession video", and you wouldn't be all over the forums crying for people's attention. Seriously, it is getting a tad embarassing. Yes, people are too trusting, yes, you fooled them all, yes, well done. Shut up already!
Serpico Ripley	Posted - 2006.08.25 21:56:00 - [17] Edited by: Serpico Ripley on 25/08/2006 21:56:40 Originally by: Kieli Rast what makes you think that was my real voice? what makes you think the way in which it was delivered was not intended for the effect? what makes you think I care? The scam didnt have to look sexy... All that mattered to me was the score amount and rubing it in all your faces mmmm pie Great thing is, you really do care and your pie is stale. Haa haa lollerz!!! 99.9 of the player base hates you or doesnt care, lollerz!!! Enjoy being a god to a couple of teenagers, lindsay lohan/mr. rast!!!
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2006.08.26 00:32:00 - [18] This man has serious mental issues. Besides Marvel comics and James Bond movies I have never experienced such a demonstration of megalomania combined with foulest moral. I really wouldn't have believed that such could come into existance outside of the feather of an fiction author. I'm truly concerned that CCP allows its virtual world to be abused as the playground by such a man. There are minimum requirements to moral, modesty and ethics, which should be valid even for a game like this. This man neglects them all. I'm disgusted. Juwi Kotch
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 01:08:00 - [19] Originally by: Alaph Force Edited by: Alaph Force on 25/08/2006 21:40:34 Originally by: Dark Shikari P.S. The only way this will stop is if CCP creates an actual financial system to replace the crappy one players have had to create themselves. Not true , the player system would be fine if there was a system to back it up. Well thats what I mean. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Torlack	Posted - 2006.08.26 05:54:00 - [20] This thread is a riot. I guess the talk about EIB was slowing down.
BurnHard	Posted - 2006.08.26 07:01:00 - [21] Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. You don't seem particularly intelligent to me at all. Just borderline OCD. You can scam because you can be arsed to unlike most other people, without that inclination. You also seem to be a ***** **. Which is too bad for you.
Femintaki Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:12:00 - [22] Originally by: JP Moregain I am setting up a "private bank" in EVE to serve the uber-wealthly (say 500 billion isk or more) ...... I have a target market of 1, Actually you might be surprised how many individuals in Eve have an ingame net worth greater than 500 bil isk or more Perhaps you meant to say your intended target market is 1 Quote: Do or do not - there is no try!
EMFI Auditor Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.26 16:08:00 - [23] Originally by: Femintaki Edited by: Femintaki on 26/08/2006 11:17:33 Originally by: JP Moregain I am setting up a "private bank" in EVE to serve the uber-wealthly (say 500 billion isk or more) ...... I have a target market of 1, Actually you might be surprised how many individuals in Eve have an ingame net worth greater than 500 bil isk or more. Just that the others "probably" earnt theirs through fair and honest means. Perhaps you meant to say your intended target market is 1 Nah he is targeting people with 500b in cash, not with 500b net worth ------------------------------------------ "The only thing I am gonna argue with alts is wether I should argue with alts." -- Naphtalia 2006
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.27 04:10:00 - [24] Originally by: JP Moregain Edited by: JP Moregain on 25/08/2006 15:42:38 Originally by: Dark Shikari P.S. The only way this will stop is if CCP creates an actual financial system to replace the crappy one players have had to create themselves. /signed And Rast I would like your help with an IPO I am planning. I am setting up a "private bank" in EVE to serve the uber-wealthly (say 500 billion isk or more) where I 'hold' their assets for them and tell them all the great profits I am generating with it and then run off and do a victory dance 'I am so mighty' video with lots of foul language while I tell them how stupid and greedy they are, and oh by the way, and I have their ISK. I have a target market of 1, but it won't matter because that is enough ISK for me to 'win' EvE. As a side benefit for opening their account they get a free signature that doesn't violate forum rules and actually shows up... Best Regards, JP
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.27 04:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Kieli Rast service includes website design public relations entrapment evasion screenshot editing false documentation actors for teamspeak verification actors for real life communications Like I said a few days back, your screenie is a fake, and unless you open a trade window with me and show the ISK, your 'biggest scam' will be making people believe you actually stole more than you did.
Dentara Rast Satan's Plague	Posted - 2006.08.27 12:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Kieli Rast service includes website design public relations entrapment evasion screenshot editing false documentation actors for teamspeak verification actors for real life communications Like I said a few days back, your screenie is a fake, and unless you open a trade window with me and show the ISK, your 'biggest scam' will be making people believe you actually stole more than you did. I guess you will never know then Signature removed. If you have any questions, email us at [email protected]. - Tirg
Sheng Mu	Posted - 2006.08.27 16:28:00 - [27] Edited by: Sheng Mu on 27/08/2006 16:31:51 Edited by: Sheng Mu on 27/08/2006 16:31:33 Edited by: Sheng Mu on 27/08/2006 16:28:24 (see rast in real life situations!) #1 (the market) RAST: "I'm going to borrow this bread from your fine establishment. Do not worry, you will be recieving a guarenteed 15% return on your investment for the first 3 months." CASHIER: "Oh, ok, well you have to pay for that." RAST: "You've just been... SCAMMED! ______________________________________________________ #2 (at the water park) RAST: "If you let me go down the slide first, you'll have even MORE fun when you go." BOY: "REALLY? OK!" RAST: "You've just been... SCAMMED!" ______________________________________________________ New information also involves ties between Rast and Enron, however when the board heard about his business plan, Kenneth Lay was quoted as saying: "A ******* video game?" You won't find any reference to the OT here, i'm just riding my trollerskates.
Serpico Ripley	Posted - 2006.08.27 17:42:00 - [28] Edited by: Serpico Ripley on 27/08/2006 17:44:22 Originally by: Dentara Rast Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Kieli Rast service includes website design public relations entrapment evasion screenshot editing false documentation actors for teamspeak verification actors for real life communications Like I said a few days back, your screenie is a fake, and unless you open a trade window with me and show the ISK, your 'biggest scam' will be making people believe you actually stole more than you did. I guess you will never know then D3\|\\|74R4 r457 \|\\|07 7\|-\|3 \/\/1\|\\|
Ferrosa Gallente Lyonesse Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.27 19:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. And*****y and a big retard, not to mention. You screwed yourself over, people that know what you've done think you're an ass, you've proven on numerous occasions that you're a nobody in real life with no communication skills, without a girlfriend or any prospect to one and with no friends. That sums up the entire thing then? lol And if you think you're intelligent, try passing one of my courses at uni, think you'd be surprised how many people are more intelligent than yourself. People that invested in EIB were showing trust, which you blatantly violated. You're an unethical individual with no sense of style nor morals... Well, at least at the end of your life you'll think: "Wow, how my life sucked... but I sure as hell did scam those people... I'm evil, wooow" Face reality and get a job Greetings, Ferrosa Official broker at the EvE Galactic Stock Exchange
Dentara Rast Satan's Plague	Posted - 2006.08.27 19:53:00 - [30] Originally by: Ferrosa Originally by: Kieli Rast because im intelligent unlike 99.9% of the EVE public. And*****y and a big retard, not to mention. You screwed yourself over, people that know what you've done think you're an ass, you've proven on numerous occasions that you're a nobody in real life with no communication skills, without a girlfriend or any prospect to one and with no friends. That sums up the entire thing then? lol And if you think you're intelligent, try passing one of my courses at uni, think you'd be surprised how many people are more intelligent than yourself. People that invested in EIB were showing trust, which you blatantly violated. You're an unethical individual with no sense of style nor morals... Well, at least at the end of your life you'll think: "Wow, how my life sucked... but I sure as hell did scam those people... I'm evil, wooow" Face reality and get a job Greetings, Ferrosa boo hoo... ferossa is picking on me Signature removed. If you have any questions, email us at [email protected]. - Tirg
Dentara Rast Satan's Plague	Posted - 2006.08.27 20:07:00 - [31] For those of you that would like to vent some anger at me, verbally abuse me, or have a general chit chat, your all welcome to come onto our ventrillo server.. details server address : satanplague.zapto.org port : 3784 no password Im usually on it from around 20:00 Game time, up until 00:00 gametime. Im putting together a website for your viewing pleasure that will have details of my history in EVE leading upto and including the scam, and also a section for fan mail and recordings of ventrillo/ts conversations. "There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder WHAT happened"...
Ferrosa Gallente Lyonesse Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.27 20:54:00 - [32] wow, you have a ventrilo server... Now everyone wants to be your friend.. Seriously, please, to save the dignity of the human race.. Get out your house for a minute and feel the sunlight on your skin.. People might actually talk to you in real life then Official broker at the EvE Galactic Stock Exchange
maGz The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.27 21:12:00 - [33] Originally by: Ferrosa wow, you have a ventrilo server... Now everyone wants to be your friend.. Seriously, please, to save the dignity of the human race.. Get out your house for a minute and feel the sunlight on your skin.. People might actually talk to you in real life then QFT. Plz CCP ban him again + his alt this time. I think they majority of the forum-community has had more than enough of Rast and his constant attention-whoring. ________________ The Priory Killboard
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.27 23:58:00 - [34] Originally by: Dentara Rast Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Kieli Rast service includes website design public relations entrapment evasion screenshot editing false documentation actors for teamspeak verification actors for real life communications Like I said a few days back, your screenie is a fake, and unless you open a trade window with me and show the ISK, your 'biggest scam' will be making people believe you actually stole more than you did. I guess you will never know then Somehow, I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it. And your sig is off, you forgot about the 4th kind of person: "Those who don't care it happened".
Dentara Rast Satan's Plague	Posted - 2006.08.28 02:07:00 - [35] im a little dissapointed that the ISD decided to delete the details for the ventrillo server as it was intended to be there to allow people to be abusive towards me without getting themselves hit with a banzor stick for putting it on the forum... Oh well nevermind Ferrosa, outsmarted again (I hope ). you will learn for next time. "There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder WHAT happened"...
Serpico Ripley	Posted - 2006.08.28 03:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Dentara Rast Discussing forum moderation is a no-no. If you have any questions email us at [email protected] Tirg Oh well nevermind Ferrosa, outsmarted again (I hope ). snipped for trolling- Tirg
Cmdr Baxter Caldari Skunk Works Corp. C O I N Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.28 03:40:00 - [37] Files request for thread to be closed We've had enough discussion over the E.I.B., I believe, to last for quite a while. The last thing we need is more flaming and open debate over this topic.
Agarttha Quantum Tech Mining	Posted - 2006.08.28 18:23:00 - [38] i think it's great that Eve-Online has a "real" Arch-Villain/Kingpin. too bad our heroes fail. and keep failing. Who is John Galt?
Marodi Julita	Posted - 2006.08.28 19:37:00 - [39] you guys are pathetic for attacking him. he played the game, wether it be the way you want to or not. Anyone that is scared of investing cause of this shouldn't be investing. (assuming you dont invest cause of fear not cause of loss of ISK This isn't a post for defense of him, but it's pathetic to see everyone squabbling about what he did. (note: i view his actions as more of a theft than a scam)
Dr Slurm	Posted - 2006.08.28 20:51:00 - [40] Edited by: Dr Slurm on 28/08/2006 20:51:20 Originally by: Dentara Rast "There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder WHAT happened"... And those that sell YOUR body for fun :) Click above to find out more
Kage Getsu Lordless Unbrella Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.29 04:01:00 - [41] If you're going to invest in something, go buy some tickets for the Dentara Rast corpse raffle linked in my signature. At least that's a worthy cause. Own a piece of the biggest scammer in EVE history!
Shenala Grenutra principle of motion R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:20:00 - [42] I think we should all take a good hard look at the r/l examples when it is related to fraud, because that's what this is: Fraud. Some CEOs and their crownies committed a crime and they are/will be /should have been punished for it. Rast, OTH, is not being punished. AND he continues to trash talk. I don't read the forums often and he is a good reason why. Also, has anyone noticed he continues to be edited by Tirg?
Agarttha Quantum Tech Mining	Posted - 2006.08.30 00:48:00 - [43] the thing about Arch-Villains, or Kingpins, or any Great.Evil.Bad.Guy is you have to beat them. talking about their reputation or their "crimes" is an impotent means of "winning". it only adds to their credibility as Notorious Gangsters. personally, i think the EIB scam is a work of art. it really was a beautiful con. bad language and all. i cant help but appreciate it. it was exceptionally well-executed. you can nit-pick details all you want, but the fact is it worked well. the speculation that actual monies were never stolen and that the scam itself might be a scam is brilliant. and beautiful--for a con. since we have no heroes in this game; heroes who create a >different< kind of beauty--one founded on integrity and character, instead of manipulation and lies--Mr. Rast will have to do by default. his sincerity to be the best Villain in Eve is to be believed. His absolute commitment and courage to lie, cheat and steal takes more courage than you think. a criminal flouts the law, and then when caught asks forgiveness or claims innocence; an Outlaw never asks forgiveness and takes it on the chin. thats the difference. it's obvious which kind Kieli is. too bad nobody is willing to stand up for what they believe in except him. i dont see anybody stopping him until that happens. i wish there was somebody who could take down Kieli. not just kill him in Pvp and sell his corpse. I mean really take him down in EVE. That would be beautiful to watch. I hope I'm not the only one... Who is John Galt?
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.08.31 17:50:00 - [44] Yeh, most of the "good" guys in eve spend their time whining on forums about e-crime and e-morals, then run away when someone bad enters local ;)
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.31 23:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Yeh, most of the "good" guys in eve spend their time whining on forums about e-crime and e-morals, then run away when someone bad enters local ;) Made me LOL. Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)

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