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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:03:23 -
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I can understand the system, and this is not a problem that guys do it. But give them back a way to become clever !
The answer is : -10 of security statue. As simple as that. Let them choose then wisely their target and get ready to have ships in low sec to work on their security statue to have it back.
The actual system is too easy regarding the aftermath, and become a real business. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:19:14 -
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WatGäó
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:28:01 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:WatGäó
http://i.imgur.com/1EPBQmT.jpg
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:54:03 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:I can understand the system, and this is not a problem that guys do it. But give them back a way to become clever !
The answer is : -10 of security statue. As simple as that. Let them choose then wisely their target and get ready to have ships in low sec to work on their security statue to have it back.
The actual system is too easy regarding the aftermath, and become a real business.
We can talk for a -7.5, but idea it to put them out of high sec for a while.
Whatever you're smoking, you need to share with the rest of us so we can try to understand whatever the hell that post is.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:00:18 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:I can understand the system, and this is not a problem that guys do it. But give them back a way to become clever !
The answer is : -10 of security statue. As simple as that. Let them choose then wisely their target and get ready to have ships in low sec to work on their security statue to have it back.
The actual system is too easy regarding the aftermath, and become a real business.
We can talk for a -7.5, but idea it to put them out of high sec for a while.
Oiras? Is that you? We thought you were ded brah.
F
Would you like to know more?
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Revis Owen
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:05:55 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:I can understand the system, and this is not a problem that guys do it. . . .
Says he doesn't have a problem with suicide gankers, then demonstrates he has a problem with suicide gankers.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:13:31 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:I can understand the system, and this is not a problem that guys do it. But give them back a way to become clever !
The answer is : -10 of security statue. As simple as that. Let them choose then wisely their target and get ready to have ships in low sec to work on their security statue to have it back.
The actual system is too easy regarding the aftermath, and become a real business.
We can talk for a -7.5, but idea it to put them out of high sec for a while. Oiras? Is that you? We thought you were ded brah. F
 he swaped toon for a while but i haven't seen nor heard him in months.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:45:26 -
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I got no issue with suicide gankers, I got an issue with the actual penalty to do it. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:56:44 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Grr image thief 
You're forgiven though, it's an appropriate use.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:58:33 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Grr image thief You're forgiven though, it's an appropriate use.
Why it it appropriate ? |
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:59:23 -
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Because you can't seem to post a coherent thought.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:01:45 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Why it it appropriate ? Because the OP made absolutely no sense, and is therefore full of WatGäó
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:03:50 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Because you can't seem to post a coherent thought.
What you don't understand ? I can explain if needed, seems you need explanations :
If players descover new way to have fun and make suicide ganks, this is really good. The thing is : It has to be more challanging.
Actually there is nothing hard to do it and it requires low skills. You can stay with a penalty of : -2.5 of sec statue in high sec, farm missions and stay kinda as you want in high sec.
Now imagine this : If you want to do suicide gank, it has to be juicy, something you will remember, and then, it will push you to play in low sec for a while.
As simple as that.
The actual system makes suicide gankers making like a business with no challange at all. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:07:11 -
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Suicide ganking is only easy when the target makes it easy.
The victim only see's the actual gank squad, they never see the behind the scenes organisation that goes into a successful suicide gank.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:09:23 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Suicide ganking is only easy when the target makes it easy.
Suicide gank is easy in every case, every case. If you want bigger target you just need to be more, and there is nothing complicated in evolving high sec to choose your target.
In eve, every time you want to earn more you have to take risks, there is no risks trough suicide ganking. |
Domino Vyse
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:10:43 -
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I'm -10 and can suicide gank whenever I like, just need a prober alt. |
Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:14:23 -
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Really ? Explain me how with a -10 security statue you can stay in high sec ?
Players with -2.0 or worse will be attacked in 1.0 systems
Players with -2.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.9 systems
Players with -3.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.8 systems
Players with -3.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.7 systems
Players with -4.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.6 systems
Players with -4.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.5 systems
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Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:24:06 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Really ? Explain me how with a -10 security statue you can stay in high sec ?
Undock warp to instant undock -> warp to ping from target -> warp to target and kill them -> wait for concord to kill me |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:26:26 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Suicide ganking is only easy when the target makes it easy.
Suicide gank is easy in every case, every case. Bullshit.
You've never suicide ganked have you?
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:27:44 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Really ? Explain me how with a -10 security statue you can stay in high sec ?
Players with -2.0 or worse will be attacked in 1.0 systems
Players with -2.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.9 systems
Players with -3.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.8 systems
Players with -3.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.7 systems
Players with -4.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.6 systems
Players with -4.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.5 systems
By moving, constantly while not in a station.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:28:10 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Suicide ganking is only easy when the target makes it easy.
Suicide gank is easy in every case, every case. Bullshit. You've never suicide ganked have you?
Yes and it is easy. Get better scrub |
Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:29:14 -
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Eldwinn wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Really ? Explain me how with a -10 security statue you can stay in high sec ?
Undock warp to instant undock -> warp to ping from target -> warp to target and kill them -> wait for concord to kill me
Only possible in 0.5, not higher
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Suicide gank is easy in every case, every case.
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Bullshit.
You've never suicide ganked have you?
////// Bullshit, what is hard to suicide gank ?
/---------> Edit : May I have to explain how easy it was when Markee dragon took a bunch of new players to make catalyst suicde gank and how fast he did money ? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:30:49 -
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Eldwinn wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Suicide ganking is only easy when the target makes it easy.
Suicide gank is easy in every case, every case. Bullshit. You've never suicide ganked have you? Yes and it is easy. Get better scrub
I doubt it's easy in every case.
aware bears use dscan, watch local, and generally ARE skittish.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:32:20 -
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Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Really ? Explain me how with a -10 security statue you can stay in high sec ?
Undock warp to instant undock -> warp to ping from target -> warp to target and kill them -> wait for concord to kill me Only possible in 0.5, not higher
Explain this.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:34:16 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Suicide ganking is only easy when the target makes it easy.
Suicide gank is easy in every case, every case. Bullshit. You've never suicide ganked have you? Yes and it is easy. Get better scrub I doubt it's easy in every case. aware bears use dscan, watch local, and generally ARE skittish.
I edited my post but i will say it again : We had demonstrations that it is really accessible to the first one. Are you serious when you speak about D-scan for a gate camp in high sec ? Let me laugh.
It can be "hard" to retrive the loot quickly only, but it is not hard to warp on a safe quickly... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:37:51 -
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No you would use a scout for that.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:39:30 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Amra Ni-Yesta wrote:Really ? Explain me how with a -10 security statue you can stay in high sec ?
Undock warp to instant undock -> warp to ping from target -> warp to target and kill them -> wait for concord to kill me Only possible in 0.5, not higher Explain this.
Concord reaction is slow in low high sec, and react really really fast up to 0.8 I don't think the guy who use insta undock and warp to point have time to stay alive near 0.8 and higher with a -4.5 and more security statue.
Only in pod, maybe i missed the pod suicide gank... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:42:55 -
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[quote=Amra Ni-Yesta]I don't think [/quot
Pertinent word there.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Amra Ni-Yesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:44:31 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:No you would use a scout for that.
The fact is not to speak about how to avoid or not suicide gank. This is not the point of my thread.
The point is : With a reall low penalty like we have now, the frequency of suide gank is too high and there is no challange for poeple who do them. The aftermath of it is not ballance compare to what you can get. |
Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:47:05 -
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OP what exactly are you suggesting then as a solution? Unfortunately I do not speak whatever you are trying to say. |
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