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Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 21:57:56 -
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Hi there,
When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.
I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!
However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.
These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.
I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.
but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.
Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!
I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.
I love you all fellow Capsuleers,
Fly safe o7 |

Paranoid Loyd
2531
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:00:46 -
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Won't somebody think of the carebear who only plays by himself!
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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stoicfaux
5394
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:03:37 -
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Look, this is EVE and EVE is real. Role-playing isn't real. Meta-playing *is* real. You don't role-play in EVE, you meta-play.
The jump changes fit in with EVE's meta-playing lore, so there is no "LORE" problem with EVE.
If you want to "role-play" (i.e. pretend to play) EVE, then go create an EVE LARP.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
473
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:05:52 -
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???
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com
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May Arethusa
PillowBrigade Inc Heiian Conglomerate
21
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:06:30 -
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Space got more dense, just like I did reading this. It made jumping harder. Like swimming through treacle.
I'd blame this god chap the Amarrians keep harping on about, I'm told he works in mysterious yet supposedly glorious ways. |

Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
337
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:07:57 -
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Child Soldier wrote:Hi there,
When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.
I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!
However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.
These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.
I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.
but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.
Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!
I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.
I love you all fellow Capsuleers,
Fly safe o7
*Nods*
Well said, well said. |

Arla Sarain
99
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:09:20 -
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Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE. |

Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:11:49 -
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Thomas Hurt wrote:Child Soldier wrote:Hi there,
When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.
I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!
However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.
These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.
I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.
but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.
Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!
I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.
I love you all fellow Capsuleers,
Fly safe o7 *Nods* Well said, well said.
Hi Thomas,
its good to hear from you again. i thought you had quit not too long ago. i miss you and our bi-weekly RP sessions. hit me up soon?
please spread the word of this noble cause.
o7 |

Terra Jaynara
Pecuniam Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:12:29 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Look, this is EVE and EVE is real. Role-playing isn't real. Meta-playing *is* real. You don't role-play in EVE, you meta-play.
The jump changes fit in with EVE's meta-playing lore, so there is no "LORE" problem with EVE.
If you want to "role-play" (i.e. pretend to play) EVE, then go create an EVE LARP.
Roleplaying might not be real for *you* but it is an integral part of this game for many of us. Just because you don't play a certain way doesn't mean that way is wrong. EVE is a *SANDBOX* and we all build sand castles differently. 
I, for one, agree with the OP. I don't spend hours reading and rereading EVE Chronicles just to have all of this tossed aside just because the Nullbears have Null brains and can't play this game without making it unfun. 
I don't think it's too much to ask for those of us that have invested in the backstory of this game (that you all benefit from, whether you realize it or not) to have some explanation for why suddenly our jump drives started making us tired. 
-Terra Jaynara |

Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
337
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:12:55 -
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Child Soldier wrote:Thomas Hurt wrote:Child Soldier wrote:Hi there,
When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.
I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!
However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.
These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.
I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.
but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.
Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!
I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.
I love you all fellow Capsuleers,
Fly safe o7 *Nods* Well said, well said. Hi Thomas, its good to hear from you again. i thought you had quit not too long ago. i miss you and our bi-weekly RP sessions. hit me up soon? please spread the word of this noble cause. o7
No worries, sounds good. I had a bit of a row with the wife because she claimed cybersex RP was 'emotional cheating', but I explained that almost all female characters were actually men and long story short we're Poly now. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6546
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:14:07 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE. Ccp will kill eve.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Aapir
Hole Violence
7
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:16:54 -
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Adapt or die  |

Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:19:03 -
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Aapir wrote:Adapt or die 
i find this hostility very scary my friend. please cease & desist or i will be authorised to use lethal force.
cant we all just get along?
o7 |

stoicfaux
5396
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:19:06 -
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May Arethusa wrote:Space got more dense, just like I did reading this. It made jumping harder. Like swimming through treacle.
I'd blame this god chap the Amarrians keep harping on about, I'm told he works in mysterious yet supposedly glorious ways. That god chap is displeased with the Amarrians. The loss of the Minmatar, the inability to bring the Gallente and Caldari into the fold, letting Sansha barge into Amarr space at will, zero sleeper conversions, and the drifting away from using the purifying light of god (i.e. lasers) seen in the increase in drone and missile based Amarr hulls, has caused god chap to put limits on jump ranges as a "subtle" way of telling the Amarr that they need to slow down, consolidate, and take the time to get their **** together. Preferably before god chap feel the need to be less subtle...
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS.
2515
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:20:00 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE. For like 2 or 3 weeks maybe.... a month or two on the outside. That community has been complaining of a lack of content for a while. Don't get me wrong, core gameplay is amazing, but you can only do the same dogfight so many times... |

stoicfaux
5396
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:20:34 -
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Aapir wrote:Adapt or die  Adapt or die in game.
FTFY, but not before your perma-ban for making real life threats. 
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Dagoth Fett
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:21:56 -
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The lore behind jump drive mechanics was the thread that bound my disparate headmates together across the vast and lonely reaches of the New Eden Star Cluster. I need the official word on these changes so I can update my fics.  |

Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:25:20 -
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Dagoth Fett wrote:The lore behind jump drive mechanics was the thread that bound my disparate headmates together across the vast and lonely reaches of the New Eden Star Cluster. I need the official word on these changes so I can update my fics. 
I would definitely be interested in learning your opinions on this matter and hope we can come up with some socially acceptable space lore that answers all these questions to the best of our ability.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2937
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:26:11 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE. Ccp will kill eve.
We will kill Eve.
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Dagoth Fett
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:31:09 -
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Child Soldier wrote:Dagoth Fett wrote:The lore behind jump drive mechanics was the thread that bound my disparate headmates together across the vast and lonely reaches of the New Eden Star Cluster. I need the official word on these changes so I can update my fics.  I would definitely be interested in learning your opinions on this matter and hope we can come up with some socially acceptable space lore that answers all these questions to the best of our ability.
Oh trust me when I say I've submitted a great many internally-consistent proposals to the entire CCP chain of command (as well as the CSM (as well several prominent video game journalists)). I would share some of them openly, but I believe they are now under NDA. |

stoicfaux
5396
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:32:57 -
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Terra Jaynara wrote:Roleplaying might not be real for *you* but it is an integral part of this game for many of us. Just because you don't play a certain way doesn't mean that way is wrong. EVE is a *SANDBOX* and we all build sand castles differently.  I, for one, agree with the OP. I don't spend hours reading and rereading EVE Chronicles just to have all of this tossed aside just because the Nullbears have Null brains and can't play this game without making it unfun.  I don't think it's too much to ask for those of us that have invested in the backstory of this game (that you all benefit from, whether you realize it or not) to have some explanation for why suddenly our jump drives started making us tired.  -Terra Jaynara I've found it too painful to even keep trying. The best I recommend is that * CONCORD did it. They already put limits on various Empire technologies via their uber-magic. * EVE's Occupational Health and Safety Agency discovered that the previous jump ranges were causing space cancer (or something) in ship crews, and have restricted jump ranges accordingly. * Pirate Faction research into advanced warp/jump technology has disrupted the fabric of space to the point that jumping now causes dreadful migraines in capsuleers (and their crews.) * Alternately, the increased number of wormholes is symptomatic of disruptions in the fabric of space and this degradation has reduced jump ranges. We should probably investigate that. * There was that one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where warp travel was breaking down space which lead to a planet becoming effectively off-grid due to a needed warp travel ban to avoid causing local space to explode.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:36:03 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Terra Jaynara wrote:Roleplaying might not be real for *you* but it is an integral part of this game for many of us. Just because you don't play a certain way doesn't mean that way is wrong. EVE is a *SANDBOX* and we all build sand castles differently.  I, for one, agree with the OP. I don't spend hours reading and rereading EVE Chronicles just to have all of this tossed aside just because the Nullbears have Null brains and can't play this game without making it unfun.  I don't think it's too much to ask for those of us that have invested in the backstory of this game (that you all benefit from, whether you realize it or not) to have some explanation for why suddenly our jump drives started making us tired.  -Terra Jaynara I've found it too painful to even keep trying. The best I recommend is that * CONCORD did it. They already put limits on various Empire technologies via their uber-magic. * EVE's Occupational Health and Safety Agency discovered that the previous jump ranges were causing space cancer (or something) in ship crews, and have restricted jump ranges accordingly. * Pirate Faction research into advanced warp/jump technology has disrupted the fabric of space to the point that jumping now causes dreadful migraines in capsuleers (and their crews.) * Alternately, the increased number of wormholes is symptomatic of disruptions in the fabric of space and this degradation has reduced jump ranges. We should probably investigate that. * There was that one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where warp travel was breaking down space which lead to a planet becoming effectively off-grid due to a needed warp travel ban to avoid causing local space to explode.
these are all valid reasonings,
the closest explanation i have to this would be some form of cloning issue with the technology used that has gone wrong & resulted in some form of THE JOVIAN DISEASE aka space-bola that induces cooldown timers of travel sickness. |

Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:37:56 -
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oops |

epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1337
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:38:34 -
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May Arethusa wrote:Space got more dense, just like I did reading this. It made jumping harder. Like swimming through treacle.
I'd blame this god chap the Amarrians keep harping on about, I'm told he works in mysterious yet supposedly glorious ways.
No, it was BOB through his agents in the Kingdom of fire and Ice, taking out his revenge on the unbelievers who were spiteful to his accolytes when the hammer of hyperion landed, and now in his infinite mercy he is blessing his beloved wormholers with new space where they can harry and torment them from blessed Thera.
Those who are enlightened and wish to enter his all encompassing kingdom, may enter this new space soon and worship him close to their shrunken kingdoms of man.
Blessed be BOB
Ps, Thanks fozzie, and thanks to your team, EVE looks like it is really coming back to life in a big way.
[u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
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Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:40:22 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:May Arethusa wrote:Space got more dense, just like I did reading this. It made jumping harder. Like swimming through treacle.
I'd blame this god chap the Amarrians keep harping on about, I'm told he works in mysterious yet supposedly glorious ways. No, it was BOB through his agents in the Kingdom of fire and Ice, taking out his revenge on the unbelievers who were spiteful to his accolytes when the hammer of hyperion landed, and now in his infinite mercy he is blessing his beloved wormholers with new space where they can harry and torment them from blessed Thera. Those who are enlightened and wish to enter his all encompassing kingdom, may enter this new space soon and worship him close to their shrunken kingdoms of man. Blessed be BOB Ps, Thanks fozzie, and thanks to your team, EVE looks like it is really coming back to life in a big way.
Fozzie may have helped you, but he is ruining everything i love in this god given game. |

Dagoth Fett
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:41:59 -
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I think we have to prepare ourselves for the very real possibility that the Jovian Plague has "jumped the gap" to capsuleers. That's why the Jove went into hiding, in the hope that they could prevent this eventuality. That's why the sisters are so involved in wormhole space. That's why this mysterious new "fatigue" is associated with increased sleeper activity in kspace.
It all makes sense.
It all makes so much sense.
CCP, in their wisdom, when it finally comes time for Eve to Die, can tell us all we've succumbed to the Plague thanks to too much jumping (either first or second-hand jumping) to give us a lore-friendly way to kill the game. |

May Arethusa
PillowBrigade Inc Heiian Conglomerate
21
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:45:58 -
[27] - Quote
A news story about how cheeky medical facility technicians galaxy-wide have made every new clone terribly obese, resulting in heavier pods, meaning jump drives are unable to cope with the additional strain.
Maybe someone recalculated the formula for jump drive mechanics, found someone had added 50% by mistake, and it wasn't until the mistake was discovered that "quantum stuff" happened (insert science here) and everything was how it should be.
I mean, the reason doesn't really matter that much, but I can understand why people might want an explanation. The problem is, with the new update schedule things change all the time, and all you'd end up with is a constant stream of poorly written fiction to explain why things happen.
Would you expect this kind of detail from ship/module rebalancing? I doubt it. You're roleplaying, use your imagination, maybe it's all some big conspiracy. |

Commentus Nolen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:52:13 -
[28] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Terra Jaynara wrote:Roleplaying might not be real for *you* but it is an integral part of this game for many of us. Just because you don't play a certain way doesn't mean that way is wrong. EVE is a *SANDBOX* and we all build sand castles differently.  I, for one, agree with the OP. I don't spend hours reading and rereading EVE Chronicles just to have all of this tossed aside just because the Nullbears have Null brains and can't play this game without making it unfun.  I don't think it's too much to ask for those of us that have invested in the backstory of this game (that you all benefit from, whether you realize it or not) to have some explanation for why suddenly our jump drives started making us tired.  -Terra Jaynara I've found it too painful to even keep trying. The best I recommend is that * CONCORD did it. They already put limits on various Empire technologies via their uber-magic. * EVE's Occupational Health and Safety Agency discovered that the previous jump ranges were causing space cancer (or something) in ship crews, and have restricted jump ranges accordingly. * Pirate Faction research into advanced warp/jump technology has disrupted the fabric of space to the point that jumping now causes dreadful migraines in capsuleers (and their crews.) * Alternately, the increased number of wormholes is symptomatic of disruptions in the fabric of space and this degradation has reduced jump ranges. We should probably investigate that. * There was that one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where warp travel was breaking down space which lead to a planet becoming effectively off-grid due to a needed warp travel ban to avoid causing local space to explode.
All this long distant jumping is destabilizing sub space and risks destroying the universe in a cataclysmic event called the Spiral Nemesis.
"Simon please remove your hand!"
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5638
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Posted - 2014.11.07 22:57:41 -
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I'm not reading this thread. I don't even want to post in it.
Edit: aw crap
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:01:48 -
[30] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'm not reading this thread. I don't even want to post in it.
Edit: aw crap
the fact you posted means you emphasise with the cause. |
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