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Gnicklas
Heretical Innovations
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Posted - 2014.11.10 06:38:18 -
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Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Comes out to around 280 DPS from the missiles and then 660-680 adding sentries or heavy drones.
Cap stable, slow as hell but the missiles reach anywhere.
IT'S THE AMARR SHIP I ALWAYS WANTED AFTER I LEARNED TO FLY AN ARBITRATOR
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
6510
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Posted - 2014.11.10 07:20:29 -
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........ I'm going to go on a limb here and assume that you are a relative newbie.
Because DAT FIT!!!!!!
Please tell me you have some armor tanking skills. 
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Odithia
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.10 10:48:09 -
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Train Gallente Battleship lvl4. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.11.10 13:12:26 -
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You obviously missed my recent post about Cap Flux Coils. There exists no situation in the game where their use is actually beneficial, at least not one that I've found.
I admire your notion of a shield-tanked, missile-spewing, Amarrian drone boat and I've toyed with such a build myself. The 'Geddon is a remarkably versatile ship, and it's easily one of my favorite to fly. However, I feel your execution is rather lacking.
1. You committed the #1 sin of mission running builds and built for cap stability. No no no. Generally speaking, higher DPS will keep you alive longer than a better tank because you can reduce incoming DPS faster.
2. You've focused your damage where your ship isn't strongest. Using drone damage mods will provide better DPS because they will stack beneficially with the drone damage bonus of the hull. Think of the launchers on your 'Geddon as secondary weapons. (Not to mention, they use less CPU and you're going to be tight on that.)
3. Your sentry drone usage will be limited by range, which seems a shame given the range on your launchers. You will either need one or more Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancers in your lows, or, if you decide to switch to an armor tank, Omnidirectional Tracking Links in your mids. (Side note: A Dominix would come in handy here because of it's drone range bonus, but it lacks the ability to fit launchers.)
4. If you're going to stick with the shield tank, consider switching to an ancillary XL booster. You have a large cargo hold and some issues with cap stability, use the former to help out with the latter. (I personally don't like them for missions, but others I know swear by them.)
5. Consider fitting a large Energy Vampire or two. With the 'Geddon's range bonus, and the fact that NPC ships have unlimited cap, that could go a long way towards helping with your cap issues.
Assuming perfect fitting skills and T1 weapons (based on your post) and catering to a laser-based mission, this is what I come up with:
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
X-Large Clarity Ward Booster I
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I
'Arbalest' Cruiser Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruiser Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruiser Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruiser Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruiser Launcher I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Drones, missiles, hardeners, and rigs to suit. Rig ideas could include shield (increase resists, decrease booster cap usage, etc.), cap regen, etc. I'd shy away from missile rigs due to the CPU issues.
It all fits with 0.25 CPU to spare, will tank 402 incoming DPS for a bit over 3 minutes (barely 2 without the NOS), and does 826 DPS out to 30km assuming Garde Is and faction missiles. Range/damage tradeoff changes with sentry drone selection, and your damage potential goes up considerably with T2 heavy and sentry drones.
Is this the ideal mission runner? Not really. It's slow, all but requires T2 large drones to reach full damage potential, and your tanking options are severely limited. The armor tanking fit that ShahFluffers came up with above is far more practical. But it could be really fun, and it's hard to deny that the 'Geddon is one cool looking ship to run missions in.
Let us know how it works out.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
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Gnicklas
Heretical Innovations
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Posted - 2014.11.10 20:27:50 -
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Oh you guys.
I was incredibly bored barely surviving inc DPS from large encounters in level 4 missions with an armor tank (maxed out skills in that department), this active shield tank while a slow boat has never run into trouble yet can tank roughly 500-900 DPS depending on the faction attacking.
I had previously specialized exclusively in Large Pulse lasers and melting everything but am currently finishing off my drone and missile skills and this is just a fun way to try out the Amarrian changes.
Thank you all for your suggestions my only regret is not fitting a MWD. |
Gnicklas
Heretical Innovations
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Posted - 2014.11.10 20:47:45 -
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Also:
A lot of the tech I gear is there solely for the CPU requirements. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6651
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Posted - 2014.11.10 21:51:13 -
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... on a related note, our resident Dr Fronkenstein* made a 1500 dps baddon that goes 2000ms...
*if you don't get this your dead inside
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
6514
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Posted - 2014.11.10 22:22:23 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:... on a related note, our resident Dr Fr onkenstein* made a 1500 dps baddon that goes 2000ms...
*frysquints*
... challenge accepted!!
*fiddles with EFT*
Dear god...
[Abaddon, WAT IS DIS??]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Large Auxiliary Thrusters II
Large Auxiliary Thrusters II
Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Ogre II x3
Full set of high-grade Snakes + Zor's Custom Nav Hyperlink + max skilled warfare links
~1700 m/sec
~1200 dps @15km (~700 dps @ 45kms with Scorch and no drones)
~ 80k ehp
~ 11 second align time (~16 seconds with the MWD on)
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6651
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Posted - 2014.11.10 22:48:35 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:... on a related note, our resident Dr Fr onkenstein* made a 1500 dps baddon that goes 2000ms... *frysquints* ... challenge accepted!!*fiddles with EFT* Dear god... [Abaddon, WAT IS DIS??]
It's Alive!
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Gnicklas
Heretical Innovations
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Posted - 2014.11.11 07:03:11 -
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Ugh someone made a Ni-Kunni that looks older than me. |
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Luwc
Confederation of Independent Contractors
Swamphole
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:07:03 -
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> Join **** Corp
> Get told you stuff needs to be crapstable
> wonder why your stuff is ****
> quit game.
pls look for proper fits.
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Gnicklas
Heretical Innovations
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:29:13 -
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I walked through Worlds Collide with no alarms so.. |
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