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Someone asked why I think the Bowhead could stand a shade more EHP

shield/armor/hull

10750/6900/46000 orca

21000 / 11000 / 39500 bowhead

90000/30000/250000 rorqual

14000/40000/110000 obelisk

It depends on how you look at it and where you think it fits in the spectrum of ships, I suppose. If it fits capital rigs then I would assume that it will have the structure to hold them and then the hull needs some thickening. If it is a distant cousin of the Orca then I would say the cap rigs are inappropriate.

Some of you have compared it to the Rorqual (poor things really need to be looked to) but it is no where near it in tank.

So I ask, who is the Bowhead closest to and how does its tank/structure compare with theirs? If it is flying as a capital level freighter then it should be tanked accordingly. If it is not then change the rigs and we can discuss it vis a vis the Orca

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Not yet.

Things people are waiting for answers to:

1) Will this ship cause modifications to plastic wrapping ships in courier contracts?
- a) Will we be able to haul plastic wrapped ships in the Bowhead?
- b) Will plastic wrapped ships still be courier-able via freighters and other ships

2) SMA or SMB?
- a) Will this ship have a Ship Maintenance Array (P.O.S. Module that holds both packaged and unpackaged ships and also allows you to assemble ships inside it.)?
- b) or a Ship Maintenance Bay (Like every other ship that holds ships)

3) Will we be able to board and load ships to/from this vessel in space?

4) Will we be able to refit ships in space using this ship?



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this will probably be my only contribution to this topic, so i will try to sum up my thoughts on this as concisely as possible.

1. usefulness: given that the hull cost will probably be in the billions and the complementary skill will be a long train.

i am eager to hear of use cases where you would need to haul rigged hulls in hisec so badly that you invest ten digits and a month of training time into it.

advanced spaceship command V.

you state that the bowhead will have similar to the freighters on the test server the bpo has been seeded with a placeholder and the component parts have had there ammounts changed but it still states that it uses capital cargo bay

now im no ccp or csm but a ship with only 4000m3 cargo bay wouldnt use capital cargo bays but with its 1.3mill m3 ship maintenance bay by my reasoning would use capital ship maintenance bay

is the bpo corret or has it just not been changed from the placeholder if so what els you changing like skills etc


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nothing wrong with getting ahead of the mases sisi is open to all if they dnt want to log in and look thats there loss

The bowhead is now available on Sisi (at least the stats and model are in the game now - not sure if it's seeded yet) as of this morning*. Gorgeous hunk of hauler that it is.

*Or at least I only just noticed it was there this morning.

I just did some quick math.

If you estimate the average price of a ship is 200mil (which should roughly account for either battleships or t2 cruisers) then you would have to move over 5k ships to be in the trillion mark. Is this the number of ships that people need to win wars these days? (honest question)

Its in this thread in a dev post when they where trying to determine what tank should go on it. CCP asked what tank would be reasonable to haul 3 t1 bs with t2 fittings, then a dev post or 2 later they upped the tank to what it is now.

It gets more tank than the other freighters.

More slots for more tank mods and rigs. T2 fit will net you 85k more ehp than a bulkhead freighter.

It doesnt matter if its split what matters is the total buffer. You can get 700k ehp with the bowhead for just 300 mil isk.

Will it have refitting service?

It's may be already asked, sorry but i'm confused !

Is that Bowhead a Jump Freighter or just a freighter ?

If it's a simple freighter, what his role bonus "90% reduction in jump fatigue generation" is for ?

Implants.

Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so.

If incursion runners are to be believed a good few will have implants like this.

There is no jump drive.

Then where does the Role Bonus come in.
90% reduction in jump fatigue generation

Hey Rise, for those of us with CRS (Cannot Remember S***), does this mean Bowhead bpo will be available only in ORE space?

(sincerely apologize if this has been mentioned earlier)

To be honest, I feel the cargohold is a bit lacking.
The most applied use of this ship is going to be for personal movement from system to system.

I would like to see the cargo capacity in the minimum of 30k range.key word here being MINIMUM!!!

That way you can carry a reasonable amount of supplies in it as well.
Where else am I gonna put my 800 cap boosters?

Keep dreaming.

Utterly Pitiful idea.

3 BS at maxed skills....really???.

Expand the SMA to be able to carry half a fleets worth of BS and then maybe it's worth the effort of training skills and actually buying one for a Corp, other than that Gankers would have more fun holding a BS pilot to ransom and having him eject.

Corps once had a perfectly good ship transport, they were called 'Carriers', but someone decided these had to be nerfed to the point they became useless for that task so now there relegated to PoS repping and defense, Seems CCP's blind desperation has finally come to this, Spending weeks designing and specifying an utterly useless ship design, might as well dress it with a shoot here sign for all it's worth.

Removed a spam post.

Same place you get the orca from.

No NPC orders in Citadel.

Reading the descrip, I was hoping for a mobile ship builder...sigh...my dream of a quasi-migrant fleet ruined again