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Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 20:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 26/08/2006 20:46:16 Today the Serpantis criminals tried to steal a Nyx from the Federation Navy in Luminaire. CONCORD quickly sent out a distress call to which hundreds of pilots responded, but the Mothership was able to escape Gallente space and made it to PFP-GU. CONCORD inspectors then tried to rally a fleet together in Stacmon to stop the Serpantis criminals, but before the fleet could leave, Goonswarm and 3FA engaged and destoryed the Nyx. Instead of being happy the fiends had been stopped, the hastily assembled fleet was angry that they didn't get a piece of the action, and turned on the CONCORD insepectors. These people are traitors and should be punished harsly. They even had audacity to brag about their deeds. I say they should be expelled from Empire space, and be forced to fend for themselves in 0.0. A partial list of the traitors can be found here I was one of those who responded to the original call to arms in Luminaire and even lost a Typhoon as a reward for my efforts, and I attempted to re-join the fleet to attack it again. Even though I was dissapointed that I wouldn't get revenge, the actions taken by these traitors are unthinkable to me. ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.26 20:40:00 - [2] Totally unneeded agression to turn on the CONCORD. Perhaps they should be expelled if that is how they act in combat.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:20:00 - [3] Haha, Concord: 0 Angrymob: 1 If only i could have been there. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:29:00 - [4] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Haha, Concord: 0 Angrymob: 1 If only i could have been there. It was greeaaaattt Plays with his fresh Concord Corpse --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:29:00 - [5] [19:42:20] Inspector Ronier > Our rally point is Stacmon, Come quickly and you will be rewarded. CONCORD promised a reward to those who rallied in Stacmon. Those who rallied in Stacmon received no such reward. While I did not actually fire upon the CONCORD personnel, it is clear that CONCORD are the ones at fault, not the mob that they created. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Geistkonig	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:46:00 - [6] Edited by: Geistkonig on 26/08/2006 21:49:28 Edited by: Geistkonig on 26/08/2006 21:46:55 The simple truth is that CONCORD panicked, and abused the combat-readiness capabilites of the gang of pod pilots who responded to the Inspectors' wild hysterics in local. Action was promised, yet none was had (with the exception of the GoonFleet). Rewards were also promised, yet none were given to (most of) those who responded to CONCORD's call. Thus, we pod pilots took matters into our own hands. All CONCORD officers involved in this embarassment should be dishonorably discharged for creating, and subsequently losing control of, a massive disturbance of the peace. These CONCORD officers recklessly endangered their own lives, and the lives of innocent bystanders, by creating an angry mob and then not taking the appropriate crowd-control measures. Any number of stray shots fired by CONCORD could have pierced the nearby Station's hull during the fight and resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians. Furthermore, where were the local CONCORD authorities to be found while this incident was taking place? Why did they not come to the aid of their fellow law-enforcers? Sources state that they were all 'occupied' at the time, in a private suite on Stacmon II injecting Mindflood and cavorting with the local Exotic Dancers. For shame, CONCORD! Let this serve as a lesson to all other upholders of the law as a lesson in what not to do in the time of an emergency. (OOC Note: Aurora guys did a great job with the whole thing in the end by not wimping out/warping away, my last sentence is entirely from a roleplaying perspective) Edit Shifted a few paragrahps around... much better now. Edit #2 Fixed a few words... my first time RPing, bear with me. --- Menschliches, allzumenschliches.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:48:00 - [7] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 26/08/2006 21:49:27 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Haha, Concord: 0 Angrymob: 1 If only i could have been there. You wouldn't consider the successful destruction of that Nyx to be a point for CONCORD? Such a shame to see so many pilots turn on CONCORD just because things didn't go their way. It's pretty clear that if you had gathered quickly, and moved, your reward would've been the Nyx's destruction, and a bounty. Instead everyone probably took forever to gather, and lost their chance at a reward because they did NOT move quickly.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Haha, Concord: 0 Angrymob: 1 If only i could have been there. You wouldn't consider the successful destruction of that Nyx to be a point for CONCORD? Such a shame to see so many pilots turn on CONCORD just because things didn't go their way. It's pretty clear that if you had gathered quickly, and moved, your reward would've been the Nyx's destruction, and a bounty. Instead everyone probably took forever to gather, and lost their chance at a reward because they did NOT move quickly. Actually, that is not true. First of all, CONCORD stated that they would not wait: they would leave when they thought it was appropriate. They told us to come behind them if we were not ready on time. Second, from what I heard, GF/3FA got the Nyx only 15 minutes after the ship reached the system. Finally, most importantly, CONCORD had not even left for the system by the time the Nyx was dead: they had not even gated out of Stacmon. They did not wait for the players: they simply hadn't even gotten to the point of leaving the system. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Glengrant	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:05:00 - [9] As a couple of my corp mates were involved in the destruction of that mother ship I can tell you that there was no bounty.
Eschwen Gas Giant Industries	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Instead everyone probably took forever to gather, and lost their chance at a reward because they did NOT move quickly. I arrived at the gate to Ostingele in Stacmon well before the Concord agents. In fact, many of the brave pilots who volunteered for this operation were ready to depart for PFP well before the Concord force arrived. Once the Concord agents did arrive in Stacmon, it took no more than a couple minutes for them to announce that the Nyx had already been destroyed. You may not approve of our actions, but it was definitely not through our failure to mobilize in a timely manner that we 'lost our chance' at a reward.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:28:00 - [11] CONCORD agents acting slowly, and denying you your chance to shoot at a mothership, does not justify this betrayal. ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius CONCORD agents acting slowly, and denying you your chance to shoot at a mothership, does not justify this betrayal. CONCORD began the betrayal by refusing us our promised reward for showing up and being prepared to help out. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Geistkonig	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius CONCORD agents acting slowly, and denying you your chance to shoot at a mothership, does not justify this betrayal. CONCORD began the betrayal by refusing us our promised reward for showing up and being prepared to help out. Agreed. CONCORD essentially broke their deal with all of us pilots who had donated our time to what turned out to be a wild furrier chase. Civire do not take lightly to those who go back on their word. As the CONCORD-issued killmails will attest, most of the other pilots present shared my opinion. Thus, revenge was had by many, and fun was had by all. --- Menschliches, allzumenschliches.
Cmdr Baxter Caldari Skunk Works Corp.	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Geistkonig Edited by: Geistkonig on 26/08/2006 21:49:28 Edited by: Geistkonig on 26/08/2006 21:46:55 The simple truth is that CONCORD panicked, and abused the combat-readiness capabilites of the gang of pod pilots who responded to the Inspectors' wild hysterics in local. Action was promised, yet none was had (with the exception of the GoonFleet). Rewards were also promised, yet none were given to (most of) those who responded to CONCORD's call. Thus, we pod pilots took matters into our own hands. What matters here is that a group of pilots took it upon themselves to exact revenge for perceived grievances. They decided to exact their revenge upon the legal authorities that have long been sanctioned and endorsed by the very governments to which you owe your allegiances. This was not a matter of taking "matters into [your] own hands:" this was that a group of people undertook it upon themselves to exact vigilante justice for a perceived slight. If you had really been so desperate as for payment, you should have had the good sense to file a petition with CONCORD. Evidently you had the chat logs, since you've displayed at least one with us, so you could have very easily filed a petition claiming a reward based on the statements of the CONCORD Inspectors. However, you acted as a mindless rabble, your actions denying any chance at a reward. The fact that CONCORD was dealing with a mothership-class vessel means that there was a tactical situation which CONCORD evidently felt unable to deal with. (After all, we are dealing with a substantial difference between one of these vessels and, for example, an Arbitrator.) Their calling upon capsule pilots for military assistance means that they were acting therefore according to procedure, deputizing a group of pilots to act on their behalf in this matter. You did nothing short of abusing this deputization, misusing it for your own personal gains. I feel sickened to even be of the same race as those of you who call yourself Deteis. On a brighter note, I suspect that pirates will welcome you to their ranks with open arms.
Nakatre Read Caldari Vindication Angels	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:33:00 - [15] CONCORD screwed up, what a surprise... ((OOC: Shame the event didnt turn out as people had hoped, i think killing aurora in a fit of rage was a bit too much though ;s))
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:52:00 - [16] Originally by: Nakatre Read CONCORD screwed up, what a surprise... ((OOC: Shame the event didnt turn out as people had hoped, i think killing aurora in a fit of rage was a bit too much though ;s)) It wasn't really a fit of rage. It was a fit of "Hey, we didn't get a reward, but they have loot! Lets kill them!" --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.27 00:17:00 - [17] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 26/08/2006 21:49:27 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Haha, Concord: 0 Angrymob: 1 If only i could have been there. You wouldn't consider the successful destruction of that Nyx to be a point for CONCORD? Such a shame to see so many pilots turn on CONCORD just because things didn't go their way. It's pretty clear that if you had gathered quickly, and moved, your reward would've been the Nyx's destruction, and a bounty. Instead everyone probably took forever to gather, and lost their chance at a reward because they did NOT move quickly. If you look at the larger picture; Sure. The fact that a horde of angry pilots violently killed that CONCORD Squadron while their colleagues just stood by and did nothing is extremely amusing and defiantly worth more points then the destruction of the Nyx. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.27 00:41:00 - [18] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/08/2006 00:41:27 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain If you look at the larger picture; Sure. The fact that a horde of angry pilots violently killed that CONCORD Squadron while their colleagues just stood by and did nothing is extremely amusing and defiantly worth more points then the destruction of the Nyx. Especially as the destruction of the Nyx was ensured the moment it entered Syndicate. Whoever in the Serpentis decided to flee through Syndicate is an utter fool. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:10:00 - [19] How much is a pod pilots time worth? Is an hour of our time worth so much that when wasted, we should snuff out the lives of tens of thousands of good people? Concord and its personnel serve the greater good of the four empires. They are not pirates, they are not evil, they do good works. Not even God has the right to take the lives of decent people such as that. Do you count yourselves above Him? May he have mercy on your souls. You are scum. Nothing more. Embarassments to the pod pilot name.
Sieesa Amarr Liberated	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:23:00 - [20] This is pathetic...the Concord inspectors showed up in the Amarr Empire channel and were laughed at for trying to involve the Empire....This is the second time that the Federation has failed to maintain a hold on their largest capitol class ships....when is the humility going to end. Yes, they managed to assemble a large group to "deal" with the problem...but in the end of it all, Concord is a pathetic organization, the Empire would do well to remmber that they serve "their" interests..."not" those of the Empire. The Empire is more than capable of policing itself and maintaining it's own peace....down with Concord. Relive them of their stranglehold on so called "justice"....it mocks the Amarr by their very existence. Sieesa Morgan. My Pain Is Legion
Shade Gallowglass	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:40:00 - [21] The Pilot of the Nyx was obviously a dangerous and crafty person to be able to steal a Nyx from the Federation Navy. I haven't heard the real story, and am willing to bet I never will since the Navy is involved cough coverup cough...but, I imagine that the time it takes to bring one of these beasts online HAS to be substantial. If the authorities in Luminaire can't detect one of their own warships being prepared for flight, then I would doubt they could detect a hoarde of pirates entering the system. Due to that reason, I'm setting a safety override on my navigation computer to prevent myself from entering that system until the lax security can be beefed up. The fact that the CONCORD fleet in Stacmon was the target of such callous traitors is also no surprise to me. As a resident of Syndicate, I am all too aware of the rabble of the galaxy entering our home systems to raid, pillage, and commit atrocities against the law abiding Corporations there. I suspect many of those pilots were actually the same pirates that routinely raid our systems. They probably just changed their transponder codes and flew hijacked ships. I suspect that CONCORD's retaliation will be forthcoming, but I hope that they recognize the fact that there were probably some sensible Captains who powered down their weapons. I hope CONCORD spares those pilots and doesn't charge them guilty by association. For the guilty, I hope my tax dollars are avenged and justice is served! There are far too many cowardly pirates willing to swoop in and destroy an underpowered, outnumbered victim, so I would not complain if their numbers were reduced. On another note, I hope that CONCORD recognizes the valiant sacrifices of Goonfleet and 3FA with the bounty, some rewards, and medals. We could have sat back and watched the thief pass through our systems. After all he was clearly fleeing from the Stacmon fleets and would have probably paid no attention to us (except for the ships that stumbled upon him, those he engaged to try to keep his location secret). Instead we took action and defeated the invader, doing our duties as law abiding citizens. Many of our comrades died in that action, those that didn't lost a considerable amount of isk in ships and equipment. Dealing with a clone fresh out of storage is a pure pain. All the questions, the blank looks, and other side effects of the process are not easy to endure. Despite all the technical, tactical, and skill training programs they recieve, there are still some bugs in transferring fully the essence of the person to their clones. Those that can afford the best clones medical science has to offer don't have much to worry about. Poor businessmen like me have to worry about the loss of reputation we will face once our colleagues and customers have to deal with our new selves stumbling around drooling until they can recover the data logs we leave them to remind them of who we are. My lawyer says I can sue for the mental damages I have to endure watching the newly awakened clones of my fallen comrades bumbling around until they find their predecessor's logs. I am also told that if we go class action suit with it, we could probably end up OWNING CONCORD due to the massive amounts such lawsuits would award us. But being a good citizen, I have decided to hold off on legal actions and let the Government and CONCORD do the right thing and reward the victors of the battle with the Nyx. I have faith in CONCORD and believe they will make it right for us. As one of many veterans of that epic battle, I would hope that CONCORD would recognize our bravery with the bounty and rewards and compensate us for our losses assisting them. I flew a Caracal into that fray and fired my weapons to the point that my missile launchers will now need to be replaced since the tubes were wore thin from all the launches. Other pilots had to face more than worn weapons, they lost their ships and crew.
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:03:00 - [22] Edited by: Ange1 on 27/08/2006 02:03:42 Didn't the Federation also have a Titan stolen from them some time ago? Is Federation security that atrocious that not one, but now two super-capital ships have been swiped from under their noses? The Establishment is at your service...
Geistkonig	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Menkaure How much is a pod pilots time worth? Is an hour of our time worth so much that when wasted, we should snuff out the lives of tens of thousands of good people? Now you're getting the picture. For the record, it was just the one CONCORD pilot who fell to my Omen, the other two got away. --- Menschliches, allzumenschliches.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 04:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Geistkonig Originally by: Menkaure How much is a pod pilots time worth? Is an hour of our time worth so much that when wasted, we should snuff out the lives of tens of thousands of good people? Now you're getting the picture. For the record, it was just the one CONCORD pilot who fell to my Omen, the other two got away. They didnt --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Shanaya Venn Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.27 07:57:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Shikari [19:42:20] Inspector Ronier > Our rally point is Stacmon, Come quickly and you will be rewarded. CONCORD promised a reward to those who rallied in Stacmon. Those who rallied in Stacmon received no such reward. I have commented on this elsewhere but it bears repeating here. No where have you reported (nor have you produced chat logs verifying) that there was ever any dialog with CONCORD about this expected reward after the Nyx was destroyed. Did anyone even bother to say to the Inspector, "Hey, we came all this way because you promised a reward - where is it?" If that convo happened and he said "you're SOL", then I understand the mood turning ugly, and how such an extreme reaction could be the result. If, though, there was no communication about expectations and your cohort simply attacked out of hand, then you sparked a mob action that reduced all its members to the level of ravening dogs, with about as much point to the exercise - for as is clear by now, the only bounty you'll be seeing out of this will be the one on the heads of leading mob members. Seems apt, to me.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2006.08.27 13:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Geistkonig Originally by: Menkaure How much is a pod pilots time worth? Is an hour of our time worth so much that when wasted, we should snuff out the lives of tens of thousands of good people? Now you're getting the picture. For the record, it was just the one CONCORD pilot who fell to my Omen, the other two got away. And the ship crewmembers?
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 13:54:00 - [27] Originally by: Menkaure Originally by: Geistkonig Originally by: Menkaure How much is a pod pilots time worth? Is an hour of our time worth so much that when wasted, we should snuff out the lives of tens of thousands of good people? Now you're getting the picture. For the record, it was just the one CONCORD pilot who fell to my Omen, the other two got away. And the ship crewmembers? There isnt tens of thousands of crew on a single cruiser. Maybe 30 odd. --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:37:00 - [28] This sort of fracas is exactly why this sort of work should be left to the professionals. Frankly, CONCORD should have known better.
Yarod Cool Team JAVELIN The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Crovan This sort of fracas is exactly why this sort of work should be left to the professionals. Frankly, CONCORD should have known better. That's the truth... Running around the cluster broadcasting for pod pilots to come help is just asking for trouble. There are a lot of pod pilots just as willing to fire on CONCORD or an empire's ships as on a pirate or outlaw ship. And where was the Federation Navy while this was going on? Couldn't we have sent a fleet to stop that one ship?
Risien Drogonne	Posted - 2006.08.27 18:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius CONCORD agents acting slowly, and denying you your chance to shoot at a mothership, does not justify this betrayal. CONCORD began the betrayal by refusing us our promised reward for showing up and being prepared to help out. Got any proof of this so-called offer? Cause I remember it differently. The reward was for the destruction of the Nyx, not merely showing up.
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.27 19:24:00 - [31] Originally by: Yarod Cool Originally by: Crovan This sort of fracas is exactly why this sort of work should be left to the professionals. Frankly, CONCORD should have known better. That's the truth... Running around the cluster broadcasting for pod pilots to come help is just asking for trouble. There are a lot of pod pilots just as willing to fire on CONCORD or an empire's ships as on a pirate or outlaw ship. And where was the Federation Navy while this was going on? Couldn't we have sent a fleet to stop that one ship? It was asking for trouble yes,but maybe they knew..i mean,if they didnt send the message and not one pilot would come and help,how many CONCORD wouldve died then?It might be more then the amount that fell to the riots.
Leon 026 Caldari Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.08.27 21:10:00 - [32] What people do just to get loot ------------------------------- [ 2006.06.22 04:28:01 ] Leon 026 > My Crow dances like she's on ecstasy
Saevus Mortis Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.27 22:51:00 - [33] chuckle ... snicker ... I just can't help myself... AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ok, ok, I'm done. Really. chuckle gasp Sorry. But seriously, I hope some heads roll in the CONCORD and Fed fleet echelons over this. Seriously, what did those idiots think was going to happen? You've got billions in state-of-the-art military hardware, being piloted by one of the most notorious criminals in the cluster, and traveling through some of the most dangerous space there is. CONCORD puts out an open recruiting call, what sort of pilots were they expecting to answer? A pack of well behaved holiday excursionists? I'm sorry, but I just find it far too rich that CONCORD puts out a call that would require a certifiable madman to answer, and they are surprised by this kind of fiasco. You pour chum in the water and try to attract the biggest, meanest razorfish you can, and then complain when they don't turn out to be tame little guppies. I feel for the loss of those poor CONCORD pilots in this, I really do, but it was poor decision making that killed them just as much as the guns of the rioters.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.08.28 07:42:00 - [34] Okay, sounds like some nice action! The Gallente Federation lost just another capital ship to thieves. Will they ever learn? Concord lost a couple of cruisers on business that was none of theirs. The Nyx was Gallente property in space outside of Concord's area of protection. A couple of pilots lost their patience and probably some ammo. Many pilots lost their faith in Concords ability to defend themselves. Lofty gained a corpse. Did Goonswarm recieve the promised reward for stopping that Nyx and its Serpentis pilot yet? --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
Thuul'Khalat Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.08.28 08:08:00 - [35] I am appaled by this news, both the theft of one of our capital ships, and the, shall we say less than honourable pilots taking it upon themselves to kill innocent CONCORD crewmembers over a few ISK. I sencierly hope all the involved pilots are reduced to outlaw status by officials, and denied further access to civilized space. Such offenses should never go unpunished. But all this aside, again it is proven that the Federation has problems, problems we can no longer hide from and ignore, but must adress immediately. The Navy Admirals should on such a serious lack of security and control be fired, and replaced with others, more capable of doing their job. --- As one life ends, another rises from the ashes. Ingame Channel - "Phoenixpublic"
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.28 08:21:00 - [36] that's what you get for flying with undisciplined, liberal fools! Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Mark Bunyan	Posted - 2006.09.03 05:09:00 - [37] So it must be true, being cloned too many times causes the emergence of sociopathy and dementia. Truly nothing else can explain this utter lack of morals and self-discipline that has been demostrated by these callous murderers. Truly no one else would reason that "wasting" such a short period of time justifies cold-blooded murder, and as far as I understand what happened there wasn't even any attempts to talk things through before resorting to violence. And this against Agents of the Law? These people are not humans, they're rabid beasts, and deserve to be treated as such. Anything less than true Death (death of the original and destruction of all clones) would be too lenient.
Thomas Maleficus Caldari Maleficus Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.10 03:03:00 - [38] Originally by: Menkaure Is an hour of our time worth so much that when wasted, we should snuff out the lives of tens of thousands of good people? Concord and its personnel serve the greater good of the four empires. They are not pirates, they are not evil, they do good works. Not evil??? Good works?? Have you jetted your brain into a can? They serve themselves, that is all. When an agency will arbitrarily destroy a pilots ship no matter the value of the ship for accidently destroying a jet can, I have great difficulty in finding anything good in their works. These people are thugs, thugs who feel powerful because they can rule over us with an iron fist a very arbitrary unforgiving iron fist. These people don't know the meaning of the word "trial" or "discretion". I fear they may one day take it upon themselves to assist us in testing out our clones when they decide to mete out their so called justice, taking not just our ships and security status but our lives as well. Pirates stole my signature.

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