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without	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:24:00 - [1] Here is an idea i had ever since i read about the command ships and their gang bonuses but wasnÆt able to implement it myself due to lack of skills and was told to sit on it by friends since it might be a good earner if I ever did train the skills im thinking of taking a break from eve and donÆt know if ill be back so i wanted to let this idea go free and have the forum ***s rip it and hopefully someone or some group implements it ok here goes Mission *s, love em or hate em they are a very very big part of the game with big wallets. So would they pay to make their mission lives a bit easier? i would say yes, why not pay some isk if u can make more by running missions faster right? Plan: Train a char to be very specialized with the gang mods, put the nice implants into his head and get him into a command ship, try max out skills! Then use 6 gang mods. Specializing in the shield ones. but ud have something like shield resistance, shield booster cap, shield booster rof, speed, sig , armor ect now you take this character to a busy lvl 4 system and offer the agent *s to join your gang for 5mil isk [could have a promotional period where u do it for free or for cheap] people see that lvl4s can be done faster and easier and sign up. For safety you would not accept anyone who has a war, and can develop a system to run this business semi afk. You put like send 5mil isk for days gang into your bio and instructions to give isk to you with the subject gang support. Then u check the alt every 30mins to an hour and gang those that have sent you the isk Some possible problems: If the mission is in a different system from you, the agent ***s will not get the bonus Possible abuse by can thieves, but u can get around that by blocking certain people and allowing only players >2months to be ganged, also reports of can stealing should get u kicked from the gang! Possible ways to make more isk out of it: Sell loot rites! Gang one person or perhaps 2 people who are pro loot collectors, they basically are in very fast haulers and can take the loot from npcers that done want it. Guy kills 15 cruisers and 15 frigs in a raven and cba to go grab all the loot so gives it to one of the loot collectors, just says warp to me have the loot! You could charge these guys a lot more than 5mil since they can be very low sp players starting out in the game, collecting the loot of 50-100people npcing could make them good isk. So perhaps charge them 50mil for a days gang! Rough numbers: say you charge 5mil per npcer gang and 50mil per looter and u have in the course of the day 100people ask for a gang and u have 2 looters. that brings in 600mil isk!! people would pay 5mil just to see how the command ships effect them!! also things like getting help on missions from gang members ect would bring people back So let me know if u thinks this is a good idea, and let me know if u plan on doing something like this. Hope someone does!
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:40:00 - [2] That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one ****up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill.
Graelyn Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:41:00 - [3] Edited by: Graelyn on 27/08/2006 02:44:45 Logistics ships would be 5x more effective in this role. I offer, and have offered, such services to missionrunners for months, but I never get any takers. (except fom my own Alliance's runners, who after one run with logistics help, scramble to ensure it's help at any opporitunity.) Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Darth Revanant Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:42:00 - [4] Sounds like a good idea, but can't people in your gang shoot at you freely? Or did they get rid of that? _______________
Krychton Amarr Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:45:00 - [5] Contact me, and I would be happy to be your gang mate. Free of charge. ----
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one **up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. Muaha. Muahaha. MUAHAHAHAHAA --------------------------- Originally by:** inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
vyperpit Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:49:00 - [7] Edited by: vyperpit on 27/08/2006 02:49:55 Originally by: Graelyn Edited by: Graelyn on 27/08/2006 02:44:45 Logistics ships would be 5x more effective in this role. I offer, and have offered, such services to missionrunners for months, but I never get any takers. (except fom my own Alliance's runners, who after one run with logistics help, scramble to ensure it's help at any opporitunity.) they are definitly not, because a command ship can be boosting 500ships in local. and can a command ship increase the webs range or speed? sure a logistic can do a better job to one guy maybe two, but a command ship can do a system baby :P Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one **up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. it says check to see that person isnt in a corp who is at war, but someone can join the gang who isnt at war and then leave that corp and join one that is at war. that would be hard to police! eiter way things can be minimised if soon as one person gets attacked they cry in gang, then gang is insta despanded! Originally by:** Darth Revanant Sounds like a good idea, but can't people in your gang shoot at you freely? Or did they get rid of that? gang members cant shoot each other unless they are also in the same corp!
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:52:00 - [8] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one ****up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. Muaha. Muahaha. MUAHAHAHAHAA And no, I won't go into business with you, depsite the billions that could be extorted.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:05:00 - [9] This would be a very good idea... --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari This would be a very good idea... Good thing im maxing out gang skills soon --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one **up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. Muaha. Muahaha. MUAHAHAHAHAA And no, I won't go into business with you, depsite the billions that could be extorted. There's already been an estimated 3 bil extorted by me alone --------------------------- Originally by:** inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:20:00 - [12] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one ****up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. Muaha. Muahaha. MUAHAHAHAHAA And no, I won't go into business with you, depsite the billions that could be extorted. There's already been an estimated 3 bil extorted by me alone can you two get a room and keep this out of here, its got nothing to do with the thred and no one but u two understand it ok, wanted to also add that this would also work with mining mods, you would even attract a mining following, ie first it would be slot but as more and more people take up ur services you could then start choosing the system to mine in, ie in ur bio ud have the system name and miners would come to you, this could be huge!! think of a gang of 250miners! stripping a 40belt system per day. also this mining way u could charge big corps or alliances isk to take ur miners to systems they need minerals in!!
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:25:00 - [13] Originally by: without Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one **up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. Muaha. Muahaha. MUAHAHAHAHAA And no, I won't go into business with you, depsite the billions that could be extorted. There's already been an estimated 3 bil extorted by me alone can you two get a room and keep this out of here, its got nothing to do with the thred and no one but u two understand it Im sure quite a few more people understand it. And it does have something to do with the thread. How can you make an assumption like that if you dont understand it? --------------------------- Originally by:** inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Lienzo Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:31:00 - [14] Better yet for loot collection, your contractors pay the mission runners a fixed amount of isk and keep the mods. You can use newer players for this quite easily. It's basically taking a gamble. The NPCers don't have to worry about getting gyped, and they don't have to bother with cans to get a little extra isk. All you have to do is run metrics on the average value of drops and your contractors cash in on the rare drops (since they wood anyhow). With a good central salesman on staff, you could find pretty consistent work in someplace like Jita. Pretty good alternative entrepreneurial use for a lone hauler now that there are no hauling missions. Republic Fleet phases out obsolete Vigils.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:45:00 - [15] Interesting idea, got 4.8mil in leadership and counting atm. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Hllaxiu Interesting idea, got 4.8mil in leadership and counting atm. Only another 16m or so until you're maxed --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:55:00 - [17] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Hllaxiu Interesting idea, got 4.8mil in leadership and counting atm. Only another 16m or so until you're maxed there is no need to be maxed on every part of leadership, just one of them, say shelds for example, this is because of the implants, one tpype at any one time
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.27 04:02:00 - [18] Originally by: without Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Hllaxiu Interesting idea, got 4.8mil in leadership and counting atm. Only another 16m or so until you're maxed there is no need to be maxed on every part of leadership, just one of them, say shelds for example, this is because of the implants, one tpype at any one time True. But if you just do shields, you get borked, tbh, as the number of NPCing ravens (I find) has declined in favour of the domi. Probably best to specialise in the EW ones, speed, armor and shield tanking. And put in an implant accordingly. Then have fun --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Graelyn Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.08.27 06:07:00 - [19] Originally by: vyperpit Edited by: vyperpit on 27/08/2006 02:49:55 Originally by: Graelyn Edited by: Graelyn on 27/08/2006 02:44:45 Logistics ships would be 5x more effective in this role. I offer, and have offered, such services to missionrunners for months, but I never get any takers. (except fom my own Alliance's runners, who after one run with logistics help, scramble to ensure it's help at any opporitunity.) they are definitly not, because a command ship can be boosting 500ships in local. and can a command ship increase the webs range or speed? sure a logistic can do a better job to one guy maybe two, but a command ship can do a system baby :P Most mission runners are no more than 3 stong, or, if they have a Raven, always solo. Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.27 06:19:00 - [20] Originally by: without Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia That does actually sound like an interesting business venture. However one ****up invite of a wardec-d target and someone will have dozens of mission runers to kill. Muaha. Muahaha. MUAHAHAHAHAA And no, I won't go into business with you, depsite the billions that could be extorted. There's already been an estimated 3 bil extorted by me alone can you two get a room and keep this out of here, its got nothing to do with the thred and no one but u two understand it lofty makes money ganging people and pking/ransoming them in high-sec, it is very relevent in this thread actually. And I don't want to get a room with lofty, he probably smells after... poor CONCORD corpse. Anyways, if you sit in one of the highsec hubs and gang NPC corp players and non-war-dec'd players, you COULD make a ton of money. And if you're not an evil bastard (lofty), you'd probably have a steady source of income. You should've have posted this thread though. You could've done it without telling anyone, and done it in a major mission hub, and made more ISK than some T2 producers, and the work you'd be doing would be about the same as what some of them do.
Bub Rub Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.08.27 06:42:00 - [21] Edited by: Bub Rub on 27/08/2006 06:43:46 I'm sorry. Maybe I do not understand what you are getting at, but why would somoene pay you 5M/mission? Oh and even at 5M a mission that you are charging how can you honestly expect to make anywhere near 500M a day? An average mission can take from 15-1 hour long? Even if you could do every mission at 15 minutes, you would need to be constantly going at 4 missions per hour for 25 hours a day to do 500M. Not possible.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.08.27 06:53:00 - [22] Check the Gang Assist Modules. Check the bonus from BC and Command ships and skills. check the bonus from skills. Check the bonus from implants. Check the range of the effect. Add Jita into the equation. Then imagine a group of four Command ships with maxxed specialisations in their races' command ships assist the mission runners. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
UndergrounD Caldari Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.08.27 07:48:00 - [23] i foresee a nerf of gang modules within empire and low sec space -----------------------------------------------
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.08.27 07:50:00 - [24] So what you're saying is, someone pays, then gets in a covert ops ship and flies around leeching bounties, right? In Corporate Caldari, taxes pay YOU.
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Bub Rub Edited by: Bub Rub on 27/08/2006 06:43:46 I'm sorry. Maybe I do not understand what you are getting at, but why would somoene pay you 5M/mission? Oh and even at 5M a mission that you are charging how can you honestly expect to make anywhere near 500M a day? An average mission can take from 15-1 hour long? Even if you could do every mission at 15 minutes, you would need to be constantly going at 4 missions per hour for 25 hours a day to do 500M. Not possible. no, u give people a gang for 5mil isk, not per mission, then they can stay in that gang for as long as tehy like the benifit of the gang is like 20% more shield boosting, 20% elss cap use for shield booster, faster ship, more resistance to ecm, more shields, ect and if u gang 100people in the course of the day, thats 500mil isk!
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Alexi Borizkova So what you're saying is, someone pays, then gets in a covert ops ship and flies around leeching bounties, right? ahh, yep that can be done, but ofcourse you would have checks like this also, a lot of missions are deadspare afaik, meaing its hard to stay cloacked, plus if mission runners see their bountys are wrong, u can ask everyone to warp to you and kick those that do not come or are in pvp ships or things like cov ops and why would someone spend time warping around with an npcer to take half his bounty isk, why not do missions himself, about the same amount of work!
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:09:00 - [27] Originally by: Alexi Borizkova So what you're saying is, someone pays, then gets in a covert ops ship and flies around leeching bounties, right? ahh, yep that can be done, but ofcourse you would have checks like this also, a lot of missions are deadspare afaik, meaing its hard to stay cloacked, plus if mission runners see their bountys are wrong, u can ask everyone to warp to you and kick those that do not come or are in pvp ships or things like cov ops and why would someone spend time warping around with an npcer to take half his bounty isk, why not do missions himself, about the same amount of work!
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Alexi Borizkova So what you're saying is, someone pays, then gets in a covert ops ship and flies around leeching bounties, right? ahh, yep that can be done, but ofcourse you would have checks like this also, a lot of missions are deadspare afaik, meaing its hard to stay cloacked, plus if mission runners see their bountys are wrong, u can ask everyone to warp to you and kick those that do not come or are in pvp ships or things like cov ops and why would someone spend time warping around with an npcer to take half his bounty isk, why not do missions himself, about the same amount of work!
without	Posted - 2006.08.27 14:09:00 - [29] Originally by: Alexi Borizkova So what you're saying is, someone pays, then gets in a covert ops ship and flies around leeching bounties, right? ahh, yep that can be done, but ofcourse you would have checks like this also, a lot of missions are deadspare afaik, meaing its hard to stay cloacked, plus if mission runners see their bountys are wrong, u can ask everyone to warp to you and kick those that do not come or are in pvp ships or things like cov ops and why would someone spend time warping around with an npcer to take half his bounty isk, why not do missions himself, about the same amount of work!
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