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Vesan Terakol Capsuleer Outfitters Bad Intention 113	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:03:50 - [1] - Quote So the new data site got introduced today an here's my impression from it. First, lets start with the story - i'm out in low sec, about to run on some business of my own. I see a navy comet on a gate, just sitting there and a cheetah on DScan. The comet warps away to somewhere and while i'm searching for it, the cheetah goes off scan, but the pilot is still in system. Out of curiosity, i swap to loot filter and there it is - a cheetah wreck! After some effort scanning the site down, calling corp mates and logging in alts, we finally managed to nail it down. And there we go, moving inside and looking at all those new boxes and the cheetah wreck - apparently running head first into one of the damage clouds. Well, a with all unknown there was some "i'll just stay away from this, i'm a PvP-er, i don't wanna die like that! " I finally dared to go in and start poking at the boxes. Pressure release - i like this one - if you fail it, it zaps you! Altho i feel the zap should be a bit more solid - those 200 damage got like 1/4 of the shields of my Astero - nothing that will drive you back, really. The count down for wearing off of the effect is nice, also (i didn't spot it at first, a corp mate pointed it out). Remote defense unit - ok, this was the control for the bubble shield. But then: [14:12:43] Message > Failing to hack the Remote Defense Unit seems to have set something in motion, but you can't tell what. I never saw anything happen after that - on the next try i successfully hacked it and the shield went down... and that's it. Rest of the boxes - So, those won't explode if you fail them - you can be there, trying to access them all day until you finally make it. I failed times on one of them (in the stupidest possible ways, mind you). The loot: Meta items? Are you kidding me? Oh well, i guess you need to have some trash inside, lest the good stuff won't stand out. Sleeper data banks - well, at least they sell for decent price... COSMOS materials... Um... OK, those are worth something. Storyline blueprint - a tracking computer in my case, 3 runs. I hope the addition of them in those sites as well as adding the parts for them will make them a more desirable commodity and not something that will be a "idiot" flag on the killmail when your ship eventually blows up. Polarized weapons blueprint - small laser - Um, one run? Come on... why would i even bother with it? Yeah, i know they are supposed to be rare and expensive, but 1 run? Overall, the site itself is good - it requires some basic thought to not run in the damage cloud, but doesn't make you really weave between them. You can just always fly all the way around. Significantly better than your average data site, tho. Hack this ot acess that - Yes! I like that! More! And adding to that the way i encountered this site, i want to say that CCP has provided us with some good quality content!
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:45:20 - [2] - Quote Nice, what was the total estimates value you got from the site? Also what was the scan difficulty / your scanner stats? I'm my own NPC alt.
Toddfish Multiplex Gaming The Bastion 31	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:46:09 - [3] - Quote There's already a fair amount of info in the test feedback post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5188494 Good to hear the larger sites will be coming in a few weeks (not months/years), as only having frig level sites would become quite annoying. Increasing the depth of the exploration profession
Rhys Llywellyn Llywellyn's School for Wayward Girls 1	Posted - 2014.11.15 02:31:11 - [4] - Quote Found one in Cloud Ring today. I received very little in the way of loot. From memory, all I received was about 100k in meta items and some RAM stuff. Tip one: the plasma cloud will kill your hobgoblinses if you attack it. I wish I had taken some notes. I think, in retrospect, the thing to do is to hit the stabilization thingie, then the remote defense unit. That's how I'll play it next time. On damage: with no defenses fitted, I was able to MWD away from the cloud damage barely into armor (and I didn't react immediately as I was finishing a hack.
Nemah Xadi Hedion University Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2014.11.15 06:10:02 - [5] - Quote My anathema has survived two of these so far. They are a bit harder to scan than the toughest sites in null, 10/10 or crystal quarries. With about 100 scan strength it should not be a problem, you can do with less if you know how to move the probes closer to eachother. First one didn't drop much, one cheap storyline bpc and maybe 15m of assorted stuff. Second one I got about 30m and one of the polarized bpcs (single run). One of the cans exploded into a new damage cloud when I got too close to it. I had a damage control and two EANM, survived moving through with some armor damage. Can't say what happens if you fail the hacks, didn't feel like trying.
dexington Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1261	Posted - 2014.11.15 13:57:31 - [6] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: Nice, what was the total estimates value you got from the site? Also what was the scan difficulty / your scanner stats? I use T2 probe launcher with sister probes, with 5 astrometrics and 4 in the remaining scanning skills. The sites was noticeable header harder to scan then other low-sec sites, but still not difficult to get the 100%. The site had 6 can's 3 of which had meta level guns, 2 had skill books and sleeper blue loot, the last had some RAM tools, total value was around 25M. I'm guessing the meta level guns will be replaced by polarized weapon modules when they are released, if that is the case i think you expect to get 100-200M maybe even more from the sites. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Beness Vojtech Fekete 15	Posted - 2014.11.16 17:41:55 - [7] - Quote T2 probe launcher, T1 probes, Astero, with Acquisition, Pinpointing, and Rangefinding all to IV can scan these sites down in the standard Pinpoint formation. Failing the Remote Defense Unit has that unit explode. It put my Astero from full shield to a sliver of armor left. I fit T2 DC and EANM as tank. I did have a bit of trouble maintaining tank against the AoE while hacking the containers once the Pressure Release timer finished. I didn't time it particularly well - my progress was Pressure Release -> Remote Defense Failure -> Warp Out -> Warp Back -> Containers. Could sequence it better to minimize the time that I had to deal with the AoE, and focused on the further containers while it was suspended. Loot? Yeah, blue Sleeper stuff, 1-run BPC for Polarized Pulse Laser, a few other bits and bobs. Excluding the BPC, probably 15M. These seem like they'll be more consistent income than combat sites - more containers to average out the drops. Whether that works out to be a higher average over time, well, we'll see.
Seizwell Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2014.11.17 14:01:44 - [8] - Quote I ran into two over the weekend as well. I hadn't read anything about them so I took some damage from the gas the first time, but still survived. I got a "crossbow" medium laser BPC from one and Polarized Torpedo Launcher BPC from the other. Rest of the loot was pretty standard.
Sam Spock The Scope Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2014.11.17 21:19:36 - [9] - Quote Beness wrote: T2 probe launcher, T1 probes, Astero, with Acquisition, Pinpointing, and Rangefinding all to IV can scan these sites down in the standard Pinpoint formation. Failing the Remote Defense Unit has that unit explode. It put my Astero from full shield to a sliver of armor left. I fit T2 DC and EANM as tank. I did have a bit of trouble maintaining tank against the AoE while hacking the containers once the Pressure Release timer finished. I didn't time it particularly well - my progress was Pressure Release -> Remote Defense Failure -> Warp Out -> Warp Back -> Containers. Could sequence it better to minimize the time that I had to deal with the AoE, and focused on the further containers while it was suspended. Loot? Yeah, blue Sleeper stuff, 1-run BPC for Polarized Pulse Laser, a few other bits and bobs. Excluding the BPC, probably 15M. These seem like they'll be more consistent income than combat sites - more containers to average out the drops. Whether that works out to be a higher average over time, well, we'll see. Good to know that failing could kill your ship. I have failed it once and it gives a warning that something may be happening but I have not failed it twice.
Nemah Xadi Hedion University Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2014.11.18 06:59:04 - [10] - Quote They don't really seem to be much better income than regular relics so far at least in null. Best drop I got from one so far was the 100m wreck of a previous explorer who exploded in the site. i've only seen single-run bpcs, but i know there are even 10-run bpcs out there. Do those only drop in wormholes?

Sam Spock The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:57:40 - [11] - Quote Nemah Xadi wrote: They don't really seem to be much better income than regular relics so far at least in null. Best drop I got from one so far was the 100m wreck of a previous explorer who exploded in the site. i've only seen single-run bpcs, but i know there are even 10-run bpcs out there. Do those only drop in wormholes? Last one I did I got a 3-run Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon and a very nice 3-run storyline bpc of another large projectile weapon (sorry, don't recall the exact name.) This was in High Sec as well. I was quite surprised. I also picked up some of those tools that are used in building Cosmos items and did not notice until later that the pair together valued at 150m! I am kicking myself for only going after the cans that had the blueprints in them. Some of the other stuff may have had real value. I am used to the tools in the regular data sites being junk. tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk.
Nemah Xadi Hedion University Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2014.11.19 11:11:05 - [12] - Quote Sam Spock wrote: tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk. I've done about 6 sleeper sites in null, most of the cans have been junk (besides 2 polarized bpcs), and I hack everything. How do you manage to charm the loot fairy like that?
Sam Spock The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2014.11.19 18:23:43 - [13] - Quote Nemah Xadi wrote: Sam Spock wrote: tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk. I've done about 6 sleeper sites in null, most of the cans have been junk (besides 2 polarized bpcs), and I hack everything. How do you manage to charm the loot fairy like that? Wish I knew! Have not found a single site since then though. Loot fairy gave me a nice Guristas Scout Outpost last night though
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 116	Posted - 2014.11.20 06:52:07 - [14] - Quote This suppose to be hard to scan? Astrometric - V Astrometrics acquisition - IV Astrometrics pinpointing - IV Astrometrics rangefinding - IV Sisters core probe lanucher with sisters probes ... on gila hull and i manage to pinpoint this site to 75%? As for hardest site, way to easy imo. I wasn't even using explo dedicated hull. Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears. I am the night. I'm Bantam. More exploration in exploration
Vesan Terakol Capsuleer Outfitters Bad Intention 114	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:21:10 - [15] - Quote What i used was: Astero with T2 probe launcher and Sister probes. Astrometrics 5, all the rest at 3.
Zetsubou Gakusei Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.11.21 17:08:29 - [16] - Quote I lost my cheetah to one such site in hi-sec, I finished hacking the can in the cloud and was already moving out of the way but the cloud reactivated and I couldn't MWD out fast enough (foolish me for not activating it as soon as I was done) So from the previous posts I see that the Astero can safely enough do the sites? Got any fittings with tank and scanning equipment you guys can share?
Barton Breau University of Caille Gallente Federation 95	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:51:37 - [17] - Quote Aim for ~100 dps omni tank (for now, maybe someone who has completed a lot of them can tell us which types the clouds do and which they dont), dcu in case of explosions and 96+ probe strength (can be scanned down manually with less, but pinpoint is more convenient).
Rhys Llywellyn Llywellyn's School for Wayward Girls 1	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:18:50 - [18] - Quote I've run a few of these now. What works for me is to hit the remote pressure unit first, which allows you to get close to the can right by the 'pressure chamber' (is that right? the big thing in the middle). Hack the middle can then gtf away. The other cans seem to always be approachable from the outside without taking any dmg. Using this method I have not found tank to be necessary, but then I haven't failed a hack yet. The only damage I'm getting is if i get to close to the middle while i travel from can to can. A quick MWD burst away has always left me with at least some shield left (flying an Astero). Hopefully I can run one of these without someone else in system soon, so I can take notes. Edit: I don't understand the significance of the defense grid - it doesn't seem to affect damage from the cloud if you try to cut across from one can to another. Anyone?
Burl en Daire M.O.M.S. Corp 82	Posted - 2014.11.24 04:31:32 - [19] - Quote I found a sleeper site in low but I couldn't hack the can. T2 data and relic mods in a fully skilled Helios with mid virtues and relic and data rigs. Failed hard, I don't know of a better ship to use and moving to T2 rigs wouldn't allow me to put a data and relic rig on the ship. Any suggestions on how I could do better. Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. Hunter S. Thompson
Zetsubou Gakusei Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.11.24 06:52:16 - [20] - Quote I ran one of these but I don't remember well, what kind of analyzer is required? only one or both?

Burl en Daire M.O.M.S. Corp 82	Posted - 2014.11.24 11:04:02 - [21] - Quote I think I used a relic but I don't remember. The hacking game was very difficult which I don't mind, I am just wanting to know if there is better setup. I have mid grade virtues and lvl 5 skills, is there another way to raise relic and data strengths? Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. Hunter S. Thompson
Barton Breau University of Caille Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2014.11.24 13:28:06 - [22] - Quote Rhys Llywellyn wrote: Edit: I don't understand the significance of the defense grid - it doesn't seem to affect damage from the cloud if you try to cut across from one can to another. Anyone? One can seems to (sometimes?) have a force field, i assume this deactivates or prevents it from activating. Also the sig vanishes even if just the can under the force field is still there and the grid can was exploded by failure (does quite a damage). Force field needs around 200dps to get down, then can can be hacked normally. Also for analyzers, the utility cans seem to need data, the loot cans relic, so apart of the wormhole in the first room, one could probably finish with just a relic analyzer, i will have to try it.
Barton Breau University of Caille Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2014.11.24 13:44:17 - [23] - Quote Burl en Daire wrote: I think I used a relic but I don't remember. The hacking game was very difficult which I don't mind, I am just wanting to know if there is better setup. I have mid grade virtues and lvl 5 skills, is there another way to raise relic and data strengths? If you have hacking and archeology to 5, thus t2 analyzers and a astero/covops, thats the best you can have, as far as virus strength goes (virus damage), apart of the sansha one. There are the 9 and 10 slot implats that give you coherence (virus hp), 5 each.
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 819	Posted - 2014.11.24 14:04:00 - [24] - Quote Did two of these in high sec, cracked the can, got no loot but a rift gate came up. Went through, unlocked the first can, got nothing and launched a hazardous gas timer anyway, warped out with no loot at 20% armor. There were 5 other cans but there was simply no way I could stay to try and hack them. Seems like dud content to me based on pure lottery.
Sam Spock The Scope Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:09:17 - [25] - Quote Sam Spock wrote: Nemah Xadi wrote: Sam Spock wrote: tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk. I've done about 6 sleeper sites in null, most of the cans have been junk (besides 2 polarized bpcs), and I hack everything. How do you manage to charm the loot fairy like that? Wish I knew! Have not found a single site since then though. Loot fairy gave me a nice Guristas Scout Outpost last night though Loot fairy struck again. Got three Polarized bp's from one site. One was in the pressure chamber thing and the other two were in the can with the force field. I came VERY close to dying in both cases. I mis-timed flying out of the pressure chamber and took my shields all the way down and on the security one I failed the first and was one click away from failing the second. The BP's were for a 1 run 800mm repeating cannon, 3 run heavy neutron blaster and a 10 run 200mn autocannon. Not a bad night that. Before that one I found a couple of others that had very little with the best being a science skill book worth 10m. They also seem to take a while to de-spawn on their own. One site I only hacked the easy can near the warp-in for a meta weapon and came back a couple hours later and the site was still there. It may de-list from the signatures after doing the pressure thing. Giving you Inconsistent grammar, speilling and Punct-uation since 1974!
Sam Spock The Scope Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:17:58 - [26] - Quote Ocih wrote: Did two of these in high sec, cracked the can, got no loot but a rift gate came up. Went through, unlocked the first can, got nothing and launched a hazardous gas timer anyway, warped out with no loot at 20% armor. There were 5 other cans but there was simply no way I could stay to try and hack them. Seems like dud content to me based on pure lottery. It takes a bit of route planning to get these. The pressure chamber thing turns off the gas in the brightly lit area. You can go for that can but you only have a couple of minutes. There is another can up and away from it but near enough to the gas to cause damage. These two would be great for a group to do. One hacks the release, one goes to the bright area and a third goes for the outside near one. There is a can next to the pressure release mechanism you can hack right away with out doing anything else. I have gotten good drops from it. There is one that is up and away from the gas but has a force field you need to disable with the security can. You can fly to the security thing by flying out and then to it. Make sure you keep away from the "eggs". They blow up and put more damaging clouds up. I have seen others say you can shoot the force field but I don't know about that. I use an un-armed Buzzard. The rest of the cans you can fly out and around everything and approach from the outside. Just don't fly too fast or overshoot or you may set off an "egg". Cargo scan first and cherry pick. Saves a bit of time ad a lot of sweat! Giving you Inconsistent grammar, speilling and Punct-uation since 1974!
Unezka Turigahl Det Som Engang Var 485	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:30:02 - [27] - Quote So far I've pulled: Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon BPC - 1 run Polarized Mega Pulse Laser BPC - 1 run 'Radical' Damage Control I BPC - 3 runs (was selling for 800mil+ each but its down to 500 now) 'Motte' Capacitor Power Relay 1 BPC - 3 runs 'Deuce' Co-Processor 1 BPC - 3 runs 'Executive' Remote Sensor Damp 1 BPC - 3 runs 'Desert Heat' Thermic Dissipation Field BPC - 3 runs A few skillbooks worth 10mil each And then a bunch of lesser value stuff. I think I've done around 5 sites or so, some of them at various degrees of completion by other players by the time I got to it. I started off with an Astero with a hacking rig and hacking lvl 3 and analyzing lvl 2. I failed the relic containers a lot but you get as many chances as you want so I was able to do the sites. I've got both skills at 4 now, training to 5. The site is a bit of a pain because I'm never in a frigate, always in my Gila. So I have to bookmark the site and madly dash for my Astero. Loot isn't amazing or anything. But the site is fun to do and I enjoy it. I actually never bothered to try the data/relic mini game until now.
Sam Spock The Scope Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2014.11.25 17:53:14 - [28] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: So far I've pulled: Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon BPC - 1 run Polarized Mega Pulse Laser BPC - 1 run 'Radical' Damage Control I BPC - 3 runs (was selling for 800mil+ each but its down to 500 now) 'Motte' Capacitor Power Relay 1 BPC - 3 runs 'Deuce' Co-Processor 1 BPC - 3 runs 'Executive' Remote Sensor Damp 1 BPC - 3 runs 'Desert Heat' Thermic Dissipation Field BPC - 3 runs A few skillbooks worth 10mil each And then a bunch of lesser value stuff. I think I've done around 5 sites or so, some of them at various degrees of completion by other players by the time I got to it. I started off with an Astero with a hacking rig and hacking lvl 3 and analyzing lvl 2. I failed the relic containers a lot but you get as many chances as you want so I was able to do the sites. I've got both skills at 4 now, training to 5. The site is a bit of a pain because I'm never in a frigate, always in my Gila. So I have to bookmark the site and madly dash for my Astero. Loot isn't amazing or anything. But the site is fun to do and I enjoy it. I actually never bothered to try the data/relic mini game until now. Wow. Looks like the loot fairy is firmly on your side. All that from five sites. I did two last night and got another 800mm cannon 1 run and a 3 run torpedo launcher. Have to skill up some to build that last one. Giving you Inconsistent grammar, speilling and Punct-uation since 1974!
Square PI Hedion University Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2014.11.26 07:47:20 - [29] - Quote Zetsubou Gakusei wrote: I ran one of these but I don't remember well, what kind of analyzer is required? only one or both? You need both. Relic and Data. I did one of these in High sec a few days ago. Took a while to scan it down (my skills are not this good). I used a tristan and only a tech 1 Relic and Data. No other boosts. Hacking and Archology only 2 and 3. It was a total pain :) and took a lot of tries. But it IS possible. Basicly there are a few (5 in my case) Storage containers. You need the Relic for these. 3 containers were alone and could easy be hacked without any damage or surprise. Two of the containers were "guarded". One with the gas cloud that could be disabled with the pressure tank data cache (no loot in this one, only turns of the cloud for a few min). The second by a shield that can be disabled over the defense cache (again no loot in this one, need Data for it). It seems that the loot caches can be tried as many times as you want. They didnt explode and did no damage. But the cloud cache and the defense cache were doing damage when failed. And it was not possible for me to stay in the cloud after the time was over. There was even a message in the chat about this. First 60 sec, than 30 sec and last a 10 sec warning in red that the cloud will appear again. It was not possible to turn it off after this point. The loot was bad. Around 4 million in stuff, no BPC. But i could not hack the cloud can. It can be that the good loot was in this one.
Rockerguy 101 IceBox Inc. Lasers Are Magic 3	Posted - 2014.11.26 15:23:50 - [30] - Quote So how do you warp out and warp back in to the site? I warped out last night when a gas cloud appeared over my ship and I couldn't make it back to the site. Just make a bookmark once you arrive in the site? Explorer \| Ghost



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