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Yello1
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Posted - 2006.08.27 16:05:00 -
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Why does everyone hang their cargo containers all over space? Dont you have to haul it back and forth eventually anyway?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.27 16:44:00 -
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So that nobody can take it in the meantime?
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Yello1
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Posted - 2006.08.27 17:44:00 -
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Yes but why not just haul it back right then and there.
I mean here I am in my Miner. I mine a cargo hold full. Now I can either bring it back to the station now and return to mine more - or put it into a secure container and mine more now and THEN go back to the station and THEN return to pick up the cargo container. Isnt that the same thing? Either way its two trips for the same amount of cargo. Only difference is with the Cargo container you are out of pocket on the expense of the container and have it at risk of being stolen while its sitting out there.
Unless you have a Fast miner and a big hauler that you rotate, or are using two accounts, it doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? Or am I missing something?
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Arsig
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Posted - 2006.08.27 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Arsig on 27/08/2006 18:14:27
Edited by: Arsig on 27/08/2006 18:13:01
Think of point A as a station.
Point B is an asteroid belt in the same system as station.
Case 1: You mine a full cargohold and make a round trip to A and back to B. You do this 100 times. You transport 100 cargoholds through a total distance (A->B) x 100 x 2.
Case 2: You mine a full cargohold but anchor down a container and continue mining at B.
You move a negligible distance between asterioids in the same belt with this method. After securing 100 cargoholds worth of ore, you run to get your hauler at the station and return to scoop up all 100 of the containers at once. Total distance is around (A->B) x 3.
Use secure containers to prevent theft.
Now you see how much more effective it is to haul in big lumps, and it becomes increasingly more efficient when the station isn't in the same system.
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Yello1
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Posted - 2006.08.27 18:23:00 -
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Ok so it is for multiship operations only then. Gotcha, thanks.
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Elliot Reid
Serenity Prime
Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.27 20:01:00 -
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I have a giant secure can (or whichever the ones that hold 3900m3 are) anchored in a system that has no station. When I rat and my cargo hold fills up I warp to my can and drop it in there. It saves me making many trips to the next system with a station.
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Sria
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Posted - 2006.08.27 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sria on 27/08/2006 22:57:25
It's not for multi-ship ops. From what I understand anyway.
It sounds to me like you are getting a full cargo hull on your miner then returning to base and dropping it off so I'm basing what I say on that suspision.
A Container can hold a lot more than your cargo hold so you can fill it up with a lot more ore then make only one trip with your hauler.
So instead of going back and forth and back and forth with a little bit of ore you just fill a can with a lot of ore then only come back once with a hauler.
edit: My bad you said multi-ship I was thinking multi account.
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NightF0x
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.08.27 23:38:00 -
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Also secure containers can only be secured in 0.7 & lower sec systems. In high sec, your container can still be stolen and reprocessed to get the minerals.
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.08.27 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dahak2150 on 27/08/2006 23:47:26
Originally by: NightF0x
Also secure containers can only be secured in 0.7 & lower sec systems. In high sec, your container can still be stolen and reprocessed to get the minerals.
Nah, you can just repackage them and keep both.
Also, the can takes up 3k in a cargohold, but contains 3.9k, so you can gain cargo space by using these. It allows an Iteron V to hold up to 33 some thousand m3. Of course, this doesn't help when hauling ships, or uranium, or people, but with most goods it means more moved.
So if your indy has 9k m3, you can squeeze up to 11.7k m3 into it.
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Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
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Posted - 2006.08.28 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yello1
Unless you have a Fast miner and a big hauler that you rotate, or are using two accounts, it doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? Or am I missing something?
nope, you just answered your own question! Have a cookie 
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Tabet Saens
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 16:35:00 -
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Ok, so I rat in a rifter. I kill Battlecruisers that often drop big loot. I've got 130m3 worth of cargo that is split amongst ammo and loot. I don't want to dock after every 2 BC's to unload the loot. So I fly to the secured container, drop loot in there, maybe refresh my ammo supply, then continue ratting.
Less time docking/undocking in a station, more time ratting. More fun!
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Mikey Monkfish
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:30:00 -
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A mate of mine uses these containers.
He uses a tug to take 3 containers out, then heads back to station (In the same system) to get his miner. He then mines for about an hour, filling up the 3 containers.
Once they are full, he returns to the station to get the tug again, and take all 3 containers back and sells the lot for nearly a mil.
I think that's how he does it anyway. 
I'm a noob myself, so I'm guessing the tug is crap an mining, but can hold shed loads. (Correct me if I'm wrong  )
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