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Toman'Torax
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Posted - 2006.08.28 00:51:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Elitus
Well im sorry if you think im rude, I just tell it like it is
I didn't think you were rude, maybe a little hostile.
Originally by: Mardonius
Edited by: Mardonius on 28/08/2006 00:20:31
It disappoints me sometimes to see how people respond to harmless questions such as yours. There simply isn't any need to be so belligerent. At the same time as an EVE pilot you seem to be attenuated from most of the player community. Anyway, I don't know enough about rare ships or battleships to comment on your set-up or answer your questions for you.
Thanks for the support but sometimes i think if there's no pain there's no gain, you can't toughen up unless you get beat down; like my pet puppy.
...j/k
Originally by: inSpirAcy
I'm not going to be a lifeless robot saying 'This setup needs improving with these steps and here's why'. I'm going to say it's rubbish (it is), try to characterise it (I could solo it in ship X) to put how rubbish it is into perspective, and then give constructive tips to improve it. 
If this was a newbie trying to figure out his first ship, I'd be a little more polite. But despite my EVE combat experience (and zero knowledge of manufacturing), if I wandered into the Market channel and said 'I'm going to buy a Carrier BPO, is my crazy component economics any good?' I would fully expect to be laughed at. Start small and work up, or I'd just take the ridicule a little less personally. 
But I like robots, and i am a noob, well sort off, at combat anyway.
But anyway the point of the post was to see if the mods i have on my ship actually work. And i appreciate the advise people have given but i'm not going to follow it, i'm still gonna buy expensive yet unpractical mods for my vindi cos all it is is just a carrier for my mods. I don't plan on pvp'ing, ever. I was just curious is all.
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Areconus
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Posted - 2006.08.28 01:04:00 -
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Edited by: Areconus on 28/08/2006 01:04:02
Originally by: Toman'Torax
Originally by: F4ze
Rarity and value: 9/10
How it would fare in pvp: 2/10
No armor hardeners or a DCU = bad bad bad.
If i get the remaining faction/officer mods that i listed would that rarity/value score go up to a 10?
Nahhhh, to get a 10/10, you would need a fed. mega(impossi ble) or navy(well i guess vindi compares to navy)...and the absolute best items.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:21:00 -
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Your ship lacks resistances, it doesnt matter if you have 2 uber godly reps if the armour you do have gets melted like butter on a hot day.
For the love of God train t2 blasters. You get a huge damage increase and then you can load t2 ammo for even more Godliness.
By the way, people get on your case because this thread screams "all the gear, no idea"
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:36:00 -
[34]
If that is the best set up you can come up with I strongly urge you to jump in a tech I frig and learn how to pvp, then a thorax, then a megathron, then maybe the vindi, by which time you wont be needing to ask this question.
Honostly I dont think I have seen a set up so bad, and I have to ask, did you buy ISK from ebay for this ship and its fittings? cant honestly see how someone with as much ISK as you have to buy such a ship and the modules is so clueless about fittings.
CEO - Art of War
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jbob2000
Gallente
The Taining corp
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:37:00 -
[35]
ebay ftw?
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Iota Belisarius
Procurare
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:59:00 -
[36]
Originally by: jbob2000
ebay ftw?
lol QFT. Seriously, 3 years and you don't even know how to equip a megathron?
Nice attempt to show off your stockpile of off the wall mods.
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.08.28 05:26:00 -
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My Navy Mega would chew up your Vindicator without you ever having a chance :-/
You go horribly wrong on tanking and t2 guns are way better cause of t2 ammo
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aquontium
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:28:00 -
[38]
to be quite frank, you're not listening to anyone here. why not ask the mods to close your topic?
1) you know the rarity.
2) you know the value.
value
about 4bn in goods.
if you quit, can i............
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saldorva
Amarr
Scorebag Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.28 09:26:00 -
[39]
Your Vindi makes me sad, as it sucks so much.
Shame on you for making such a fine ship, look like a bag of bolts. 
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Wrayeth
Omerta Syndicate
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 09:34:00 -
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I regret to report that any of my battleships would eat that vindicator for breakfast. You have to have your resists covered, otherwise you're just a paper tiger.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Benglada
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.08.28 09:38:00 -
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1x Selynne's Modified Power Diagnostic System
1x Raysere's Modified Power Diagnostic System
1x Tuvan's Modified Power Diagnostic System
1x power diagnostic II (To be replaced by another faction version once found)
WTF you bought this with gtcs didnt you?
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Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
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Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:00:00 -
[42]
OH LORD KILROCK I CALL APON THIE! PLEASE FLAME THIS NOOB! FLAME HIM IN HIS ****ING FACE!
FOR HE IS NOT WORTHY OF SUCH A SHIP!
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Lucian Alucard
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:02:00 -
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All those nice shiny pdu's,sell them.
your set up should have these....
Add another Nos and drop a gun then get 6 t2 Ions ((the less Cap use helps with the tanking while allowing you to use t2 ammo)
1 Heavy Electrochem. Cap Injector
1x Centus X-type LARP
1x 1600MM Rolled Tungsten Armor Plate
1x Internal Force Feild Array
1x Deadspace,Faction or Officer Energised Adaptive Nano Membranes
1x Deadspace,Faction or Officer Magnetic Stabilizer
1x Deadspace,Faction or Officer Tracking Enhancer
1x T2,Deadspace,Faction or Officer Reactor Control Unit
If you have any spare cash after selling some of your mods I sujest looking into a Snake set to use with this. The cap from the two nos and the Injector plus the lower cap drain from Ion IIs really does help a good deal, I know alot of Bthron pilots now use the top end named neuts since theres is only a .8 cap useage differance between Modal Neuts and Ion IIs, but on some of the tougher NPC's in the level 4s,T2 ammo really does go along way in easing the burden of soloin' the sucker. Not to mention the tracking is better with Ions  .
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Verus Potestas on 28/08/2006 10:05:41
He doesn't have to have bought it with GTCs, he could be an industrialist. Given some of the setups I have made explode and whose been flying them, I do not think that crap setups are a mark of a new player only, just carebears usually.
edit: I do not mean carebear as a derogatory term, just someone who does not PvP.
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hUssmann
Caldari
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:33:00 -
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Rarity of what? it being seen on a vindi? 10/10
Pvp ability 0/10 - You wouldn't even break my mega's shields, no offence.
Nerf GTC's
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Eris, no pink 'Eris woz 'ere 2006' kthx :)
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:12:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
OH LORD KILROCK I CALL APON THIE! PLEASE FLAME THIS NOOB! FLAME HIM IN HIS ****ING FACE!
FOR HE IS NOT WORTHY OF SUCH A SHIP!
Shush, I've been trying not to get perma-banned 
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:21:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Riho on 28/08/2006 11:24:46
i wouldnt fly the setup.... just couse its just too easy to kill
7x faction nuts (get t2.... better)
1x faction heavy nos
1x faction mwd
1x faction weby
1x faction scram
1x faction injector
1x faction scram/EW
2x faction reps
2x faction EANMs
3x faction something to fit it all and if room then 1x faction MFS
Edit: made a lil change
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:23:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Riho
i wouldnt fly the setup.... just couse its just too easy to kill
7x faction nuts
1x faction heavy nos
1x faction mwd
1x faction weby
1x faction scram
1x faction injector
1x faction scram/EW
2x faction reps
2x faction EANMs
3x faction something to fit it all and if room then 1x faction MFS
Yea, I hope you are trying to make fun of someone or you actually are suggesting something like that..
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:27:00 -
[49]
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: Riho
i wouldnt fly the setup.... just couse its just too easy to kill
7x faction nuts
1x faction heavy nos
1x faction mwd
1x faction weby
1x faction scram
1x faction injector
1x faction scram/EW
2x faction reps
2x faction EANMs
3x faction something to fit it all and if room then 1x faction MFS
Yea, I hope you are trying to make fun of someone or you actually are suggesting something like that..
is that so bad ?
i have no idea :P i fly thoraxes in pvp... he wanted faction junk on it so i suggest what i thought would be semi ok. i have never flown a blasterthron in pvp so i really have lil clue how to fit it :P
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:35:00 -
[50]
using items i already possessed i fitted this to mine as a relatively cheap setup that does the job reasonably well?
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/2006.08.21.16.40.12.png
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:46:00 -
[51]
Edited by: KilROCK on 28/08/2006 11:47:46
Originally by: slothe
using items i already possessed i fitted this to mine as a relatively cheap setup that does the job reasonably well?
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/2006.08.21.16.40.12.png
-You use neutrons.
-You make no use of the MWD bonus
-You have only a few thousand hitpoint overall.
-A weak tank.
-The same damage of a ganka neutron mega.
-100HP more than a normal mega.
-You can make use of your 5th midslot for a ECM module.
-You use Neutrons, You use null in them and you have a 10km scrambler.. That pretty much means you'll enter 10km while mwding, not exactly need that extra range you get from null since on neutron, you're already within your optimal with null.. You use a X5 web instead of a Fleeting when you already fly a faction ship with faction mods...
Waste of ship unless you can afford to lose it, otherwise it's not exactly better to use a vindicator like this than regular megathron.
Whatever floats your boat tho, Now that everyone saw that screenshot, they'll know you're a easy kill when they see you
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:57:00 -
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i said it was stuff i had already and didnt say it was my ultimate setup. i just posted it to give the op some general ideas of setups.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:01:00 -
[53]
Originally by: slothe
i said it was stuff i had already and didnt say it was my ultimate setup. i just posted it to give the op some general ideas of setups.
If he can't even figure out how to setup a vindicator, or a blasterthron in general, there's no good reason in giving him a kamikazee style setup..
But hey, I bet you contribute to the topic more than me.
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vyperpit
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:07:00 -
[54]
Yarrbbq
ok, first off you need t2 guns, forget the faction guns because they cant fit t2 ammo!!
7x ions blaster cannon T2
faction mwd[this might be a prob because they tend to use more cpu than the t2 kind!]
30km warp desrupter, 15km web, another 30km desrupter, a faction cap injecter
2x best faction energized adaptive nanos, 1x best named/cosmos dcu, 2x best armor reps, 2x SS mag stabs
if that last high fits with a nos u got a winner, but i dont think it does, so add perhaps a cruise launcher and if that dont fit a med faction nos
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:08:00 -
[55]
Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 28/08/2006 11:57:05
Originally by: slothe
using items i already possessed i fitted this to mine as a relatively cheap setup that does the job reasonably well?
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/2006.08.21.16.40.12.png
-You use neutrons.
-You make no use of the MWD bonus
-You have only a few thousand hitpoint overall.
-A weak tank.
-The same damage of a ganka neutron mega.
-100HP more than a normal mega, Repairing wise
-You can make use of your 5th midslot for a ECM module.
-You use Neutrons, You use null in them and you have a 10km scrambler.. That pretty much means you'll enter 10km while mwding, not exactly in need that extra range you get from null since on neutron, you're already within your optimal with null.. You use a X5 web instead of a Fleeting when you already fly a faction ship with faction mods...
-What the hell at putting MWD / Cap injector / 6 guns on your F1 - f8 keys and putting another gun on the second row.. Infact, what the hell at all of it.
-You actually have stations on your overview?
So we got, weak tank, Weak damage since you use Null, Maybe if you fitted void you'd kill something before you die, when it comes to battleships..
Waste of ship unless you can afford to lose it, otherwise it's not exactly better to use a vindicator like this than regular megathron.
Whatever floats your boat tho, Now that everyone saw that screenshot, they'll know you're a easy kill when they see you
In a gang neutron+null is very valuable. less mwding, so you get better hits and optimal can hit enemy bs from far out (far in blasterterms).
But yes i wouldnt use neutron 2 on a vindicator, i used to have one and fitted it out with 7 electron + 1 nos and tanking in low...
One hint, our corp went up against a good ammount of domi's featuring multispec 2 and nos...I had a 96%backuparray (med slot) and thus couldnt scramble (only web). Every single cycle failed, while the domi's tried to EW mofo the gang.
With vindi in gang you can fit 2X of those and only a web, but you really wont be *that* concerned with jammers anymore. Most people use multispec anyway and those fail horrible vs such a setup.
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jbob2000
Gallente
The Taining corp
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.28 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
My Navy Mega would chew up your Vindicator without you ever having a chance :-/
You go horribly wrong on tanking and t2 guns are way better cause of t2 ammo
Your navy mega destroys everything
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