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Posted - 2014.12.29 11:51:32 -
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900 incoming!
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Posted - 2015.01.01 10:32:38 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P buy orders in jita are 750 atm. wowsers now at 788 / 773 ![Shocked](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) Prices usually hit a high around Thursday/Friday...
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Posted - 2015.02.02 23:54:07 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote: I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen
I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start? Not sure. 1st noticed a couple days ago by accident. Just a few days, my guess on its date was a week or so early :(
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Posted - 2015.02.24 18:57:03 -
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They usually drop after an update, and return or spike a couple weeks later.
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:48:05 -
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erg cz wrote:Koniforous wrote:They usually drop after an update, and return or spike a couple weeks later. Did you actually checked the link I posted? PLEX value drops over last 90 days and keep going that way. No real spikes. I did not check your link. I have made the majority of my wealth from plex flipping, including riding the waves the follow a patch, and I have my own personal experience and wallet to prove my statement for me, I'm not really interested if you disagree with me or mot because I know my investment practices in plex and plex behavior have proven correct. Prices are high before a patch (when I sell to have the liquid needed for...), quickly plummet a few weeks after a patch (when I buy), supply is choked and briefly prices spike (when I sell), and then normalize to just before patch prices and continue on with their downward trend.
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:12:29 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Koniforous wrote:erg cz wrote:Koniforous wrote:They usually drop after an update, and return or spike a couple weeks later. Did you actually checked the link I posted? PLEX value drops over last 90 days and keep going that way. No real spikes. I did not check your link. I have made the majority of my wealth from plex flipping, including riding the waves the follow a patch, and I have my own personal experience and wallet to prove my statement for me, I'm not really interested if you disagree with me or mot because I know my investment practices in plex and plex behavior have proven correct. Prices are high before a patch (when I sell to have the liquid needed for...), quickly plummet a few weeks after a patch (when I buy), supply is choked and briefly prices spike (when I sell), and then normalize to just before patch prices and continue on with their downward trend. You can say that all you want to, but evidence from API is to the contrary. Other than the summer slow rise there has been negative pressure on plex for a year. No spikes, no dips from patches. Historically before that there are spikes AT patch dates and after from returning players, but not before and certainly no crashes after a patch. I must have found a market leprechaun then, turning what a graph says should be losses into billions of profit. This can only mean one thing: Half life 3 confirmed!
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:19:03 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:hey friends wrote:Quote:
I would argue that PLEX bought does not = profit for CCP until it is utilized. Remember they are a Corporation that has to follow accounting standards and practices.
not sure if youre trolling or what but by that logic lets say i sell sodapop irl you buy one but i dont profit until you open it and drink it You are bad at accounting. When I buy a sodapop you have fulfilled your obligation. Think of PLEX like a giftcard or a prepaid credit card... now apply your wrong logic. This is exactly why I support the selling of skill remaps for plex. Anything that destroys a plex without redeeming game time is the same as ccp lending money to someone and then that someone says its ok nevermind you can just keep the money, and that will be good for ccp, and more money in their wallet means more development And improvements on eve.
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:29:54 -
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Is it plausible that ccp is the primary entity keeping prices around 800mil? They've said their central bank intervenes when prices increase too fast, but with a new operator, maybe the bank attempts to maintain a steady price against decreases also. Call me a n00b, but it just seems a little far fetched that a pilot or pilot entity can possess enough market force to keep something like plex at a steady ~800mil, but for someone with unbounded access to banned assets and banned accounts it would be an easy thing to accomplish.
Maybe the central bank aims for a specific rate of price growth?
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Posted - 2015.04.16 05:21:34 -
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GankYou wrote:Koniforous wrote:They've said their central bank intervenes when prices increase too fast Oooh, could you be so kind as to direct me to learning more details on this most curious facility? Thank you. ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) Google...
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Posted - 2015.04.30 19:08:30 -
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Gank, where do you see plex prices at in December? Based on your graphing, and also in separate based on your intuition? I'm guessing this will be a temporary damper to the price rise and when its done plex will recover quickly to slightly below 900mil, and achieve ~1bil by December.
Edit: How do plex for goods affect the price of plex? Anyone know? I've never bothered to investigate. I would think it would increase price, and if ccp gets approval for the Nepal plex for good prices could retrace much fast....
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:20:50 -
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Is the sale over? If prices continue to rise I'd expect the sale to continue, or a new one to be announced soon....
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Posted - 2015.05.06 14:54:45 -
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They had sale after sale last year while prices were experiencing wild fluctuations. I don't think ccp aims to maintain a specific price, but rather, a specific rate of price increase. I've suspected that when prices increase by ~100mil within only a few days/weeks, ccp intervenes with a sale, and if prices continue rising, they begin selling off banned account plex to buy orders for less than the order is posted. I'm more concerned about ccp's long term promise of game time via purchased plex, and how they plan to handle it.
I foresee a LOT more uses of plex in the future that completely destroy the plex [releasing ccp from promised game time (releasing ccp from paying back a loan/bond purchased by a pilot)]. Whether or not this will make prices rise though is beyond my scope, I would guess prices would rise however if supply becomes limited. But with ever increasing ways to use plex, new players would have to continue coming into the game for supplies to remain high and isk values to remain low. Something I'd guess won't happen unless ccp does something like blizzard did with cataclysm and change their entire eve universe upside down (a path we seem to be on.)
Blah blah blah
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Posted - 2015.05.06 17:09:48 -
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Could it be that the main reason for gradual price increase of plex is due to the very mechanic ccp uses to lower prices? Plex sales.
I wonder if plex price acts like fiat currency inflation, that to lower rates more plex is pumped into the system lowering prices for short time, and then elevating prices in long term because of speculative traders buying plex and holding them thus shortening the supply.
Either way, I foresee prices continually rising also. I'd guess that with more and more ways to use/destroy plex, we will see higher and higher prices of plex, resulting in more pilots subbing with cash, not plex. This will have a slowing effect on price increase.
I'm not sure how less speculative buying and a shrinking supply of pilots that buy plex for cash to pump into the economy will affect the price though. I imagine with everything turning to aurum, demand for plex might decrease, prices might fall, and eventually we may see an aurum dominated market just before ccp decides to get rid of plex and deal strictly with aurum. I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 18:09:20 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:I will say this much - number don't lie ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Its going to be interesting times ahead ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) Someone's needs to make a graph overlay of 1.plex prices, 2.new players, 3.overall population, 4.plex sale dates and duration, 5.amount of plex purchased/sold, 6. Aurum stuff
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Posted - 2015.05.06 18:22:15 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:I got one for private use, minus the Auruum ![Shocked](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) I'm too lazy or I'd make one and post it on MD forums. Share it with us! I'd like to see aurum prices, aurum sales, and even aurum token prices on it too, I think those would be good indicators.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:21:01 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:That is far too short-term sighted. CCP wants cheap plex because they want more subscription numbers. As it is we are dropping again at 2013 rates. Seeing average users down almost 10k from this time last year.
CCP wants a healthy balance where people will still buy Plex but not too high that people start leaving or hibernating accounts. As long as PLEX is being consumed, I don't think they much care where it's going, subs or services. And PLEX is cheap, the effort you gave to put in to PLEX is minimal. It's not as cheap as the laziest casuals would like, but it's not them it's serving. If everyone could just PLEX their accounts with a couple of hours of effort, you'd find PLEX prices increasing even more rapidly, as demand shoots up while supply drops off. All the time prices are naturally rising it means tht supply is still chasing demand, which is ideal. I tell you what though, if they ever did decide to try to force a price cap, you'd see the economy crash faster than you can imagine when the long-term investors cash out. Quite honestly, I think what you've got there is wishful thinking. Reality is that CCP will let PLEX continue fairly naturally, which means up. Occasionally, however, the short in supply due to demand is driven by speculative investors, and that is not healthy for the economy, nor for ccp as a business.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:45:56 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Koniforous wrote: Occasionally, however, the short in supply due to demand is driven by speculative investors, and that is not healthy for the economy, nor for ccp as a business.
Make sure and phone BP and Exxon-Mobil to inform them that speculators are bad for business. Give us a detailed write-up of how long they spend laughing at you. I never said they were bad for business, I said bad for the economy. More specifically, I said when demand driven price increase is caused primarily by investors it is bad for the economy.
The housing bubble and its collapse is one such example.
I guess I did! But that was intended differently....
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:49:14 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Lucas pls.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:56:29 -
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Koniforous wrote:Gank, where do you see plex prices at in December? Based on your graphing, and also in separate based on your intuition? I'm guessing this will be a temporary damper to the price rise and when its done plex will recover quickly to slightly below 900mil, and achieve ~1bil by December.
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Posted - 2015.09.09 06:12:58 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:1.1 billion for a PLEX ... WTF is going on? I thought it would stop at 1 bill and then go down again. Why is it still increasing so much? Have i missed a new ISK faucet? Is there a problem with PLEX supply? (i.e. Are the players just hoarding PLEX en masse as gold reserve?) Skins keep releasing, without any recent plex sales
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Posted - 2015.09.09 11:34:39 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:Koniforous wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:1.1 billion for a PLEX ... WTF is going on? I thought it would stop at 1 bill and then go down again. Why is it still increasing so much? Have i missed a new ISK faucet? Is there a problem with PLEX supply? (i.e. Are the players just hoarding PLEX en masse as gold reserve?) Skins keep releasing, without any recent plex sales There was a sale last week :) It must not have ran for very long? I really should log in once in a while....
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Posted - 2016.01.22 13:34:16 -
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Damn, it feels good to be a plexta.
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