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u3pog
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Posted - 2015.05.07 16:36:25 -
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Jori McKie wrote:There is market manipulation that i have no doubt. The question is how much influence does it have? My take is not that much, you can't manipulate a downsizing/upsizing massive market into the complete opposite for a longer time period or in other words you can't reverse a market trend longterm you can just enhance it. Of course with enough ISK and time you could do that to smaller market getting the price to a new level but you will accumulate a lot of overpriced stuff while doing it.
The only group who could manipulate PLEX longterm are alliances with a high income per month due to renting or massive numbers like Goons, PL or NC and i guess that is who is Angelica Everstar referring to. But i might be totally wrong because i'm not privy to insider information.
There could be few individuals who could do this. I was astounded when I saw bids for super rare ships...People threw trillions of ISK like they were spare cash. However I saw someone mention CCP might ban people for massive manipulations of PLEX and they just might fall into that category, so no wonder why they ain't doing it.
I used to think 10 trillion is a lot of ISK, but to some people it might not be. What's the point of going over 1T ISK is beyond me, when there are so many other things to be done...Interesting times, I wonder how far will the PLEX price go prior 2nd of June. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.06.21 11:46:14 -
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Asinar, do like I did. I used to do missions and at some point I saw it isn't enough and it's very time consuming as you've said.
So? I tried doing something else, there are many ways to earn ISK in the game. And you know what? It worked! In just one year and something I was able to accumulate enough ISK to subscribe for the next 10 years! And I put a lot less effort into it, It just took some time to know what I am doing.
My only problem is that I don't want to stop now that my wallet is full. I want more and more :P And this is where alts come in...While making ISK with one account, you can freely do whatever you like with another.
The way I see It I won't stop playing even if PLEX goes up beyond 2-3 billion, maybe this will force me to stop any alts, but as long as I have ISK I will pay with it, because I don't have a lot of spare real money to spend. Yes, I remember when it used to be 300 mil, but there's no going back. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.08.24 22:37:42 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:CCP has provided us with so many options for making isk.
Each account can host three characters and each character can host:
305 market orders
11 manufacturing jobs
11 science jobs
21 personal contracts
60 corporation contracts (and even more contracts to corporation members)
6 command centers for PI
6 R&D agents for datacores
On top of that, you can run as many of the following as you can handle:
Moon mining POSes
Reaction POSes
Syphons on other peoples moon mining and reaction POSes
Customs offices
Forum posts that generate isk by various means (shops, services and scams)
All this before you consider fully active grinding with one character on the account doing PvE or whatever.
So with all that at your disposal, if you can't make bags of isk each month then you have to be doing something wrong. You have options to choose from regardless of whether you lack SP or isk. You just need to invest some time and effort in finding something that works within your limitations. If you can't afford that time and effort, minimal as it may be, then you can't really expect riches.
Couldn't have said it better. You are my EVE Jesus.  Now I know why some people have 20-30 alts...They must have found the right formulae.
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u3pog
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:01:44 -
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Currently less than 250 PLEX left in Jita...Sellers are waiting for higher prices or simply low supply? |
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Posted - 2015.08.25 20:50:21 -
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1110m and counting! New records, at that rate we could reach 1.5 billion tomorrow... |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.08.26 15:19:32 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:u3pog wrote:1110m and counting! New records, at that rate we could reach 1.5 billion tomorrow... First of all, what happened to the Ministry of Defence? And reading this thread makes me wonder what the price will be by the time I get back home in October. Crikey!
Nothing lasts forever. Vacation is over, time to pay attention to real life for a while. Some day...
I remember when PLEX was stable at around 500 mil mark, then suddently it went up in a matter of months, same thing is happening now, it will stabilize, I just wonder when...Long term though it's not going to stop. When I began playing it was less than 300 mil...
So like ori McKie said, it's always a good idea to stockpile in the right time, however in his case that must have been 400-500 PLEXes, not everyone can invest that much. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.08.28 12:29:36 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Rykker Bow wrote:I actually ran out of liquid isk yesterday ridding plex. I love unstable markets, preferably when I create them myself but I'm happy to ride them when I see them. I put 7b+ profits in the books yesterday.
I do well in seeing short term trends and futures, but what does the long term future hold for plex?? Sudden spikes in price will always bring in new investors. You'll probably witness another price hike before it falls. My question is how has it taken so long to go from 900 to here? Shouldn't we be at 2 bil already? I know hard core ratters can farm 25+ bil/month in null so its not a matter of having a price that's too high.
CCP Terminus wrote:
We've seen over the years a fairly consistent percentage of our player base PLEX their accounts. If this percentage begins to decline consistently, and is not being counteracted by an increase in subscriber counts, then I'm sure we would take a look in to the system.
So far, to my knowledge, even with the ruble plummeting recently, the overall subscriber ratio hasn't really been affected. People who couldn't afford to pay subscription began PLEXing their accounts. The same is true in reverse for the PLEX speculation spike that happened late last year. The overall subscriber count wasn't really affected. After the Black Friday PLEX sale PLEX prices hovered steadily around 800m ISK for around 4 months.
That's CCP's explanation on the steady prices. It's player driven market anyway, so they are not obliged to react, but they observe it anyway. I am sure CCP keep an eye on this thread too. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.09.10 11:01:18 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:If one was to had bought 1.200 PLEX for 1b each, for a total of 1.2t ISK. And was to sell them at 1,15b each after taxes and fees. One would make 180b profit. Now, that would be a nice profit 
I have the feeling I know who's that one...  |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.09.15 09:24:20 -
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I made an experiment yesterday - grind missions for few hours, I made about 300 million. In one day. If someone wants to play this game, but can't afford it with real money, then they should put some effort in it. PLEX has been near a billion for quite some time, I don't think -¦200 mil are that much of an issue. Even if you don't grind few hours per day, 1 week should be absolutely enough to earn that PLEX, so you can do whatever you do till the end of the month.
Also, as Bad Bobby said earlier, each character can have up to 305 market orders, 11 manufacture and science jobs, 21 contracts, 21 R&D agents and so on, and you have 3 characters per account, so if you can't make enough ISK to buy a PLEX, then you are doing it wrong.
People keep creating new threads, omg PLEX is 1 bil, then new one PLEX reached 1.2!! I guess they gonna keep doing it with every 100 mil it goes up, but by now everyone should know that it's price won't stop rising, so...
...PLEX is so cheap right now, compared to what will it be in 1-2 years, buy buy buy. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:43:45 -
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This is the current situation with EVE. Eve doesn't care about people's real life, EVE cares for your money or your ISK. What are you going to do is your problem. As harsh as it may sound, that's the truth.
It's the same in real life. I like BMW, I can go to Munchen and say "Could you please do something about the price, because I have many things to do, my job sucks and can't afford one?" Well, that's my problem. If I can't afford one, I don't drive BMW. Simple as that.
That being said, CCP won't and shouldn't interfere too much with the market and particulary with PLEX, after all it's player driven one. They do it only when things go out of hand too quickly. |
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u3pog
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Posted - 2015.09.15 23:19:41 -
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Just gave away one...for 233 ISK! Gratz to the winner I usually type numbers with the numpad, however this time my little finger just had the urge to click enter, no warning message, no nothing...weird. As a friend suggested - remove it. 
...I'll do it - here goes away...the enter key  |
u3pog
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Posted - 2015.09.16 19:14:17 -
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Malcanis wrote:Leetmcfeet wrote:
Don't expect CCP to bail out the plex economy this time; the reserves simply are not there
Source?
Crystal ball.
Price is backing up now, but not for long. Few people decided it's time to sell. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2016.04.16 18:42:48 -
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Yeah, I think that he/she is happy with the current prices and has 10 days to collect before the release of "Citadels" . In the o7 show there was a financial report, according to which after the release, PLEX might reach 1.2 bil mark...200 Billion ISK, not a bad profit. Of course we all have our hangars full, waiting...for the force to be awaken. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2016.04.16 18:43:48 -
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Double post. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2016.04.27 20:48:06 -
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I think someone doesn't want PLEX below 949 999 999.99 ISK...There must be 20K pieces in buy orders at that price. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2016.04.28 18:48:46 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:u3pog wrote:I think someone doesn't want PLEX below 949 999 999.99 ISK...There must be 20K pieces in buy orders at that price. 20,000 / 20% = 20,000 x 0.20 = 4,000 PLExes x 949,999,999.99 ISK (or 949.9m ISK, or 0.949b ISK) = The result is out of range. = 37,999,999.996m ISK. (In supposed profit, way over the cost of a Citadel.) = 37,999.99b ISK = 37.99T ISK, or enough for an XL Citadel + a Palatine / Palladium. Also, it is extremely hard to conspire to do good. These orders are bogus. You can confirm it by importing the prices in a sheet. (margin trading scam)
Why would someone waste lots of billions of ISK in broker fee for a scam? Plus I don't see how buy orders with min volume of 1 and such a low price is a scam...
To me this looks like stockpiling for the cold winter. You know, "winter is coming" and all that...Maybe a coallition which already lost a lot. It just looks too much for a single person's pocket. |
u3pog
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Posted - 2016.04.28 23:26:33 -
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Zahara Cody wrote:Why in the hell would he need 400 something bil if he has the cheese to put up 38 tril worth of buy orders? 
He should skip the PLEX thing and just save for the Palatine citadel, so he can get an achievement...oh wait, that's another game. 
What a turn of events, eh? From 1350 mil right after the injector fever, down to less than a billion in 2 months. I wonder where we're headed next... |
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