I doubt there would be many people willing to spend real money to influence the market price...

But this only if CCP will consider that the plex price manipulation is becoming a real problem.

Almost all plexes were bought with real money. Why shouln-¦t anyone be able to buy und resell them like anything else?

Market manipulation is not an automatic evil, it is an acknowledged and viable play style and method.
Where manipulation damages the game, then an issue has developed, and will need addressing to keep the game healthy.

Has the plex price caused or is causing harm to the game? That is harder to ascertain.
If It is causing harm then CCP have the tools to burst the bubble, reducing the price, and discouraging "bad" behaviour in the future.

They will no doubt be asking whether this is manipulation alone, or is there a group somehow creating free isk through some exploit. If so expect that to be found and a rebalancing to real isk creation will occur, together with the plex price.

We have no way of knowing ourselves, but the current price discourages people from using their ISK reserves to buy a plex to swap for gametime.

That may or may not be healthy, but either way it is annoying. And it does lead to fewer accounts signed in and in space. And the more it rises, the fewer are plexed.

Free market means free market if you can't afford the plex try paying for this game you play.

if they are selling for this much people are willing to buy them for that much


Edit: besides higher plex prices are better for CCP as people will be willing to buy more so they can get quick isk and thus CCP gets more money

Lol, non sequitur. It's not like I have the magic crystal ball to see what will CCP's position be in the future.

Free market means free market if you can't afford the plex try paying for this game you play.

if they are selling for this much people are willing to buy them for that much

PLEX...cartels...

No no no, first you must show that player manipulation of PLEX prices is an issue to begin with. You are basing your argument on an unsupported assumption.

Truly free markets are not a good thing, they certainly don't work in the real world.

Lots of people come to EVE because it offers a F2P payment plan without the F2P game model, $180 a year is a lot to pay for a game.

If they are selling for this much it means rich players are willing to buy them for this much. This means that the established vet population is determining whether or not the new players can afford to PLEX.

CCP needs to take steps to avoid PLEX hitting the 1bil line but I don't think your plan is so great OP, honestly I would rather the PLEX market was just more heavily regulated. For example adding NPC sell orders to put a hard cap on the price.

Read above. Dude, just. Stop. Posting...

You have failed to establish the existence of a cartel in the market before asserting its existence as part of an argument. Please, continue with your antics. I find them amusing.

Let's not get into a debate on how speculation and cartels kill free market.

The whole sentence is this and I can't fine the PLEX anywhere in it. Also please tell me how this is false, be it IRL or EVE:
Let's not get into a debate on how speculation and cartels kill free market.

Also please spend some time and tell me how the Stack system is killing the plex market, how it kills demand and offer, how it is capping the price of plex, how is preventing you to hoard them, how it prevents you to use them as you actually do. The only thing that it does is stopping flipping. And if you're considering that speculation is actually healthy for a free market, please explain. It would be nice to see how the speculation bubble that lead to the 2008 depression actually helped the economy.

I never said that the stack system would kill the PLEX market or cap prices. That was a different post in response to another poster proposing a price cap. Please learn to read. Although it may kill the PLEX market in certain parts of low and null. Also, once again, EVE is not a real economy.

Also you are assuming that PLEX flipping is occurring often enough to be an issue. You need to prove that before proposing changes to correct the issue.

I see. How it would kill the plex market in certain parts? Since plex originally created keeps having the same properties as it has now? As long as it doesn't go into the Stack, nothing changes. In order for a plex to go to the stack it should be bought from market.

The issue at hand is that plex is the only item in EVE that behaves like RL gold. So, CCP should either introduce more items that could be used as hedge against inflation in order to ease the pressure on plex or making the plex to stop behaving like RL gold and turn it to be just like all other items in EVE (like the Stack system does).

Because you wouldn't be able to buy PLEX in Jita and ship it to low/null for resale.

The pressure relief valves for PLEX prices are people deciding to pay their accounts with real money instead of PLEX and more people deciding to sell PLEX for ISK. Too many people with a "free to play" mentality are the issue. Fortunately this issue is a self correcting one.

However PLEX is created and destroyed in large quantities every day. This is very different from gold. PLEX is closer to something like cars or paper plates, new ones are constantly being made and old ones are constantly being destroyed all over the place.

Granted people do store PLEX sometimes for long term investment, but not the way that governments store gold.

Also, unlike PLEX (so far), the price of gold does not always go up. It goes up and down like anything else based on demand.

Nope, that's not a release pressure valve, you're just limiting consumption which is bad for CCP. The Stack system doesn't limit consumption.

Looking at the graphs, more plex is created than destroyed every day.

You're wrong again, looking at the graphs and at what CCP is saying, people actually do store plex like that./quote]
Sorry but no. You have no idea how governments hoard gold and regulate its import and export do you? Why do you think international flights require you declare "monetary instruments" upon entering a country?

[quote=Dianalexia]Yeah, plex price except for minor a minor recoil is always going up for reasons already stated.