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Rain Amekage
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:17:41 -
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I've come to an interesting point while analyzing CCP Seagull's speech in Vegas.
CODE may very well be CCP's High Sec Militia.
Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Thank you for reading,
Rain.
"Remember the sacrifices made, and die upon a mountain of your enemies."
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7186
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:19:31 -
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CHODE shilling alt detected.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Rain Amekage
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:21:31 -
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Doc Fury wrote:
CHODE shilling alt detected.
I'm sorry, what??
"Remember the sacrifices made, and die upon a mountain of your enemies."
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
275
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:24:53 -
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Rain Amekage wrote:I've come to an interesting point while analyzing CCP Seagull's speech in Vegas.
CODE may very well be CCP's High Sec Militia.
Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Thank you for reading,
Rain.
Not sure how a group of -10 criminal suicide gankers could be described as a "High Sec Militia." |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1282
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:31:26 -
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Rain Amekage wrote:I've come to an interesting point while analyzing CCP Seagull's speech in Vegas.
CODE may very well be CCP's High Sec Militia.
Seems legit. CODE. is an upstanding organization that clearly cares about the health of high-sec space.
CCP has no sense of humour.
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Paranoid Loyd
2609
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:34:08 -
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Please elaborate, how did you come to such a conclusion?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Xercodo
Vector Galactic
Did he say Jump
3835
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:49:32 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Please elaborate, how did you come to such a conclusion?
Yeah, wat.
The Drake is a Lie
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Paranoid Loyd
2612
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Posted - 2014.11.14 04:02:02 -
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Umm, thanks for the like, Rain but I actually wanted an answer...
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Rain Amekage
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.14 04:03:06 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Please elaborate, how did you come to such a conclusion?
I meant it as more of a joke than anything, but since the feedback has been very positive, I will do my best to answer your question(s).
CCP insists that Eve is a game made for players in a player driven world. Everything is engineered to focus around player interaction and what ensues.
There are no rules in place to limit CODE's activities, nor do I likely see them being implemented in the future. Yet the jump capabilities of nearly every ship type have been nerfed with the Phoebe release.
There are an exceptional amount of individuals who complain about being ganked by CODE while CODE sits back, sips their Lipton Tea and sorts through cry-mails at their leisure. CCP does not condone CODE's actions, nor do they promote them. They maintain an air of ambiguity regarding this issue.
I composed this because I'm neutral on this issue. The pendulum swings both ways. Both parties are at fault in the result of a High Security Space "Gank."
Hopefully this sheds some light on your answer, Mr. Loyd.
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Mr. Belvar, I completely agree. "Militia" was used in an improper context. I would say that CODE could be considered an "Unchecked Anarchy."
"Remember the sacrifices made, and die upon a mountain of your enemies."
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
76
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Posted - 2014.11.14 04:11:38 -
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When people say "content", they actually always never not mean "conflict".
If you remember that, EVE will make a lot more sense to you I promise.
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Paranoid Loyd
2613
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Posted - 2014.11.14 05:13:48 -
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Rain Amekage wrote:I meant it as more of a joke than anything, but since the feedback has been very positive, I will do my best to answer your question(s). I realize that, I just wanted to know if you actually had anything to say besides the same old rhetoric, thank you for your reply.
Rain Amekage wrote:There are no rules in place to limit CODE's activities, nor do I likely see them being implemented in the future. Yet the jump capabilities of nearly every ship type have been nerfed with the Phoebe release. The two points you bring up are unrelated. You did not convey how the part about jump drives relates to CODE. and their "High Sec Militia" status so I will not address that.
There are plenty of rules in place to limit CODE's activities, they have simply chosen to understand them and minimize the limitations. From my observations they are actually quite inefficient at this minimization but their numbers more than make up for that. So if CODE is guilty of anything it is having too many friends in a multi-player game.
Rain Amekage wrote:There are an exceptional amount of individuals who complain about being ganked by CODE You seem to be eluding that their ganking is excessive based on the amount of complaining you hear. The simple fact that CODE uses tears as their propaganda (read:"marketing engine") is the only reason you have this perception. The isk comes from the stories, the stories are created from the isk. It's the perfect model for the social experience that is EVE. As long as they play within the rules "an exceptional amount of complaining" is not a sufficient reason to take action. The fact of the matter is no one besides CCP knows what excessive ganking is so the fact that more people are talking about it has no bearing on what is actually excessive.
Rain Amekage wrote: while CODE sits back, sips their Lipton Tea and sorts through cry-mails at their leisure. Now see the former comment, does not coincide with latter comment. So I hope you'll understand if I am skeptical about the latter.
Rain Amekage wrote:I composed this because I'm neutral on this issue. The pendulum swings both ways. Both parties are at fault in the result of a High Security Space "Gank."
CCP does not condone CODE's actions, nor do they promote them. They maintain an air of ambiguity regarding this issue. If I'm an arms dealer selling to both sides of the conflict would it be wise to choose a side?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Arla Sarain
111
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Posted - 2014.11.14 08:52:34 -
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The CODE Militia.
Sounds lame, don't it? |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
376
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Posted - 2014.11.14 10:07:54 -
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News at 11: Extortion racket is now called a militia.  |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.11.14 10:31:47 -
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CODE would be going too far if they started ganking rookie systems. As far as I'm aware, they don't. So stop complaining.
It's pretty funny that you talk them up as if they were invincible. In reality, anyone can sit outside Boundless Creation in Hek, or any other place, and just Blap their puny Destroyers with insta-locking Tech III's.
It's really not that hard. Anyone with negative 10 security status can be shot anywhere without penalty. |
Vera Denjuros
Murderbears Inc.
18
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Posted - 2014.11.14 11:42:50 -
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Rain Amekage wrote:[quote=Paranoid Loyd]
There are an exceptional amount of individuals who complain about being ganked by CODE while CODE sits back, sips their Lipton Tea and sorts through cry-mails at their leisure. CCP does not condone CODE's actions, nor do they promote them. They maintain an air of ambiguity regarding this issue.
Suicide ganking is allowed under the rules. This has been stated time and time again. There is absolutely no ambiguity whatsoever on the matter.
CODE does an amazing piece of civil service. As a miner myself, I applaud their work. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Cynosural Field Theory.
1417
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Posted - 2014.11.14 12:19:00 -
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it would be the best troll in a decade.
inb4 James315 is Greyscale
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5500
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:02:51 -
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Rain Amekage wrote:I've come to an interesting point while analyzing CCP Seagull's speech in Vegas.
CODE may very well be CCP's High Sec Militia.
Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Thank you for reading,
Rain.
In before ISD chides you for not posting constructively and/or rumor-mongering.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
79
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:07:49 -
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I just learned that CCP uses CODE to create everything we know as EVE Online.
Without CODE this game would not exist!
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Heather Austrene
Fried Liver Attack
27
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:43:45 -
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I don't particularly applaud CODE, but along with similar groups they are necessary to the game. They provide a level of tension to hisec without which things would be even more dull and stagnation would occur. IMO a game shouldn't be so stupidly easy that you can "win" by just absently playing. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5152
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:56:11 -
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Jvpiter wrote:
I just learned that CCP uses CODE to create everything we know as EVE Online.
Without CODE this game would not exist!
I blame them for the POS CODE.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Serene Repose
1622
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Posted - 2014.11.14 14:09:36 -
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Looks like the ranks of Try Not To Think '14 has no shortage of candidates!
CODE is a subsidiary of Goonfwaffle. CCP likes Goonwaffle (and has members in it), so CCP likes CODE by default.
It's your typical social syllogism. (The "if/then" process that determines who gets to sit at what table in the lunchroom.)
CCP like us blowing each other up. They call that "player created content." As far as I know CCP is the only group (which is socially and legally accepted) that defines destruction as creation. Their stated reasoning behind this is, destroyed ships cause people to shop, so destroying ships is good for the market. It's a lot like Scrooge saying we need to control the "surplus population." ('T is the season to be jolly!)
As soon as CODE doesn't fit this rather interesting "matrix" (I just had to go there) CODE will become just another
group of paying customers (not worthy of serious attention, or CCP's drinkin' buddies), except CODE pays in PLEX,
not in CASH - like I do.
I hope this further clarifies matters for you. If not, you're better off figuring out the plot twists in
The Young And The Restless.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9008
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Posted - 2014.11.14 14:19:22 -
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Jvpiter wrote:
When people say "content", they actually always never not mean "conflict".
If you remember that, EVE will make a lot more sense to you I promise.
Not just EVE, but the whole world. People don't turn on the nightly news to hear "nope, no news today, everyone got along and nobody important died today" lol
Peace, happiness and sunshine are the least interesting things in any universe (virtual or not).
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9008
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Posted - 2014.11.14 14:24:58 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Looks like the ranks of Try Not To Think '14 has no shortage of candidates! CODE is a subsidiary of Goonfwaffle. CCP likes Goonwaffle (and has members in it), so CCP likes CODE by default. It's your typical social syllogism. (The "if/then" process that determines who gets to sit at what table in the lunchroom.) CCP like us blowing each other up. They call that "player created content." As far as I know CCP is the only group (which is socially and legally accepted) that defines destruction as creation. Their stated reasoning behind this is, destroyed ships cause people to shop, so destroying ships is good for the market. It's a lot like Scrooge saying we need to control the "surplus population." ('T is the season to be jolly!) As soon as CODE doesn't fit this rather interesting "matrix" (I just had to go there) CODE will become just another group of paying customers (not worthy of serious attention, or CCP's drinkin' buddies), except CODE pays in PLEX, not in CASH - like I do. I hope this further clarifies matters for you. If not, you're better off figuring out the plot twists in The Young And The Restless.
Why exactly do you play EVE is you have such a problem with CCPs (and thus, EVE's) philosophy. Hell, why do you play a video game at all if 'destruction' is somehow abhorrent to you?
I mean really, this post sounds like the kind of butt hurt conspiracy thinking ("you know the principal was in the Jocks pocket right?") I heard at my 1st high school reunion from people who still couldn't get over 'the mean people' they stopped having to deal with 10 years earlier... |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
21515
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Posted - 2014.11.14 14:35:26 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Looks like the ranks of Try Not To Think '14 has no shortage of candidates! You're right but your statement doesn't apply to the people you think it applies to.
Quote:CODE is a subsidiary of Goonfwaffle. CCP likes Goonwaffle (and has members in it), so CCP likes CODE by default.
Citation needed on all counts.
Quote:CCP like us blowing each other up. They call that "player created content." As far as I know CCP is the only group (which is socially and legally accepted) that defines destruction as creation. Their stated reasoning behind this is, destroyed ships cause people to shop, so destroying ships is good for the market. Their game, their definitions, their rules, their reasoning. Don't like it? Leave.
Quote:As soon as CODE doesn't fit this rather interesting "matrix" (I just had to go there) CODE will become just another
group of paying customers (not worthy of serious attention, or CCP's drinkin' buddies), except CODE pays in PLEX,
not in CASH - like I do. Every PLEX in circulation is paid for with CASH, and generally costs more than a sub. Ergo CCP, indirectly, make more money from those that pay their sub with PLEX than those who pay their sub with cash.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Serene Repose
1622
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Posted - 2014.11.14 15:10:09 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Don't like it? Leave.
Suggestion: Get a dog. Order it around. He'll love you for it. woof woof
As far as your other, pedestrian comments? Unworthy of a response.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
21518
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Posted - 2014.11.14 15:33:47 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Don't like it? Leave. Suggestion: Get a dog. Order it around. He'll love you for it. woof woof As far as your other, pedestrian comments? Unworthy of a response.
You mean that you can't respond without looking like a fool.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Serene Repose
1625
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:10:49 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Don't like it? Leave. Suggestion: Get a dog. Order it around. He'll love you for it. woof woof As far as your other, pedestrian comments? Unworthy of a response. You mean that you can't respond without looking like a fool. Curse those inconvenient facts.
Meaning your facts aren't facts and it's not worth the calories it would take to pound the keys to respond -
much as it may seem otherwise to you. But, the passive aggressive response is - quaint. + .02 for that.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Paranoid Loyd
2640
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:17:15 -
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Jonah & Jenn,
Although it is hard to tell based on the normal non-sensical posts from Serene, the few that have had any sort of logic to them lead me to believe that you are being trolled.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
182
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:24:42 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:it would be the best troll in a decade.
inb4 James315 is Greyscale
now you are said it, yeas it's possible
Keeping active account just to shitpost
there's so many thing to fix in eve.... and they fix forum ! GJ! but ok i like it !
CCP Fozzie : AFK cloaking, however, is an entirely social form of power
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Awesome MILF
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.11.14 23:07:23 -
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Dude, I really miss CLARITY, the old good LEARNING SKILL.
The removal of learning skills was the first step to theme park online... :( |
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