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Aesiron
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:55:52 -
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Ajunta Pal wrote:If you really have tried it on two seperate wifi networks, the next question, have you tried it on a starbux or mcdonalds wifi network? (so its a different isp) wifi is really bad when it comes to packet loss, if you lose too many packets you will get dropped, YOU losing the packets, not CCP background internet activity, torrents, regular downloads, audio/video streaming, will all increase the chance of dropped packets.
my recommendation, try pluging in the lan cable and seeing if you still get dropped, if you still get dropped you will have ruled out that it is your wifi, if you stop being droped then its your wifi
next step assuming you are still being dropped would be to test it on a seperate isp, maybe go over to a friends house - if its happening on multiple ISPs then it might really be CCPs fault (chances are its the internet not CCP)
This problem used to happen to me back when I played everquest, it even happened when I played a free WoW trial - solution for me, it was my lan card drivers, I had an "off" brand lan-card and once I installed compatible "on" brand drivers I stopped dropping, took a closer look, and the dropped packet policies for the two drivers were different, the off brand ignored dropped packets while the on brand retransmited dropped packets
please don't blame the problem on ccp, if it was ccp we would all be suffering from this problem, and even then it would be more likely to be an internet problem in general or a ddos than for it to be ccp
So why is this suddenly a problem now?
3 years ago I had a worse network which disconnected every time the ****** phone rang, now I have fibre optic, I have a wifi extender about 3 feet away from my computer and I get disconnected now? What's happened in 3 years to make CCP's tolerance for wifi drop sky low? |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:57:29 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Houston, I think we've discovered the problem. I was just in Houston, playing Eve on my business laptop, with cheesy hotel Wifi.. Houston isn't the problem.
In Texas it is referred to as a Biddnis laptop. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:57:34 -
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War Kitten wrote:If CCP tell you their software is sensitive to packet loss, and you admit your network has packet loss, why is it CCP's problem?
Thank you. You had me at common sense.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:01:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Issues, Workarounds & Localization.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
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Ajunta Pal
Sith Wannabies Annonymous
11
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:05:43 -
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thats exactly it, NOTHING happened with CCP
your wifi extender should be closer to your wifi router than your PC, its probably not helping cause if its 3 feet from your pc its only extending your wifi by 3 feet
the problem could be potentially with many things
on your end 1) wifi (something wrong with the drivers, the card itself, or lots of background interference) 2) drivers/settings on your comp 3) local network topography (crappy hardware, crappy settings on the hardware)
on your isp 1) simultaneous active connection limits 2) throttling (which includes the above) 3) crappy hardware (modem in your home, router outside your home, etc) 4) crappy network topography
the internets 1) crappy network topography 2) crappy hardware on the path your isp is taking to get you to ccp 3) ddos attacks
ccp same as all the above, everyone would be suffering from the same problem, not just you, not a handful, not hundreds....EVERYONE |
Aesiron
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:18:46 -
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Ajunta Pal wrote:thats exactly it, NOTHING happened with CCP
your wifi extender should be closer to your wifi router than your PC, its probably not helping cause if its 3 feet from your pc its only extending your wifi by 3 feet
the problem could be potentially with many things
on your end 1) wifi (something wrong with the drivers, the card itself, or lots of background interference) 2) drivers/settings on your comp 3) local network topography (crappy hardware, crappy settings on the hardware)
on your isp 1) simultaneous active connection limits 2) throttling (which includes the above) 3) crappy hardware (modem in your home, router outside your home, etc) 4) crappy network topography
the internets 1) crappy network topography 2) crappy hardware on the path your isp is taking to get you to ccp 3) ddos attacks
ccp same as all the above, everyone would be suffering from the same problem, not just you, not a handful, not hundreds....EVERYONE
does an ethernet cable fix this probl+½m |
Ajunta Pal
Sith Wannabies Annonymous
11
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:22:58 -
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possibly, all I can say is try it, if it does then its something with your wifi, if it doesn't then you've ruled out that its your wifi
there are some drivers and services on windows PCs that effect both wifi and lan - those would be the next things to check
after that I would try turning off all firewall/internet protection services on any routers you may have - they sometimes interfere with connection quality |
Aesiron
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:24:27 -
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Ajunta Pal wrote:possibly, all I can say is try it, if it does then its something with your wifi, if it doesn't then you've ruled out that its your wifi
there are some drivers and services on windows PCs that effect both wifi and lan - those would be the next things to check
after that I would try turning off all firewall/internet protection services on any routers you may have - they sometimes interfere with connection quality
tengo un mac, i dont have antivirus
but could the mac be diffusing packets around the globe like mayhem? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
485
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:33:08 -
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Aesiron wrote:does an ethernet cable fix this probl+½m I would certainly try just to rule out the wifi. Where I live the standard box you get for the internet access has wifi enabled by default. There are only so many channels and the radio spectra of them are already overlapping. If you live in a flat with many neighbors close by that will have a significant impact on your wifi connection. There are apps for mobile phones who can show you the utilization of the channels and if that may be the problem.
Also stop downloading **** while playing EVE.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Ajunta Pal
Sith Wannabies Annonymous
11
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:35:40 -
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its possible, at a basic level all computers work the same mac diffusing packets wouldn't really be accurate, hubs and wifi both send packets "globally" in the case of a hub, everyone on the network gets every packet in the case of wifi, everyone in range gets every packet
ya, not worried about anti-virus, macs iirc do have a built in firewall, just like windows - those settings not being right could cause the problem
did you try the physical cable?
-its difficult to diagnose problems when you aren't sitting there with the other person I'm really only trying to suggest diagnostic steps to find out what the problem really is |
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Aesiron
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:44:12 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Aesiron wrote:does an ethernet cable fix this probl+½m I would certainly try just to rule out the wifi. Where I live the standard box you get for the internet access has wifi enabled by default. There are only so many channels and the radio spectra of them are already overlapping. If you live in a flat with many neighbors close by that will have a significant impact on your wifi connection. There are apps for mobile phones who can show you the utilization of the channels and if that may be the problem. Also stop downloading **** while playing EVE.
im not downloading anything while playing EVE.
and my bad it's not 'packet loss' its 'socket loss/bad socket' |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic Did he say Jump
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:48:39 -
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Aesiron wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:It clearly is not as I rarely if ever have any connection issues. does it maybe frighten you to know that connections vary from place to place? EVE's connection isn't the same everywhere, and why should I have to mess with my ISP/router when it's clearly CCP's 'fragile network'.
I highly doubt CCP has ANYTHING to do with the ISP in your are of the world....unless you live in the UK where I hear the server is actually maintained. There is only one server for all of EVE (Sisi is a test server and Serenity is only for China) so unless something is happening to EVERYONE it's just you bro.
Sometimes a lot of people get dced at once. Those tend to be DDOS attacks that CCP can't do much about. Sometimes a regional ISP fucks up, especially on the hop over the Atlantic, still not CCP's problem. Do a traceroute to the server, find the derp in the middle ******* it up.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:28:37 -
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Aesiron wrote:
and my bad it's not 'packet loss' its 'socket loss/bad socket'
Have you seen this?
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
485
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Posted - 2014.11.18 00:39:31 -
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Aesiron wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Aesiron wrote:does an ethernet cable fix this probl+½m I would certainly try just to rule out the wifi. Where I live the standard box you get for the internet access has wifi enabled by default. There are only so many channels and the radio spectra of them are already overlapping. If you live in a flat with many neighbors close by that will have a significant impact on your wifi connection. There are apps for mobile phones who can show you the utilization of the channels and if that may be the problem. Also stop downloading **** while playing EVE. im not downloading anything while playing EVE. and my bad it's not 'packet loss' its 'socket loss/bad socket' Have you tried the cable yet?
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Jurico Elemenohpe
Laughing Coffin's Surely You're Joking
12
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Posted - 2014.11.18 03:37:16 -
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I haven't had Socket closed since before the DDOS attacks (what if the ddos attacks were a cover up for ccp to secretly replace the hamsters?). As the thread somewhere in this says, it's something to do with one of the middle ISPs. |
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