Yes.

That's soooo detailed.

I love detailed responses.

pretty much anything and everything the EvE developers made themselves and didnt buy is their intellectual property, like the carbon system is NOT theres casue it was pre-existing, but pretty much everything they amde WITH it IS their property.

but that generally only applies to things visually, since 90% of all FPS's are cookie cutter UI's adn whatnot, as long as yours is similar with its own coding adn not ripped directly from an EvE code, i do believe it would eb YOUR OWN intellectual property.

im pretty sure thats how it works, and if their is anything specific you are not quite sure about, im sure youc an always message the devs and say "hey, im making a game, and was wondering if you cared if i borrowed this feature, cause you guys were awesome with comingt up with it (making them feel smart and special ALWAYS helps whena sking things)"

pretty much anything and everything the EvE developers made themselves and didnt buy is their intellectual property, like the carbon system is NOT theres casue it was pre-existing, but pretty much everything they amde WITH it IS their property.

I was wondering where it drew the line, because I'd love to use the overview system(mainly), and the skill idea(takes time to train). These things are major in eve online and I did not want to strip them of their intellectual property using them.

For more detail than that you really need legal help, IP is a literal minefield.

wrong. carbon is ccps creation, it was made using exsisting eve code. so carbon is ccp's ip.

http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/technology

So basically if it gets coded by ourselves, its ours?

Besides the obvious things(ships, names, etc), what else is considered CCPs intellectual property?

ui?
overview?
etc?

thanks!

edit: For those of you wondering, I'm developing a game, an MMO, however playing eve for 6 years has greatly influenced my ideas on features and UI development.

All of my fanships are technically thiers.

2. If you're asking here and not asking your Lawyer, you don't have nearly enough venture capital to start designing an MMO

OP, as Ruby suggests, do yourself a favour and talk to a professional about this. If you honestly believe the EVE-O forums with the collection of trolls, Anti-Semetic toolbags, womanisers and whatnot else that lives around here can give you correct information on copyright law ... well. You might be better off flipping burgers than actually engaging in a professional endeavour.

Especially as they can't even capitalise sentences properly and have difficulties understanding the difference between their and there.

I do admire your courage in attempting this though.

Note: Obligatory mistakes included for daring to mock the intellectually impaired.

Besides the obvious things(ships, names, etc), what else is considered CCPs intellectual property?

A friend tried to name his kid Tristan. CCP sued him. True story.

Besides the obvious things(ships, names, etc), what else is considered CCPs intellectual property?

ui?
overview?
etc?

thanks!

edit: For those of you wondering, I'm developing a game, an MMO, however playing eve for 6 years has greatly influenced my ideas on features and UI development.

well are they not your concepts?

oh man you're developing an MMO that's awesome hit me up when it goes under and you're in debt

Haha i was hoping to get a GM/CCP post actually.

Well, they let Perpetuum copy over most of EVE's mechanics and feel so that's a hint right there. Probably because it's not about spaceships and they copied over EVE's really bad stuff meaning CCP was probably laughing knowing how much trouble the Perpetuum guys got themselves into. Don't use any graphics, models or names and you should be fine.

Having said that, if you're a game developer you should probably realise a few things:

- most of the things in EVE are crappily done (especially back then), it's just saved by the awesomeness of the sandbox

- the player pool for open sandbox, pvp oriented type players is quite limited. For every person that loves EVE's playstyle there's 20 who love WOW more (which is a good thing). Result is that if you're going to try and compete for those sandbox players by making a similar type MMO you're probably going to lose out as those folks are already playing EVE. Just like trying to make a wow clone doesn't work because people who like that... play WOW.

- if you've learned anything from past releases, the best way to fail is to do something mediocre that's already been done. So being different gives a better chance of being successful.

Then maybe you should contact them directly - perhaps through the CCP Games official website?