10+ days waiting for skills is all i really have to say.

I have watched quite a few people make a start in this game. By far the ones who enjoyed it the most and continue to play it to this day are the ones who never spoke to an agent.

-mining looks to be the worst game mechanic of any game every created and I can only assume it's done entirely by UO-style macros

-"highsec" is apparently dangerous as anywhere else (I watched someone explode in my newbie system after taking some "free ammo," from a jettisoned space canister)

-Corporation recruitment channel is full of people who want me to pay them isk for the right to apply to their corp (I don't know if this is a common practice, but it seems like some kind of con to me)

-the default corporation I start in taxes my money and gives me nothing to show for it

seriously?

I don't really see the "relaxing," quality of repeatedly filling my ship with rock bits and slogging it down to the station for processing (for what I understand is a pittance of a return), but i'll have to take you guys at your word on that. .

I want a Panda cannon for christmas...shoot pandas at people...would be funny as hell!

There are a range of ships that play roughly like the Protection Warrior from WoW: ECM boats. These boats work by shutting down the enemy and generating huge amounts of threat: their threat mechanic is so powerful it even causes players to rage on the forums about about the imbalanced nature of ECM.

Of course, combine that with a covert ops cloaking device and you have a Falcon, which is the EVE equivalent of a Rogue, complete with the ability to "stun lock" an opponent (permajam + warp disruptor).

In EvE, there obviously is not "threat meter" that indicates what ship will get thwomped on next.

I don't know what a Threat Meter is but there is a good way to know if you are about to get Thwomped.

If all the Red Boxes with Skulls/Stars on the Overview start to Flash Yellow...

You just go ahead and keep the cursor over the Broadcast for Reps button.

This.

Yes, mining is mostly done by bots, and is not profitable enough for any sane person to waste time on.

All good stuffs

I heard somewhere that WoW PvP is much like bumper cars...

Eve is more along the lines of a demolition derby. And when you try climbing away from the burning wreckage that was your vehicle, we attempt to hit you once more.

This

If you believe that then your a moro....... (looks at corp ticker)....... ah a nullbear.

It's because of Drone ratting bots run by nullbears like yourself whom mine minerals with a gun that makes the mineral market WTFOMGLOLBBQ. Get rid of that and the miners will actually do a lot better, but to highlight your failacy MANY sane people do mine, they DON'T do it AFK and they do make a profit from it.

Hoo boyGǪ

First of all, forget everything you know about MMOs, and most of the things you know about RPGs. It's far quicker that way that trying to match how things work here with how you are used to them working (because that will most likely just trip you up and make you come to completely the wrong conclusions). EVE does not have levels; it does not have any XP; it does not have any classes; it does not have any ability trees; hell, technically speaking, it doesn't even have any PvE. If you spot something you think looks like any of those things, then trust me: it won't work that way.

That last part is particularly important, and it is a common stumbling block for new players, so it's better you learn it ASAP GÇö while there are situations where you'll find yourself shooting at NPCs (colloquially called GÇ£ratsGÇ¥), you are doing so in competition with other players, and those other players will have a myriad of ways of stopping you and generally screw you overGǪ some of which you definitely will not like.

The reason people have the knee-jerk reaction of calling you a WoW troll is because it's so common to see people come here from a WoW:ish background and assume that things will be the same as back in their old game, and then they get all huffy when it turns out that no, EVE does not work that way. At all. In particular when they falsely assume that they are safe in space and that they are entitled to GÇ£just doing their thingGÇ¥, things will get really funny. So learn that lesson now: EVE does not support that gameplay. It doesn't exist. If you do not like PvP in its many incarnations (only some of which come in the form of combat), then EVE will have very little to offer you. If you expect to be able to play this game, and think the same way you do in WoW, you are up for never-ending disappointment. Nor should you expect much support for any sentiment that things should work like they do in WoW, because, again, it's a completely different game built on vastly different foundations, and 99 percent [random number] of the WoW:ish GÇ£improvementsGÇ¥ people bring to these boards are fundamentally incompatible with how EVE works (one of the reasons the patience for the aforementioned WoW trolls is particularly worn thin is because they tend to get horribly upset when anyone tries to explain this fact to them).

So what is there to do then? Well, a hell of a lot, and for most of it, you can pick and choose your way of doing it. There are some basic philosophies along the lines of what works well and what does not (and what is downright stupid), but other than that, there is no GÇ£bestGÇ¥ way of doing things. Neither is there any particular route or progression you need to follow GÇö and this is the important bit: the game will not give you any direction. It is all up to you.

There is no end-game beyond what you set up for yourself. Conversely, there is precious little Gǣnew-gameGǥ except what you want to limit yourself to in order to not to get overwhelmed and/or not risk too much, but it's all your choice. If you want to run lower-end missions and highsec explorations as a group, you can do that. If you want to run them on your own, you can do that. If you want to gang up and try some intermediary missions or low-sec exploration, you can do that. If you want to go off and blow up a titan (the most expensive normal ship in the game), you can do thatGǪ although you'll probably need some help with that one. There are no limits to what you can do except the ones you set up for yourself, but as mentioned that freedom also comes at the cost of you having to create your own gameplay, because the game will not provide any.


So, while your question has largely been answered, let's dissect it:

GǣWhat's the best shipGǥGǪ None. There is no best ship. Any ship you find will have strengths and weaknesses that makes it better than some and worse than others. There are some ships that are the top of the heap for one particular purpose or one specific situation, but as soon as you take them outside of that comfort zone, they're horrid.

GÇ¥Most like a warrior?GÇ¥GǪ None. EVE doesn't have classes. What it does have is loosely defined roles. There might be some mapping between the two because of how broad or general those roles are (GÇ£reppingGÇ¥ Gåö healing, for instance), but the complexity of the system and the subjectivity and contextuality of those uses mean that any such mapping will be very imprecise and prove to be false half the time.

So the question you need to ask is GÇ£I want to do X in situations Y and Z, what are my options?GÇ¥, and then expect roughly 85 bajillion different answers GÇö all of them legitimate.

Interesting opinion (one that seems to run counter to most of the advice i've read). Thanks.

I have done some missions already and they seem fairly low on the totem pole of content in the game (although i've got no point of comparison to anything but what i have read). All I know thus far is:

-mining looks to be the worst game mechanic of any game every created and I can only assume it's done entirely by UO-style macros
-exploration missions (at least the tutorials) require skills I don't have yet and scanning should be fun to figure out
-"highsec" is apparently dangerous as anywhere else (I watched someone explode in my newbie system after taking some "free ammo," from a jettisoned space canister)
-Corporation recruitment channel is full of people who want me to pay them isk for the right to apply to their corp (I don't know if this is a common practice, but it seems like some kind of con to me)
-the default corporation I start in taxes my money and gives me nothing to show for it

BTW Evemon and battleclinic are totally amazing, i've learned more in the last hour than I did in my whole trial week.