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taylor04
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: taylor04 on 31/08/2006 16:32:06 user taylor04 is banned Last Login: 2006.08.31 15:28 Number of Visits: 4032
why thank you
who do i talk to about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Celedris
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:33:00 -
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Ouch, GL getting your stuff back together guys. One more reason not to open strange extensions sent to you...
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Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: taylor04 Edited by: taylor04 on 31/08/2006 16:32:06 user taylor04 is banned Last Login: 2006.08.31 15:28 Number of Visits: 4032
why thank you
who do i talk to about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's probably a good thing, it means that they are locking the account for investigation.
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taylor04
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Celedris Ouch, GL getting your stuff back together guys. One more reason not to open strange extensions sent to you...
it looked letgit, it was only picks from what i recall, and i used avg on it first but it wasnt picked up
also another scan running now , has not yet picked anyhting up
ALSO WHY THE HELL DID U BAN MY ACCOUNT CCP how are you ment to contact me and ask me questions now ffs!!!!!!!!
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FalconHawk
Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:36:00 -
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GMs usualy bann teh characters involved, simply to keep the record clean and trace the stuff, so donŠt worry to much and contact teh gms
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calda2
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:37:00 -
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unfortuneatly you will have to do like my friend and open a petition which they say takes 2 weeks to even look at.I also made a post on this forum for my buddy who account been banned.No emails or anything stating why he was banned.GL with your petition.
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:39:00 -
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If you want to be extra sure about cleaning your system you can also try the online virus scanner from BitDefender. Found that picked up several viruses that AVG missed when I last had a problem.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:39:00 -
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Yeah, I see the Ban as just a way of making sure that the affected accounts can do no more harm, while CCP traces the issue. I'm sure that a GM will be in contact with you.
Tough break... good luck getting it sorted. Diplomat and Recruitment Officer |
Jollyreaper
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:40:00 -
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Sympathies all around. What a crummy situation! Here's hoping CCP can put things back to rights and maybe kick in an extra billion isk for your hassle.
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: ching'sta Thanks for the warning.
btw. you can make most trojans look like any type of file .rar .zip .mp3 or whatever it still works like an .exe
A trojan horse(not a trojan, trojans were the guys who actually had their city compromised) is by definition something that doesn't look like what it is. Windows uses fileendings to determine if a file is executable or not. You just need to configure the explorer to show them.
@taylor04: I recommend you do exactly what ombey is doing: Bite the bullet and reinstall your OS. Just to stick to the picture of the ancient trojan horse: removing it from troja after the greek allready sneaked out and could be hiding everywhere... could be doing whatever they want..... wouldn't have helped the trojans much, would it?
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Mongo Smith
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: taylor04
Originally by: Celedris Ouch, GL getting your stuff back together guys. One more reason not to open strange extensions sent to you...
it looked letgit, it was only picks from what i recall, and i used avg on it first but it wasnt picked up
also another scan running now , has not yet picked anyhting up
ALSO WHY THE HELL DID U BAN MY ACCOUNT CCP how are you ment to contact me and ask me questions now ffs!!!!!!!!
Have you even read any of my posts? The link to Symantec would be a good place to start.
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taylor04
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ebedar If you want to be extra sure about cleaning your system you can also try the online virus scanner from BitDefender. Found that picked up several viruses that AVG missed when I last had a problem.
thanks, soon as avg is finished ill try that one
ALSO CCP, YOU NEEEDD To CONTACT ALL THAT WAS INVOLVED and let them know that its possible all their accounts might be comprimised like their bank accounts and many other things so they take action on it
it is very impotant you do that!! http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5241/cheerbear7lv.jpg |
Valan
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:41:00 -
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From past discussions on hacking, suspicious accounts are temporarily banned until CCP track the theft.
The source characters are usually reimbursed fairly quickly. I suppose the ones at the bottom of the chain are perma banned.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:42:00 -
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...then put a giant latex sack (ribbed, or whatever) over your NIC card... have a trojan protect you from trojans....! Diplomat and Recruitment Officer |
taylor04
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: ching'sta Thanks for the warning.
btw. you can make most trojans look like any type of file .rar .zip .mp3 or whatever it still works like an .exe
A trojan horse(not a trojan, trojans were the guys who actually had their city compromised) is by definition something that doesn't look like what it is. Windows uses fileendings to determine if a file is executable or not. You just need to configure the explorer to show them.
@taylor04: I recommend you do exactly what ombey is doing: Bite the bullet and reinstall your OS. Just to stick to the picture of the ancient trojan horse: removing it from troja after the greek allready sneaked out and could be hiding everywhere... could be doing whatever they want..... wouldn't have helped the trojans much, would it?
not as easy as said, i have family phtos and stuff id need to burn [also what are the chances of buring the trojan horse with them!]
on top of that, it takes a whole ******* day up, and on top of that its probably wise to wait for ccp to confirm whats gona happen http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5241/cheerbear7lv.jpg |
Wulfstan
Caldari The Sweeney
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:45:00 -
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**** Ombey, that's not good mate.
Even worse that it was done to such a major contributor to the Eve community, what with your maps and all.
I can sympathise with you, a brief brain fart and you briefly think "yeah SCR file, screenshot" is something that could happen to most.
Shame your firewall never picked up on the trojan opening an outgoing connection to drop the data off to the scumbag.
Not sure what country you're based in, but in the UK that guy has broken the Computer Misuse Act 1990 and that is a criminal offence, not merely some namby pamby Eve EULA violation.
The ISK transfer trail MUST end somewhere. CCP need to put resources into this to sort out the innocent from the guilty here.
Did you keep the email? It will have headers that will be useful to CCP, especially if the perpetrator sent the email from the same PC he uses to play Eve it would give away useful IP address information.
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Bombasy
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dinique NOD32 > All other anti-virus.
McAfee, while being a lot better than Norton, is still pretty, well, crap.
www.nod32.com -- give it a go.
Truth. Nod32 rocks my socks. If you don't wanna pay then avast is awesome.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:46:00 -
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If they have banned your IP as well as the account, they may also have logs of which IP logged into your account/accounts over the past few days... they'll see who's IP that is, and look into banning that person's account as well... then hopefully, un-ban yours
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: taylor04 ALSO WHY THE HELL DID U BAN MY ACCOUNT CCP how are you ment to contact me and ask me questions now ffs!!!!!!!!
My educated guess would be that they just read this thread and "somehow" recieved the impression that you do NOT have the situation under control at all.
Did you even read this thread?!? Still believe it was just pictures?!?
In your situation i would remove the compromised computers internet connection ASAP. Then use another PC(mate's if you only own one) to change the passwords of ALL your accounts. Change passwords of ebay, amazon, icq, email....... Phone your bank and ask them to disable your online banking and send you a new PIN. If you have used your CC since you installed the keylogger contact your CC issuer.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: taylor04 not as easy as said, i have family phtos and stuff id need to burn [also what are the chances of buring the trojan horse with them!]
on top of that, it takes a whole ******* day up, and on top of that its probably wise to wait for ccp to confirm whats gona happen
With pictures not very high i would say. SCR files are NOT pictures tho.
You want to go on using the compromised PC til CCP answers a petition?!? Well good luck, you will need it!
Consider the day you will have to spend as learning the hard way. It was you who screwed up and installed the keylogger. Not some leet hacker you couldn't do **** against. Just you who was fooled into installing malware.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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taylor04
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:54:00 -
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FFS, a pal has just called me to inform me his account has been baned too
his main is xlop, so ccp take note, and i hope ur reading this thred !!!!!
ok more info for you ccp, and ffs i hope u are readin this thred
Xlop account, and also vyperpit account [char names not usernames] are owned by a real life friend of mine, then there is this char taylor04, and cyno girl owned be meh, all have currently baned [i assume by ip address]
now you can confirm all this if u join channel ph-public, we where all in the same corp [pilots of honour] together
also taylor04 and xlop are in the same corp, and the founder is vyperpit if any more confirmation is required! http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5241/cheerbear7lv.jpg |
nahtoh
Caldari Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:57:00 -
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F-Prot ATV and hijack this are my suggestions for clean up... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Cyno Girl
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: taylor04 not as easy as said, i have family phtos and stuff id need to burn [also what are the chances of buring the trojan horse with them!]
on top of that, it takes a whole ******* day up, and on top of that its probably wise to wait for ccp to confirm whats gona happen
With pictures not very high i would say. SCR files are NOT pictures tho.
You want to go on using the compromised PC til CCP answers a petition?!? Well good luck, you will need it!
Consider the day you will have to spend as learning the hard way. It was you who screwed up and installed the keylogger. Not some leet hacker you couldn't do **** against. Just you who was fooled into installing malware.
im taylor04, seems they stoped me posting too
yeh its my fault i opend the file, im not saying other wise, someone smarter than me fooled me, shouldnt of happened but it did
also i have stoped all my bank accounts and seems all my eve accounts have been baned, so its not a big deal if i reformatt now or a bit later [hell gidding up an xp disk will take an hour or so]
and ccp, wtf are you doing, how am i too comunicate with you if u banning meh accounts!
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alpha seno
UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:01:00 -
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use the pettion service thats what its for, how this thread hasnt been locked now i dont know tbh
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nahtoh
Caldari Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: taylor04
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: ching'sta Thanks for the warning.
btw. you can make most trojans look like any type of file .rar .zip .mp3 or whatever it still works like an .exe
A trojan horse(not a trojan, trojans were the guys who actually had their city compromised) is by definition something that doesn't look like what it is. Windows uses fileendings to determine if a file is executable or not. You just need to configure the explorer to show them.
@taylor04: I recommend you do exactly what ombey is doing: Bite the bullet and reinstall your OS. Just to stick to the picture of the ancient trojan horse: removing it from troja after the greek allready sneaked out and could be hiding everywhere... could be doing whatever they want..... wouldn't have helped the trojans much, would it?
not as easy as said, i have family phtos and stuff id need to burn [also what are the chances of buring the trojan horse with them!]
on top of that, it takes a whole ******* day up, and on top of that its probably wise to wait for ccp to confirm whats gona happen
Pretty remote TBH...If you know what your doing that is...
This is not a CCP issue. You installed a bit of malware on your system...many posters on this thread have listed a number of pretty good apps to clean this up for you before you have to take the nuke and pave approch to your machine.
Now I don't know how techie you are...But you could for instance run a hijack this scan and then post in on perhaps the known issues board.
I would bewilling to look over it for you and see what I could dig up for you and I reckon others would be just as helpful... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Chrome Tsunami
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:10:00 -
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I use NOD32 too, it's much better than any other AV software and it hardly uses any memory. Norton is by far the worst I have tried (2006).
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Razor Jaxx
Blind Vengeance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Za Po
Originally by: Razor Jaxx As far as I know, there is no way a non-executable file can spawn a trojan install (I consider scripts as a form of executable).
This is not entirely correct. The program you use to view any type of file can be bugged. An attacker that knows about the bug may be able to exploit the bug and cause it to execute code that is embedded in the image/mp3/whatever. It is hard, but far from impossible; it has been done many times. The most recent example is the WMF vulnerability, but there are many more. This is why keeping your system fully patched at all times is a very good idea.
You are perfectly right, that is very true, although quite uncommon. Hackers (of the ebil sort) are most of the time lazy people with no knowledge or interest in the tools they're using, whereas the methods you mention require a minimal technical know-how.
As for the reliability of virus scanners, a simple repackager (modifying machine code strands of the virus/trojans, which are the 'genes' by which these programs are identified) can sometimes make a trojan or virus undetectable. The best protection against trojans and viruses in general is your brain. Think before running an executable, and don't accept anything from strangers (as your mommy told you not to) or even from friends, who could pass on viruses unknowingly.
Also, use a good firewall that will warn you of programs attempting to communicate to the outside without your knowledge or consent. Good firewalls will also warn you when a program is attempting to start another program, or when a program's integrity has been modified since you last ran it. This is, imo, a priority over a virus scanner.
- [ BL1ND killboard ]
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ElCoCo
Gallente KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: ElCoCo on 31/08/2006 17:48:49
Originally by: Tain Korore Note: For better point impact, do all of the required reading, and call Troy, Troy
He can call it whatever he wants, the spelling "Troy" is arbitrary since it's not an english word
To the OP and the rest of the afflicted, it sucks... I hope you get this resolved soon.
edit: my spelling ftl
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tain Korore Your example is great, but my incessant need to be correct in details forces me to post. Question the first: Where in the Hell is Troja?
Note: For better point impact, do all of the required reading, and call Troy, Troy
hehe, you are in the know that names happen to differ as well in different languages though?
I just fail to hide my german nationality sometimes.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.08.31 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ombey
Originally by: Grey Area Get yourself a decent virus scanner...if it can't pick up an .exe file as obvious as that, whatever you are using now is pointless.
Try AVG free...it's (as the name suggests) free, and it captures pretty much everything. The company that makes it is called GriSoft...if I can find a link I'll post it.
I have a decent virus scanner- McAfee VirusScan v8.0, fully up to date, and a firewall.
mcafee sucks arse, and software firewalls are CRAP.
Get AVG, Avast, and a REAL FIREWALL..(Linksys, Cisco, any hardware firewall)
You should NEVER accept any zip, rar, or other compressed/executable/unknown files from people you DO NOT KNOW. (notice that PERIOD "." there, it means there is nothing more to say.) (you dont take out your wallet for every stranger that approaches you on the street do you?)
Now to deal with this, petition CCP, with all the info, and logs related to this. don't hold your breath, it will take some time.
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