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Space Fear
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.01 09:08:00 -
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I have a Pentium 4 2,6, ATI 9550 with 256Mb, 1250Mb of RAM.
I cant play EVE because the game makes my computer to crash. I think its because of the overheating it produces. I have the case open, and i already bought a new dissipator and a fan. Im experiencing the same problem.
When i do a mission with lots of ships like Worlds Collide its a sure crash!
When i say crash i mean that my comp. reboots instantly. I lost 2 ships yesterday because this issue.
It doesnt happened to me before the patch, i played the trial perfectly, i payed because i think this is a great game and then this...I simply cant play this way.
Im the worst nightmare for a pirate...I never have nothing in my cargo. |
Space Fear
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.01 09:16:00 -
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Only to say that 2 days before i had an NVIDIA Geforce 5200 and the game crashed same way, then its not a graphic card problem. There is a way to decrease CPU usage with this game?
Im the worst nightmare for a pirate...I never have nothing in my cargo. |
Space Fear
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.01 09:39:00 -
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I already sent the Dxdiag file and log files to support.
Im the worst nightmare for a pirate...I never have nothing in my cargo. |
Space Fear
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.01 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Space Fear on 01/09/2006 10:37:44
In order to show u the problem, look the graph:
I dont wanna know what temp i have to reach to reboot my comp...
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Morgassana
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Posted - 2006.09.01 11:16:00 -
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try shutting off ingame sound...
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Mdram
Caldari
Eastern Heritage
O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.09.01 12:34:00 -
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p4's run hot, try a new case fan, maybe make sure your ports arent clogged with dust. you can check the reboot temp in your bios
im running an amd64, highest temp ive reached is 36 C
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.01 12:57:00 -
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The tech specs for P4's vary a lot, so check Intel's technical specs for your specific CPU make to see what the recommended max operating temperature is.
That said, P4's can run very hot, from 64C-78C, depending on the model, and it looks like you're peaking around 60C.
THAT said, I wouldn't run my P4 as hot as I'm allowed to :) If I had a CPU running at 140F, I would be pulling the cooler off and getting better thermal regulation in there :P
Some common problems are crummy heatsinks, crummy fans, crummy physical connections between the heatsink and the CPU die (such as those evil sticky-pad thermal transfer things that some factory heat sinks ship with, or too little/too much thermal transfer compound, or maybe even an uneven cooler or die surface), and high ambient temperature in the case.
Anyway, I'd pick a good heatsink and a good fan and replace the factory stuff. Be sure you get some decent thermal compound with it and install it correctly. It's very easy, but get someone to help if you've never done it before, as improper installation can lead to fried (or crushed) components.
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Ramanujan
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Posted - 2006.09.01 18:46:00 -
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I have the same problem on one computer, but I'm pretty sure its not the cpu. How do I know this? I underclocked the cpu (mine used to peak at 70 degrees with eve) to about 40 degrees and I still crashed on battles with lots of ships and explosions. I tried disabling the effects, but that doesn't disable explosions.
Try underclocking the cpu from your bios (lower the voltage, I lowered mine from 1.5 to 1.375 and maybe the multiplier too) if possible.
I'm wondering whether its something else, like a powersupply issue, although i havent been able to replace mine and test it.
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Remus Omalley
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Posted - 2006.09.01 19:49:00 -
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It does sound like a PSU problem.What make is the PSU? What other games do you play? and have you recently added any new hardware?
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Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.09.01 20:36:00 -
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a common problem i used to have was the heatsinks filled with dust and restricted the air flow. i would check all the heatsinks and air intakes to see if they are blocked with dust. can't really advise much else tbh
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Ocaud
Evisceration.
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Posted - 2006.09.01 21:30:00 -
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Almost 2 months ago there was some server side change that caused many newer versions of ATI cards to overheat. Many people in my corp started having new heat issues after several months of playing fine with the same rig. Myself, and a few other unfortunate corpmates, lost a video card to this. I hope CCP fixes this or they will lose customers by the day.
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2006.09.01 21:50:00 -
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62C is pretty freakin hot for a CPU to be running, and my guess is that there are issues you haven't found yet.
Which heatsink did you get, and how big is the fan? And what kind of thermal paste did you use between the heatsink and the fan? (you DID use thermal paste, right?)
I have seen a number of issues with PC's lately having to do with the past few generations of hot processors and the vertical orientation of the motherboard. If they chip overheats a bit, sometimes the thermal conductor between the chip and heatsink will liquify and literally ooze away down the motheboard.
And just to confirm, that high temperature on the graph is the CPU temp, but is the green one the ambient case temp?
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Celestinara
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Posted - 2006.09.02 00:21:00 -
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To be honnest, I don't consider 60C to be a "dangerous" core temp. It's a bit concerning, but nothing too bad. My main questions are:
Are you using a stock Intel heat-sink?
Is that the "On-die" temperature or the temperature between the heat-sink and the chip? In many cases a temperature sensor between the sink and the chip will cause some erroneous readings. Also, can someone who works a lot with P4s confirm whether they have metal coverings like the Athlon 64s? Because if they do, I'd suggest taking off the sink and putting on some Arctic Silver heat-compound.
If it doesn't have that plate, for god's sake don't put arctic silver anywhere near the chip. If there isn't a barrier plate you will short-circuit the processor. Oh ya, one other thing, does your sink have thermal compound (a gooey mushy substance) or thermal taping (Somewhat self explanitory?) because thermal tape sucks, badly, and I know that some computer makers use it because it's a lot cleaner and easier to use than putting on thermal compounding, which as any tech can tell you, can be a messy enterprise.
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Milera
Gallente
Antimatter Assembly Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.02 00:22:00 -
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That was me... darn forums.
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Nabraxis Ka
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Posted - 2006.09.02 00:25:00 -
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firstly dont have the side off ur case, this is a common misconception to cool the pc down, having the side on lets the air inside ya case circulate how it shud (provided ur fans are positioned correctly) i have a thermal take case with just 3 well positioned fans and my cpu doesnt go above 50 in mid summer :).
so, cold air intake fan at bottom of ya case, pulling cool air in, and a exhaust fan sumwhere near the top of ur case as the exhaust. Also as stated, cleaning the dust off ya heatsinks may b gud idea if they r really stuffed up:P all about thermo dynamics :)
thanks.
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Nabraxis Ka
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Posted - 2006.09.02 00:27:00 -
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also avoid having ur pc in a enclosed area, like sum cleverly designed desks from ikea lol. try get atleast a 4" gap around ya case.
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RipperXXX
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.02 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: RipperXXX on 02/09/2006 21:26:37
MMm....i have a bigger fan and a bigger heatsink....
Them are completely new, so there is no dust.
Im investigating if the reboot problem is because a sound driver problem or something similar...
I noticed that while playing Elder Scrolls:Oblivion my CPU reaches 61ŚC and then stabilizes.
Im really thinking about a sound problem now.
Ill tell u if i reach a solution, thanks to all guys.
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Stelteck
Minmatar
FRENCH NAVY
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.02 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Stelteck on 02/09/2006 21:48:06
To test the overheating, try testing your computer with benchmark like 3D MARK.
The test shall crash your computer as well.
In order to try to stabilize your computer and confirm your diagnostic, you may try to downcloak your CPU and your graphic card.
you may lower the CPU frequency of your processor using the BIOS feature, and some utilitaries such as powerstrip allow you to change the frequency of your graphic card.
Stelteck.
Tau ceti FEDERATION
F-NAVY
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RipperXXX
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.02 21:48:00 -
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Thank u, ill try it.
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I'm the worst nightmare for pirates...I never have nothing to loot!!! |
Jake Stevens
Lone Wolves
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Posted - 2006.09.02 22:43:00 -
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This used to happen to me all the time. The laser sounds restart your pc. Go get a better soundcard or turn off sounds, trust me. I wager you are using onboard sound.
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RipperXXX
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.02 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: RipperXXX on 02/09/2006 23:04:44
Yeah im using onboard sound, that would be sad man...
I cant believe a sound problem can reboot ur computer.
+isnt there a solution if this is a sound problem?
I saw lots of posts with sound problems...
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I'm the worst nightmare for pirates...I never have nothing to loot!!! |
Jake Stevens
Lone Wolves
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Stevens on 03/09/2006 11:22:16
Yeah I didnt think it could be the sound either. Turn off the sound for one mission and i'm 99% sure it wont crash. And if it does... then it could be an overheating problem.
Good luck and lucky for me i had a spare sound card lying around :)
*edit* Sharky if you are still reading this thread can you please make a sticky about it because ALOT of people are having this problem by the looks of it.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:13:00 -
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I used to have a similar issue with another game, if a lot happened at the same time the computer would freeze. It turned out to be the powersupply.
Cheap powersupplies do not have truly seperate voltage lines. Meaning that if your CPU peaks suddenly, there is a short, abrubt drop in the lines to the mobo and memory, and vice versa. Computers really do not like that, data in the memory or cache will get corrupted and a crash/freeze/reboot results.
Now I got a good Nexus powersupply which DOES have seperate voltage lines. It cost me over a hundred bucks but it's worth every penny. I've never had a bluescreen or crash or anything like that ever since I plugged the thing in, and I'm considering to buy another one for my second PC.
Eve also gave me some overheating problems, I have an AMD 3200, and those are notorious for their heat. Operating temperatures of 70-75C were quite normal with my setup, and obviously that's not very healthy for it. I often got some slight graphic glitches, like textures flickering and disappearing or spreading allover the screen, or menus getting stuck and acting weird. Underclocking the PC from 200 to 133MHz FSB fixed this problem, while not affecting performance much besides loading stations taking longer. I got a new CPU fan and some extra casefans yesterday and now the CPU stays around 65C when clocked back to 200MHz and the problems haven't returned.
So: Try underclocking, and take a look at your powersupply.
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RipperXXX
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.05 12:16:00 -
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ok, definitely is a sound problem. I disabled the sound and the game goes perfectly. I have the last available driver for my sound card so...
Yesterday a guy in the spanish channel suffered the same issue, it seems a very common problem. Please CCP give us a solution, i like to play with sound!
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I'm the worst nightmare for pirates...I never have nothing to loot!!! |
Gehmis
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:08:00 -
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I had this problem a while back. I replaced fans with Zalman's, considered going water cooling, etc etc. Then, I replaced the power supply (CoolMax, NEVER BUY!) with an Antec of higher wattage and all of my problems disappeared. No more sudden shutdowns.
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Shiftless
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:44:00 -
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To whomever said that you will short out a CPU with Arctic silver if you're not a CPU with a heat-spreader (that "little metal plate")...
Ummm. No. Not true. Not at all true. There is nothing conductive about the outer surface of a CPU. At all. Ever. Might want to check out the Artic Silver website for installation instructions.
On a side note, I removed the heat-spreader from my Athlon64 3000+ and replaced the thermal paste underneath it with Arctic silver before replacing it and... Still no shorting. Does run 1.5C cooler though.
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Cykles
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:51:00 -
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I have almost that exact same system, and have almost the exact same problem.
P4 2.8
ati radeon 9550
1.75 gig of RAM
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RipperXXX
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.07 06:32:00 -
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Ok, CCP gived a solution to me:
Try to remove the hardware acceleration when running DXDiag in the sound section. Then try to increase it a bit while testing until it crashes.
KK, thanks for all guys.
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I'm the worst nightmare for pirates...I never have nothing to loot!!! |
Sharupak
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:58:00 -
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Space fear...
Your heating is fine. If you are starting at around 40C and when you play eve you get to 60C that is pretty good. Your computer wont shut off with a heating issue until 90C.
I would venture to say its something else.
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:38:00 -
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Try this
Tacky lens flares in sigs 4tw! |
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