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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:55:35 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I do not expect the circumstances involved to repeat, but a family member having serious health issues can happen to anyone. Indeed they can and I'm not disputing that, but surely you can understand why someone would take it as a bad sign when we're not even past the campaigning stage, right? I can't. In fact, I am wondering if you sprained your arm reaching so far. Of course you can't, but then from a CODE member who quite publicly has some kind of personal problem with me trying to push for a CODE candidate, I hardly expect you to be objective. Didn't you block me already?
At the end of the day, people can take it how they want. Clearly that guy takes it as a bad sign, and while I may not entirely agree, I can understand why he sees it that way. Personally I think the problem with Sabriz isn't the level of work he'd put in, it's that he'd actively refuse to consider opposing styles of play to his own as even valid, let alone deserving of any positive changes.
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
970
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:15:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I do not expect the circumstances involved to repeat, but a family member having serious health issues can happen to anyone. Indeed they can and I'm not disputing that, but surely you can understand why someone would take it as a bad sign when we're not even past the campaigning stage, right? I can't. In fact, I am wondering if you sprained your arm reaching so far. Of course you can't, but then from a CODE member who quite publicly has some kind of personal problem with me trying to push for a CODE candidate, I hardly expect you to be objective. Didn't you block me already? At the end of the day, people can take it how they want. Clearly that guy takes it as a bad sign, and while I may not entirely agree, I can understand why he sees it that way. Personally I think the problem with Sabriz isn't the level of work he'd put in, it's that he'd actively refuse to consider opposing styles of play to his own as even valid, let alone deserving of any positive changes.
From my personal discussions on comms with Sabriz, I can assure you that is not the case. He is open to opposing views and argues the merit of them, he does not discount them out of hand unless they are blatantly bad for the game or fallacious in nature. Even if he were biased towards PVP content rather than ballanced as I consider him to be, what is one advocate for content creation out of 14? The CSM are the voice of the players, and historically NO CSM member has represented the play style while EVERY other play style has been represented. That is why I voted for Sabriz, encouraged all my friends too, and sincerely hope that he does in fact get elected.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
11988
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Posted - 2015.03.05 04:28:51 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Of course you can't, but then from a CODE member who quite publicly has some kind of personal problem with me trying to push for a CODE candidate, I hardly expect you to be objective. Didn't you block me already?
I thought you were a dishonest, anklebiting sack of reprocessed carbon well before I was a Code member. And I did block you, my life has been better for it. But I wasn't logged in this account when I looked at the thread.
Quote: At the end of the day, people can take it how they want.
Exactly. So quite harping on this nonsense, quit trying to ramrod your bullshit narrative just because you have a personal opposition to ganking actually having a voice in the CSM. Quit crying about how we're allowed to have an opinion different from yours.
Take your sour grapes and peddle them elsewhere.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5196
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Posted - 2015.03.05 08:32:31 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:From my personal discussions on comms with Sabriz, I can assure you that is not the case. He is open to opposing views and argues the merit of them, he does not discount them out of hand unless they are blatantly bad for the game or fallacious in nature. Even if he were biased towards PVP content rather than ballanced as I consider him to be, what is one advocate for content creation out of 14? The CSM are the voice of the players, and historically NO CSM member has represented the play style while EVERY other play style has been represented. That is why I voted for Sabriz, encouraged all my friends too, and sincerely hope that he does in fact get elected. Perhaps he should state that then. From his ideas and listening to his interviews, he believe that miners should be forced to engage in PvP with guns, a playstyle they are both terrible at and dislike. He states this will add more conflict - by which he means with guns - even though he also states that conflict come in multiple forms.
Please stop referring to it as content creation as if all other playstyles are not. Content is created in a multitude of ways. I don't think any of the CSM member could be considered anti-content. honestly I think what CODE does is damaging to many other playstyles. Effectively you are happy to have your content while roflstomping over everyone else's playstyles in highsec, and you want to be able to do that with even greater ease. It's for that exact reason that sov is being changed to make my own group less effective too. While no, other CSMs don't necessarily represent all playstyles, they certainly are more balanced in their views than Sabriz. Obviously you guys will vote for him because he's pro your playstyle, but outside of that people shouldn't even consider it. Nobody should vote for someone who would quite happily erase whole playtyles and force people to play in ways they don't want to. It's for that exact reason I'd not advocate voting for one of the CSMS who want ganking to just be deleted either.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3961
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:21:31 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1045
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:32:06 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Real life comes first. Yup. Can't CSM if your meat bag starves to death. Can't think and focus if one of the meat bags very similar to your own is struggling, et cetera.Sabriz Adoudel wrote:To a mining-oriented nullsec sov holder, the present system says "We don't care that you'd rather be mining. You need to drop that and rat." This isn't good. Let players choose *how* they use their space and reward them for using it, don't tell them they have to focus on 50% ratting 50% mining..[/i] Ummm ... miners in Null clump together as deep as they can into pockets and pipes for safety. There is no shortage of ratters.
The question that needs thinking about is, "How do I give miners an ability to stand and fight so they feel safe enough to spread out in Null?"
CSM Ten movement for change.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4817
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Posted - 2015.03.11 02:08:29 -
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Here's an image of a kitten to thank people that voted for me.
http://www.superbwallpapers.com/animals/kitten-16219/
It looks tasty!
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23846
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:58:52 -
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Fingers crossed for Sab.
Sleep all day. Party all night. Never grow old. Never die.
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Valkin Mordirc
747
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Posted - 2015.03.12 05:02:41 -
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KITTIES!
Also +1 for Sabriz. Hope you make man,
#DeleteTheWeak
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
136
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:26:57 -
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Despite having 2 gewns and 1 codegewn, the community have managed to protect itself from the truly worst candidates.
Speaking on behalf of all the people who have read you candidacy nonsense I wish to express the following thought: get rekt, son.
A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2527
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:45:32 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Despite having 2 gewns and 1 codegewn, the community have managed to protect itself from the truly worst candidates.
Speaking on behalf of all the people who have read you candidacy nonsense I wish to express the following thought: get rekt, son.
Calm down, miner.
Sabriz - bad luck. Maybe next time?
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1008
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:46:07 -
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4861
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:36:24 -
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I didn't expect to be elected but was always serious about the campaign. This was the result I expected from day 1, if not the result I hoped for.
If time permits I will recontest next year, and hopefully I will be under less RL stress than I have been the past eight months. If I don't contest, I will definitely have - and share - opinions on where EVE should go and opinions on who should make CSM.
Two final things that I hope the elected reps take on.
1) In a competitive game environment with the degree of market PVP of EVE, creating wealth for one subset of players reduces the competitiveness of everyone else.
This applies both to blatant cheating (e.g. T20 at the extreme, bot mining or bot ratting at a less extreme example) but also to game balance changes. To take a hypothetical extreme case, if C3 wormhole sites were buffed to the point that they made you 800 million ISK per pilot per hour, this would have a devastating impact on the rest of the game.
Highsec incursions aren't at that extreme, but they need correction. Null ratting and highsec L4s need looking at too.
2) Be aware that anything posed as a quality of life change always hides a balance change behind it. The changes in Phoebe that allowed invention jobs to be multi-queued were pitched as a quality of life change, yet I would argue they were the biggest balance change in tech 2 production all year.
Assess every proposed change - even the most mundane - for its impact on game balance. Be honest as to what you think that impact will be - then make an informed decision.
Sometimes that will be "Yes, this is good for both QoL and game balance". Sometimes, "This is good for QoL but so bad for game balance that it should be stopped" Sometimes "This is good for QoL, bad for game balance, but the good outweighs the bad." Seldom will it be "This is good for QoL but has no game balance impacts that I can forsee". If you think it is the latter, double and triple check, and ask "Does this affect game balance, but in a way that improves my position in game so I am ignoring it?".
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
136
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Posted - 2015.03.20 02:00:29 -
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admiral root wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:Despite having 2 gewns and 1 codegewn, the community have managed to protect itself from the truly worst candidates.
Speaking on behalf of all the people who have read you candidacy nonsense I wish to express the following thought: get rekt, son. Calm down, miner. Sabriz - bad luck. Maybe next time?
CODE has forgotten about us miners to be a goon pet for like half a year now.
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I didn't expect to be elected but was always serious about the campaign. This was the result I expected from day 1, if not the result I hoped for.
If time permits I will recontest next year, and hopefully I will be under less RL stress than I have been the past eight months. If I don't contest, I will definitely have - and share - opinions on where EVE should go and opinions on who should make CSM.
Two final things that I hope the elected reps take on.
1) In a competitive game environment with the degree of market PVP of EVE, creating wealth for one subset of players reduces the competitiveness of everyone else.
This applies both to blatant cheating (e.g. T20 at the extreme, bot mining or bot ratting at a less extreme example) but also to game balance changes. To take a hypothetical extreme case, if C3 wormhole sites were buffed to the point that they made you 800 million ISK per pilot per hour, this would have a devastating impact on the rest of the game.
Highsec incursions aren't at that extreme, but they need correction. Null ratting and highsec L4s need looking at too.
2) Be aware that anything posed as a quality of life change always hides a balance change behind it. The changes in Phoebe that allowed invention jobs to be multi-queued were pitched as a quality of life change, yet I would argue they were the biggest balance change in tech 2 production all year.
Assess every proposed change - even the most mundane - for its impact on game balance. Be honest as to what you think that impact will be - then make an informed decision.
Sometimes that will be "Yes, this is good for both QoL and game balance". Sometimes, "This is good for QoL but so bad for game balance that it should be stopped" Sometimes "This is good for QoL, bad for game balance, but the good outweighs the bad." Seldom will it be "This is good for QoL but has no game balance impacts that I can forsee". If you think it is the latter, double and triple check, and ask "Does this affect game balance, but in a way that improves my position in game so I am ignoring it?".
1) bawwwww my easymode PvF (player vs freighter) gameplay generates no ISK, please nerf ISK generation so all the free stuff we get with my easymode PvF (player vs freighter) gameplay is worth more.
2) If the main barrier in said activity was based on amount of clicks you have to make and alarm clocks you have to set, when it gets fixed with a QoL change and it revolutionizes it, then either the change is a great boon, or the design was bad in the first place. I wonder if people like you would've argued against 24 hours skill queue thingy back when it was introduced, because it "makes being online less rewarding and thus bad for balance". Screw balance. Your so-called stance was for conflict, and balance is the opposite of that, so why so much bother about balance?
You are a hypocrite in everything except being almost open-stanced "nerf everyone but me candidate" among your gewn masters. You put out the word "conflict" and your final word is crying for balance. You put out the word "role-play" and the only role-play you do is master-slave relationship with gewns. I am not satisfied with CSM election results, but at the same time, extremely proud to be a part of the community which culls candidates like you and Tora.
A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4863
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:08:11 -
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No point responding to a troll. But hey, I'll be indulgent.
I actually thought you were a Mike Azariah supporter (without his skills in smooth talking and diplomacy) until I saw you posted largely the opposite viewpoint in his thread but with the same degree of hostility.
Balance is the opposite of conflict? I've heard it all now. And you should ask people that actually build things what they think of the Phoebe changes. Steve Ronuken believes there's issues with them in hindsight, it's not just me.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
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Mortlake
Somalian Coast Guard Authority
266
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:27:35 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:
I am not satisfied with CSM election results, but at the same time, extremely proud to be a part of the community which culls candidates like you and Tora.
Would everyone now please rise for the national anthem of Neckbeardia.
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
145
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:31:36 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:No point responding to a troll. But hey, I'll be indulgent. That's actually my line, save for replacing "troll" with "troll candidate".
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I actually thought you were a Mike Azariah supporter (without his skills in smooth talking and diplomacy) until I saw you posted largely the opposite viewpoint in his thread but with the same degree of hostility. Mike is one of the responsible for sorry ass state of hisec. I believe next Mke-approved hisec devaluation comes in April. Thus he is almost the same as you, except he convinced his gewn masters that he can successfully pretend to be a hisec candidate, and you couldn't.
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Balance is the opposite of conflict? I've heard it all now. And you should ask people that actually build things what they think of the Phoebe changes. Steve Ronuken believes there's issues with them in hindsight, it's not just me. Looking for balance is looking for status quo. Which IS the opposite of conflict. And only the group which got flown at the top like a turd in the ocean would do that. Indeed, PvF is currently so free you could be worse than my dog at eve (and you probably are, cuz you'd be doing something else if you could), that it feels like the top of the game. Time to seek out "balance", which forever puts your income source into the harmless plants category for you to feed upon with the same ease as now. You even call your farming "conflict", as if gunless ships can shoot back, or freighter pilots have any interest in you.
You are even trying to appeal to obviously higher lifeform such as Steve to gain weight on completely abstract point that "there are issues", without any freaking idea that Steve's plan for them is not "balance" you cry about, but instead removal of exploitable parts that lessen conflict.
What's next in your hypocrisy stream? I mean "Balance is the opposite of conflict? I've heard it all now." is not just your average hypocrisy, it sounded downright Orwellish. Surprise me, go even lower.
A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4869
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:36:06 -
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That didn't make sense tipsy and I know it won't make sense sober.
Not intending to get drunk tonight, so a reply might be a while off.
I am not a Goon and I make no secret that I often build things to sell to their rivals in wars. I'm neutral with respect to sov null conflicts. However, even I think that Goonswarm Federation deserves an apology for the accusation of being affiliated with Mike Azariah.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
146
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:27:50 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:That didn't make sense tipsy and I know it won't make sense sober.
Not intending to get drunk tonight, so a reply might be a while off.
I am not a Goon and I make no secret that I often build things to sell to their rivals in wars. I'm neutral with respect to sov null conflicts. However, even I think that Goonswarm Federation deserves an apology for the accusation of being affiliated with Mike Azariah.
It is no secret that the code of CODE openly states being the pets of gewns. You are in the CODE, you have the link to the code of CODE in your sig. What else? Being a gewn hisec pet is not about null sov, of course, it's doing what master orders. CODE is trying hard at that, and that includes you.
Mike is not in "affiliation", he just has been considered harmless and allowed to not be culled for being spineless teethless nobody of a CSM.
A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1122
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:11:46 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:[quote=Sabriz Adoudel]Looking for balance is looking for status quo. Which IS the opposite of conflict.. To try put the above posts more simply:
- The game is weighted in the attackers favour and they still complain.
- They wonder why people get angry when they exploit weaknesses in the mechanics.
- Even ratters have more back bones because the rats actually shoot back.
Essentially, CCP can not code better brains for gankers and are breaking the game in the process.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2529
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:38:18 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:It is no secret that the code of CODE openly states being the pets of gewns. You are in the CODE, you have the link to the code of CODE in your sig. What else? Being a gewn hisec pet is not about null sov, of course, it's doing what master orders. CODE is trying hard at that, and that includes you.
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:Looking for balance is looking for status quo. Which IS the opposite of conflict.. To try put the above posts more simply:
- The game is weighted in the attackers favour and they still complain.
- They wonder why people get angry when they exploit weaknesses in the mechanics.
- Even ratters have more back bones because the rats actually shoot back.
Essentially, CCP can not code better brains for gankers and are breaking the game in the process.
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No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1124
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:03:40 -
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CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
423
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:44:04 -
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I have removed a trollish/disrespectful post and those quoting it. Please be respectful if you want to participate on the forums.
Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
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CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
952
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:01:05 -
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Things and Stuff.
That is my official statement.
You can quote me "On That."
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The Best CSM Candidate
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