Concord does not protect you. Concord has never protected you. Concord will never protect you.
They punish the baddies after the fact.
The only things protecting you are yourself and the fear others have of being punished for doing the bad thing.

Yes concord and highsec are an joke you are right :)

Actually, I was being completely serious.
Concord exists to punish, not protect.
The only thing mildly funny would be actually believing that they are supposed to protect you.
There is no joke. We all bear the consequences of our own actions and failures to act.

There are no bubbles in high sec, so assuming that you keep your cool you should almost always be able to get your pod out. Aside from that there aren't many differences for the recipient of the booms.
On the other hand, in Null they get to keep their ships, your loot, and your frozen corpse after they violate you without consent. In high sec they lose their ship automatically for pulling the trigger, plus get a 15 minute time out during which they cannot undock in another ship without it happening again.... In other words, there are greater repercussions in high for the aggressor than elsewhere.

Relevant

Your killboard is a testament to why the rules are the way they are.

The big part Omar didn't mention is you have a very limited time frame to kill the target.

Concord does not protect you. Concord has never protected you. Concord will never protect you.
They punish the baddies after the fact.
The only things protecting you are yourself and the fear others have of being punished for doing the bad thing.

Actually, the pod spawns after the initial ship is popped and aligns pretty much instantly. If you're already spamming warp to a celestial or safe point before your structure vaporizes, the odds are VERY good that your pod will safely warp away regardless of how many ships there are out there. In null those warp bubbles removes this option completely, meaning if you're in one you are a meatsickle to be.

Getting your pod out:
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/06/getting-your-pod-out.html
Ganking avoidance:
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html

And as far as shiny fits go, you might want to consider limiting your overall module values so they at least don't exceed the cost of the hull of your ship. Just an idea. T2 with a few faction mods generally wont raise too many eyebrows, but driving round with a gold plated hood ornament and sterling silver spinning rims is going to draw unwanted attention.

Ok tere is high sec and null sec in highsec there is concord to protect you and we have wardecs to be able to kill in high sec so far so good :)

Sounds like a fair system ?

But then there are bling bling mods in highsec the are being sold by the gankers to the rich carebears that are protected by concord.

After the sel of the bling bling mod the go to an locater agent and the wil find the carebear and kill him bevore concord can do anyting ad al .


AHHH there we go concord is a joke ?
It is easyer to kil some one in highsec then it is in nulsec ?
There is no high sec ?

OK why do the not remove concord because we want gankers to be abel to gank ? And we can see the can gank everyting the want because concord is a JOKE

So remove concord ?

if we do that we can stop the big lie that high sec is safe and that concord wil protect you and ganking wil be legal .

Ganking needs to be legal ? YES . Then why do we have CONCORD ? and HIGHSEC ?

DAM i am so confused :(

look. The truth is that the people who are responding to you (OP) in this thread who happen to be pirates, gankers, pvper's and whatnot... any advice they give you is generally honest (for the most part). The scary thing is the pve'ers are the ones who will give you the bad advice.
It doesn't matter if you buy the shinies with your alt and move them out sneaky-like. Once your ship undocks and that frigate with the passive targetter detects that you are driving a pimp-fit sports car, you have become a target to be hunted. Just keep your fits sane, keep your wits about you, and fly safely and you'll likely have no problems running missions in your marauder.
Just remember that YOU are the primary force responsible for your own protection and you'll do fine.

Undock from mission agent station, you get scanned. Learn to EvE dolt.

You can't post on the forums with out getting ganked.

I post all the time and have never been ganked.

That may be true, but you are paranoid, loyd.

OP....after looking at your killboard...the problem ain't the gankers...the problem is you.

Learn to fit your ******* ships. I mean, do you have any understanding of the concept of buffer tanking? Get your EHP up to a nice high level, and make the gankers bring a whole lot of people or some real expensive ships to kill you.

FFS - ALWAYS have a damage control fitted. One pith C invul ain't enough, stick at least 2 of em on. And maybe stick the adaptive armor membrane in a lowslot. Come on man....your ships are a painful fail-fit...you are BEGGING TO GET GANKED. Learn to fit at least with a modicum of tank, even if it means L4s will take you another 2 minutes.

.............You're, like, half right? To be optimistic....

100% right, as per usual.

The answer to "begging to be ganked" is to fit more overly expensive mods? Next you'll be telling newish players that they should spend real money in order to buy a faction battleship to run incursions with regardless of their skills.

If you are going to fly a blinged battleship to run L4s, some of that bling needs to be on tank. With some Pith Cs and a good shield buffer, you make it painful and expensive to gank you, and send the gankers scurrying elsewhere.

Highsec isn't nullsec....you just need to survive long enough for your CONCORD allies to show up.

Some of the smarter gankers will scan your ship prior to the gank, and account for the EHP. And fitting more expensive modules on the ship will just make it more likely that you will get ganked.

"Okay, so what follows is entirely my personal opinion.

It's not a case of not "catering to the tearfilled entitled", it's a case of us staying true to the core of what EVE was built on.

Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.

Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.

While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.

The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.

True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.

The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.

EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.

EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.

EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.

Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.

EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.

Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.

That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.

Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience."

OP....after looking at your killboard...the problem ain't the gankers...the problem is you.

Learn to fit your ******* ships. I mean, do you have any understanding of the concept of buffer tanking? Get your EHP up to a nice high level, and make the gankers bring a whole lot of people or some real expensive ships to kill you.

FFS - ALWAYS have a damage control fitted. One pith C invul ain't enough, stick at least 2 of em on. And maybe stick the adaptive armor membrane in a lowslot. Come on man....your ships are a painful fail-fit...you are BEGGING TO GET GANKED. Learn to fit at least with a modicum of tank, even if it means L4s will take you another 2 minutes.

Not sure if serious. If so LOL at the idea to dual tank your being ship to make it better.

If you have that much bling on it dual tanking is ok...the main threat is gankers, not the joke mission rats.

So if there is no protection or false protection in High Sec ?

What is then the difference between hi and nullsec for the victem ?

That's still doing it wrong. Obligatory: http://xkcd.com/463/

#clueless

#dunning-kruger

So if there is no protection or false protection in High Sec ? What is then the difference between hi and nullsec for the victem ?

If you have that much bling on it dual tanking is ok...the main threat is gankers, not the joke mission rats.

Um no. Dual tanking is always a crappy idea and it wont save you from a gank. All it will do is largely nullify all the isk you wasted pimping out the other modules in the first place.

Dual tanking is elite PvE, didn't you know?

I don't elite PVE so I guess I don't

For those who don't get why you dual tank officer mod fitted ships in highsec.

#CompleteLackOfSituationalAwareness

But please do keep parroting the no dual tank screed, while the purple fitted ships keep xploding.

Please, please come clean. You have to be trolling with this.

So what do do you do with your 3 lows? Well one is obv a DC (a form of hull tanking, dual tanking ftw!). And the last 2? Well let's ponder. We have massively more gank than we need to tears through any rats. The only threat to us is gankers. And nothing we put in the last 2 slots will materially boost shields. So what do we do? Throw in some armor resist mods to nicely boost our armor ehp.

Power diagnostic systems in the low slots give a boost to shield EHP. Guess you are not so elite after all!

Veers Belvar is my ALT.

EULA violation much? I am not an alt of any CODE member, thank heavens.

Only the true messiah denies his divinity...

An adaptive nano is gonna give you way more ehp than a crummy 5% pds bonus.

That is true. However, you stated that "nothing we put in the last 2 slots will materially boost shields" which is factually incorrect.

Notice the word "materially" - a crummy 5% boost to shield EHP won't do much to deter gankers. Significantly cutting your armor resist holes will.

Falsely claiming to be my alt is a EULA violation. Would you like to explain to the ISD's why you are doing so?

Ok tere is high sec and null sec in highsec there is concord to protect you and we have wardecs to be able to kill in high sec so far so good :)

Sounds like a fair system ?

But then there are bling bling mods in highsec the are being sold by the gankers to the rich carebears that are protected by concord.

After the sel of the bling bling mod the go to an locater agent and the wil find the carebear and kill him bevore concord can do anyting ad al .


AHHH there we go concord is a joke ?
It is easyer to kil some one in highsec then it is in nulsec ?
There is no high sec ?

OK why do the not remove concord because we want gankers to be abel to gank ? And we can see the can gank everyting the want because concord is a JOKE

So remove concord ?

if we do that we can stop the big lie that high sec is safe and that concord wil protect you and ganking wil be legal .

Ganking needs to be legal ? YES . Then why do we have CONCORD ? and HIGHSEC ?

DAM i am so confused :(

"Officer modules are considered contraband. Any pilot found to be in possession of officer modules will be met with the full force of the law."

There are other flaws in your argument. The addition of EHP obtained from the armor resist modules would increase the cost of the gank by a few nados at most. That extra cost would not deter a ganksquad from liberating the purple modules from your carebear ship.

Falsely claiming to be my alt is a EULA violation. Would you like to explain to the ISD's why you are doing so?

There is a better method.

And nothing we put in the last 2 slots will materially boost shields. So what do we do?

Someone shoot me, I gave Veers a LIKE

You would need to undock for that. Zing!

Good one agent

Respect from the gank fleet you were in last night your damage was on point!

I'm not an agent. I'm an elite PvE player - and I oppose both CHODE and Marmite.

Ok, Sherlock....time to give you some clues.

Assume you have a Machariel....you decide to regal it in purple. So in addition to your two A type adaptive and X type shield booster, as well as X type AB, you have 1 open spot. You throw in a purple tracking computer, and now your mids are full. In your lows, you decide to be baller and throw in 4 purple gyros, leaving you with spots. Your rigs are all cap boost rigs.

So what do do you do with your 3 lows? Well one is obv a DC (a form of hull tanking, dual tanking ftw!). And the last 2? Well let's ponder. We have massively more gank than we need to tears through any rats. The only threat to us is gankers. And nothing we put in the last 2 slots will materially boost shields. So what do we do? Throw in some armor resist mods to nicely boost our armor ehp.

We have now made it significantly harder for gankers to kill us, they will need more people and bigger ships, which makes ganking a lot less likely.

And that, folks, is why you ALWAYS dual tank officer fit mission ships in highsec.

How about not putting Purple and ridiculously expensive blues and faction mods on sub caps in HS? Trust me, you can do Level 4 missions in a basic T1 battleship using a basic T2 fit. If you do so, no one will bother you and if you do get blown up, who cares? Fly in dumb-**** like this and you even get hardened carebears to jump into a catalyst.

What does using a fit like that do? subtract maybe 5 minutes off the time it takes to complete a mission? Is it really worth a major loss like this? Serious questions.