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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:37:58 -
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Warr Akini wrote:I've had a good suicide ganking run, but the wave of nerfs against it don't seem to be stopping anytime soon.
Thanks. It's been fun.
seriously you needed isboxer for suicide ganking? |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:44:30 -
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drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote:
yes. it is mentioned in the devblog :) |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:45:33 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Does this apply to inventory management within the same station?
For example... I occasionally go on a ship giveaway binge where I'll fit up several dozen frigs / destroyers, fill their cargo with the skills needed to fly them, and then give them out in newbie systems.
Obviously click dragging a dozen items one by one is tedious in the extreme and any automation would be a godsend.
Is it acceptable to load up a bunch of accounts at once and use broadcasting to speed up this process?
saved fittings dude.
just saying. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:14:24 -
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Nie'eine Hier wrote:finally a good decision how about limiting access in a system to 500 characters in the same time so blob fleets be history too and give smaller alliances or coalitions a chance to have a good fight not get slaughtered
goons squash 500 people into the system before your side can get in 1.
you gained what? |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:42:38 -
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he already posted in this thread that he will find other uses for his 32 accounts. :) |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:49:27 -
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Rawthorm wrote:While I've never used software like ISBoxer, I can imagine that it's use probably increased quality of life for most non-ISBox using eve players.
BomberBox fleets were quite rare and despite the number of butt hurt people who've clearly not been paying attention and got caught by one, I don't think they began to come close to outweighing the benefits such as making Ice easy to harvest leaving the rest of us time to actually play the more fun aspects of EvE rather than spend half our lives slowly grinding icecubes. Almost every player in EvE has benefited from cheaper fuel and cheaper ships because of those using ISBoxer, so is an overriding ban worth it just to get rid of a few trolling bombers on your space?
I think it's seriously time for CCP to look into quality of life improvements for running infrastructure and give us bigger and better gear to use (and put at risk) to cut down the time spent doing all the boring monotonous stuff.
bomber fleets got a bit less common because their most common pray (battleships) got less common. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:50:39 -
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PL really has a thing for Taylor Swift it seems :p
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:14:23 -
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Systimus wrote:I use isboxer to mine with 4 accounts. Never have pvp'd with it. I don't use constantly but might use it to activate auto pilot or to dock. If I'm reading this correctly, this action with be banned . So no point in having 4 accounts so might as well cancel 3 of them.
Elite dangerous is out soon. Maybe cancel all 4 and have a go at that instead.
lol ... seriously ... 4 toon mining and you needed isboxer for it? good god, kids are lazy nowadays. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:24:13 -
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Taram Caldar wrote:Mierin Arthie wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:We would like to clarify that it does not matter how Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are being done, whether through use of software or modified hardware. Our only concern is regarding how it is being used in the EVE universe. How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch That's command broadcasting/multiplexing and it still falls under the policy. They said regardless if it's a hardware or software solution. Using a stick with a lever to manipulate 10 mice to do the same thing at the same time to multibox would even be covered under this.
it is not multiplexing unless the kvm switch allows signal duplication. 1:1 sending is fine. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:44:41 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote: You should have hust changed the the way cloaking works back to how it used to be. IS-boxing Battleship is a totally different thing as IS boxing stealth bombers that do not decloak each other. I genuinly do not care about 30 man Skiff fleets that are operated by one guy tbh. They harm noone and should not have a
1. X battleships doing the same is just as powerful. maybe not as safe as bombers but still 2. 30miners *definitely* have an impact on the ore/mineral prices for others. market is demand and supply. and those isboxed miners can fill a lot of demand. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:52:36 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:virm pasuul wrote: -snip
From your post it's difficult to work out which side of the fence you sit on. You start off seeming to critcize the change. You then go on to make a load of points illustrating why the change is a good thing for Eve. Could you clarify please?
I'm personally against the change completely. I'm more annoyed at the lack of talk from CCP to the multibox community to see if a compromise could be reached (see: jump drives, bombers, nearly every other change) because I don't believe the current CSM has any multiboxers on it. I would have been willing to accept a ban on using ISBoxer to PVP with the exceptions involving defending oneself from invading forces in a WH / Null site, but CCP doesn't care.
yes leaving that loop hole^wgate open wouldnt cause a lot of "fun" for all the GMs. Totally not. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:58:45 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Am I too late to drink in the tears or are they all gone?
dont worry, we filled the tanks. orca size or freighter size delivery? |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:00:20 -
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Mendeli Vium wrote:so if i understand correctly i can use IS Boxer to tile clients on my comp but not activate mods or navigate with it ?
correct. |

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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:01:51 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:This is illegal too right? https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/home
He is using hardware to duplicate an input. Hell at this point of definition it could be considered illegal to use alt tab to rapidly issue commands.
Yes. it is also mentioned in the initial post. ;)
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:14:15 -
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Rain6637 wrote:speaking of things that should be in the client, here's an idea players might want to get behind. it involves expanding the automation within the client to support all fleet roles that will be eliminated as a result of this ban. I am accused several times in the thread for trolling, but it is a very serious suggestion. basically, the FC and other fleet command positions will have full control of their leadership tree. oddly enough, I was about to install ISBoxer for the first time today. I woke up to the TMC article about this announcement. you could say I'm feeling right as rain right now. to anyone concerned about the loss of control without ISBoxer: the days of 50-boxing may be gone, but 10-boxing is very doable without ISBoxer, it just takes practice.
you know drone mass assign was removed to make more people play and not having them all just twisting thumbs while the guy with all drones assigned blaps things. with that in mind how likely do you think is your dreaming in the link? |

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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:15:55 -
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Nasar Vyron wrote:Just wanna throw this out there to start, I am always amazed how players can support actions taken to shrink their player base. That actually like seeing people quit and their game shrivel. I laugh every time. With that said...
This seems like a far more harmful action to be taking without concurrent buffs within the game. I personally do not ISBox, yet can see it's necessity within a game with a shrinking player base for market stability. Think about it's primary use: Mining. Can you tell me that you think that when this starts being enforced that mineral prices will not begin to skyrocket? Do you believe that ship, module, ammo, and drone prices will not go up in turn? Simple case of supply and demand people. This will not cut off your supply entirely, but it will completely remove a large percentage of your suppliers. I would assume most players who make use of this program are strongly contemplating unloading their characters and leaving entirely.
While most of us can say that the multiboxing suicide ganks and bombers are annoying.. and may be glad to see their frequency decline (they will NEVER stop unless ccp wants to kill this game entirely).. this action is too broad without a patch hitting concurrently increasing the mineral payouts of refining modules and ore. CCP is removing a large portion of the game supply without supplementing it with anything. More players will not start mining until the prices are already increasing making the profits worth their time to change their professions. By that time the damage has been done and while the market will stabilize it will be much higher than what we currently see.
CCP this is too broad an action. Some people are upset about the pvp related actions of that segment of the player base. Those you see crying now about multiboxing miners don't seem to understand what they actually contribute to the game or are simply bandwagoning trolls who do understand but just like to watch the world burn.
I'll end with this I really have no horse in this game. Just wanted to throw that out there and maybe open some eyes.
See it from this side ... we just try to get a lot of rookies into the game. do we really want to tell them "oh and you can run in 10-20 people controlled by isboxer to kill you" or "you have to compete with 20 isboxed miners, and most of the time they will clear out the ice belt that you are happy you get one load of ice before it is gone"
is that really the message you want to tell them? |

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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:23:37 -
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Nasar Vyron wrote:Airi Cho wrote:
See it from this side ... we just try to get a lot of rookies into the game. do we really want to tell them "oh and you can run in 10-20 people controlled by isboxer to kill you" or "you have to compete with 20 isboxed miners, and most of the time they will clear out the ice belt that you are happy you get one load of ice before it is gone"
is that really the message you want to tell them?
I get what you're saying. But I see the reality of it being that single new player will likely never contribute as much to the economy as that single ISBoxer. And will be several months before he can even mine as much as one of his alts. That's assuming he's willing to put in the same amount of time. I see this best for the new players, I just am fearful about how many we will lose compared to how many we will gain. I'm not going anywhere either way, CCP obviously thinks this is for the best so we will have to sit, wait, and see.
right but i would rather have 20 newbies become profitable miners instead of 1 guy with 20 accounts. |
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