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Noragli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
82
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:18:16 -
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With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.
Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced? |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
15299
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:30:59 -
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Noragli wrote:With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.
Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?
With the new year we should see a considerable reduction in supply, if you know what I mean.
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Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1303
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:36:08 -
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With the broadcasting changes, or for anyone with an IQ under 75 "Isbotter ban", there should be potentially less mega fleets mining ice in highsec. I expect this just means that regular players with only a few miners will clean up the ice belts instead, resulting in no net change.
If anything, once the speculation is over, yes, the demand for isotopes should start to wane, relative to supply, and drop the price. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
228
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:41:20 -
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Arronicus wrote:With the broadcasting changes, or for anyone with an IQ under 75 "Isbotter ban", there should be potentially less mega fleets mining ice in highsec. I expect this just means that regular players with only a few miners will clean up the ice belts instead, resulting in no net change.
If anything, once the speculation is over, yes, the demand for isotopes should start to wane, relative to supply, and drop the price.
Don't forget the people that are running away from ice mining right now, since the prices are this low. Ice miners might even come out of it better than before. Just be patient, OP, 2015 is coming.
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Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic
Did he say Jump
139
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Posted - 2014.11.27 12:48:15 -
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The solution to this problem is some nice white hot pulse beams of justice.
Let us make violence upon these uppity ice cubes! Allow them to be blown up by missiles and guns!
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
948
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Posted - 2014.11.27 13:44:27 -
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No worries. With the mass exodus of multi boxing ice fleets the price will go up again in no time!
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LordHascouf
Full Spectrum Inc
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
19
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:15:06 -
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If it's not profitable move on to something else. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
1055
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:20:58 -
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Noragli wrote:With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.
Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?
Absolutely not. Why artificially influence and thus undermine the credibility of the market? Free markets fluctuate, and they WORK.
\m/ O.o \m/
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1382
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:35:05 -
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Arronicus wrote:With the broadcasting changes, or for anyone with an IQ under 75 "Isbotter ban", there should be potentially less mega fleets mining ice in highsec. I expect this just means that regular players with only a few miners will clean up the ice belts instead, resulting in no net change.
If anything, once the speculation is over, yes, the demand for isotopes should start to wane, relative to supply, and drop the price.
The ice field should be cleaned up at least a bit slower than they are now thus generating less respawn per day so the total produced might drop a bit. |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
387
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:27:25 -
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Well obviously the supply is greater then demand when jump fuel consumption was dropped to 1/3 over night. 
In case you haven't realized capitals use fuel per light year which was dropped from 14,6ly to 5ly with a wait in between. |
Nou Mene
0ne Percent.
Odin's Call
1
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:31:36 -
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Belts should be destructible. Then price would probably go up... |
Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:03:47 -
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I only have the first months consumption since the patch as a guide, my corp under the old system kept 2 months worth of fuel on hand. We now have 14.5 months of fuel sitting in out hangers. I can see ice price going up a bit, but no where close to its old levels |
Josef Djugashvilis
2710
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:09:09 -
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Single malt whisky with ice.
Repeat as needed.
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Serene Repose
1662
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:19:06 -
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I have a better idea. Mine other things, unless of course the bots can't manage.
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Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
207
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:23:50 -
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I think ccp was tired of isboxer fleets plexing and whatnot. You don't even know how many isboxer incursion fleets I noticed in one incursion.
EVE is going through chemotherapy, it will be rough for a little bit but lets just hope it survives.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1170
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:43:27 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.
Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced? With the new year we should see a considerable reduction in supply, if you know what I mean.
Truth. |
metalravenous
S0utherN Comfort
DARKNESS.
44
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Posted - 2014.11.28 09:06:28 -
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the correct counter to over supply of ice is stop mining ice |
Alastair Ormand
Running With Scissors.
Apocalypse Now.
87
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Posted - 2014.11.28 09:41:08 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Noragli wrote:With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.
Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced? With the new year we should see a considerable reduction in supply, if you know what I mean.
Jesus.... That guy who multiboxes like 90 accounts is screwed.
Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services
CAStabouts
198
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:30:14 -
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Oh noes, makret forces are creating a drop in prices and Im not making insanly huge space moneez, CCP please fix so I make insane space moneez. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
25164
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:32:13 -
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What's going on here?
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
826
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:39:50 -
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I've been pestering them to give criminal dog tags a valid use for 5 years, get in line.
And as mentioned, we will see what happens in the new year. |
Raviel Oxidans
Uranus Intruders
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:41:45 -
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I know!
Make ice belts hackable! |
AgentMaster
Dinoblood Reborn
Harkonnen Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.02.13 17:19:45 -
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Maybe need all ice miners to stop selling ice, but please "Do not fire blankets to kill fleas". No one think for miners - look theyr ships - look like from stone age  no any improvements for them.
CCP say only good things here but no one say: "Miners will pay for this !... Road to hell is paved with good intentions...
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
487
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Posted - 2015.02.13 17:22:58 -
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There's always those who think when an obscenely over-priced thing (they've been making a fortune from) finally reaches a reasonable price, the price is TOO LOW. Why is that, dyathink? Got me puzzled. No. Really.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9768
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Posted - 2015.02.13 17:30:50 -
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Took me a second to notice the necro, I'm reading this and thinking "WTF do they mean a near year is coming" lol. |
DaReaper
Net 7
1782
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:42:47 -
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Yup helping with my necromancer powers.. rawr!
Depending on the changes to null and pos' that should be comign Soon(tm) we will most likly see ice prices fall again. Or they could go up, boo knows. interesting times are ahead
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1585
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:56:36 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Took me a second to notice the necro, I'm reading this and thinking "WTF do they mean a near year is coming" lol.
It took me all the way to my own previous post. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19819
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:04:15 -
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Grrrrr Player-driven economy!!!!!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6236
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Posted - 2015.02.13 22:26:20 -
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Noragli wrote:With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.
Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?
Spirits, Quafe, and Ice cubes in my hold would help me further define what kind of person I am to whoever destroys my ship
(someone who was probably too drunk to PVP would be the best assumption at that point)
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Memphis Baas
160
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:37:58 -
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Instead of increasing demand let's cut supply. We should be forced to defend the ice belts from the evil Drifters and their battleships that can destroy the ice roids with one shot. |
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