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Ben Samuels
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:28:28 -
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o7.
Trying to figure out my maximum velocity with MWD active. So far I have:
Ship: Condor
Base Velocity: 400
Attribute Modifier #1: Navigation (5)
Gåæ Modifier Percentage: 25%
Adjusted Base Velocity: 500
Attribute Modifier #2: Overdrive Injector System II
Gåæ Modifier Percentage: 12.5%
Gåæ Stacking Effectiveness: 100%
Adjusted Base Velocity: 562.5
Attribute Modifier #3: Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gåæ Modifier Percentage: 9.4%
Gåæ Stacking Effectiveness: 86.9%
Adjusted Modifier Percentage: 8.1686%
Adjusted Base Velocity: 608.448375
Attribute Modifier #4: Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Gåæ Modifier Percentage: 7.25%
Gåæ Stacking Effectiveness: 57.1%
Adjusted Modifier Percentage: 4.13975%
Adjusted Base Velocity: 633.636616604062
Attribute Modifier #5: Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Gåæ Modifier Percentage: 5.5%
Gåæ Stacking Effectiveness: 28.3%
Adjusted Modifier Percentage: 1.5565%
Adjusted Base Velocity: 643.499170541505
SHIP TOOLTIP BASE VELOCITY: 643.50
MWD INFO
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I:
Gåæ Modifier Percentage: 500%
Acceleration Control (4)
Gåæ Modifier Percentage (To MWD): 20%
Adjusted MWD Percentage Bonus: 600%
Ship Thrust: 1,500,000
Ship Mass: 1,100,000
MWD Mass: 500,000
Formula for Maximum Velocity Calculation: =(Adjusted Base Velocity)*(1+((Ship thrust)/(Ship Mass + MWD Mass)*(Adjusted MWD Percentage Bonus))
LESS WORDY
Maximum Velocity = 643.499170541505*(1+((1,500,000/1,600,000)*6))
This Equals: 4263.18200483747
SHIP TOOLTIP STATES: 4263.09
Thanks for the help!
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Brad314
Prospero's Island
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:08:30 -
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Wow. That's a lot of math. Personally I use EFT....
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Square PI
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:24:51 -
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Brad314 wrote:Wow. That's a lot of math. Personally I use EFT....
You sound like my GF. When we are in the supermarket she always say: I don't know what I have to pay, the cashier is telling me.
Every time I am speechless. |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:43:10 -
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That's 0.002% error.
Probably a rounding thing.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:05:39 -
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EFT or simply fit the ship and see for yourself.
I think you are seriously overthinking this whole thing.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:22:39 -
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Ben Samuels wrote:
SHIP TOOLTIP STATES: 4263.09
The tooltips are often wrong. Just sayin' |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:50:45 -
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Example MWD calculation:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4716018#post4716018
The MWD is the only complex calculation. Module & rig effects are subject to stacking penalty, but that is well documented: Aenigma's Stacking Penalty Guide (skip to chapter 3) |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:53:59 -
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Ben, did you ever see the movie "Pi"?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:22:47 -
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If you're off by .09200483747 and you just can't get over it...if it bugs you that badly...
I have the numbers for some really good psychiatrists. Let us know when something happens.
Oh yeah, and Pi was great. Not to be confused with Life of Pi. This guy had no life.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:45:08 -
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The answer is......
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:27:21 -
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Serene Repose wrote:If you're off by .09200483747 and you just can't get over it...if it bugs you that badly...
I have the numbers for some really good psychiatrists. Let us know when something happens.
Ironically 09200483747 is the number of a psychiatrist.
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Cristl
Perkone
Caldari State
215
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:43:20 -
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It's a rounding error from the stacking penalties. Find the formula and use more precise values if it bugs you |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:48:22 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Serene Repose wrote:If you're off by .09200483747 and you just can't get over it...if it bugs you that badly...
I have the numbers for some really good psychiatrists. Let us know when something happens.
Ironically 09200483747 is the number of a psychiatrist.
But not the Islington flat where they held a fancy dress party.
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:52:29 -
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Rounding + computer math. I sincerely doubt CCP went through the trouble of ensuring accuracy to a scientific degree. Computers *always* have to round off at some point, or floating point numbers would take up all of your RAM. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
4387
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:20:48 -
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baltec1 wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:
Ironically 09200483747 is the number of a psychiatrist.
But not the Islington flat where they held a fancy dress party.
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Darren Airtex
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:08:31 -
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Your overthinking the problem. The answer is so simple my 7 year old figured it out in like 4 seconds.
Equip the ship, undock and punch it and see how fast you can get your ship to fly. |
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
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Posted - 2014.11.30 21:14:27 -
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Umm, your formula for maximum velocity calculation is malformed...
On topic: Rounding errors. A rational number that can be represented by a finite amount of digits in decimal might have a periodic representation in binary and vice versa. Example: 0.2 in decimal is 0.00110011001100110011... in binary. |
Darth Schweinebacke
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:51:16 -
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nvm |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2014.11.30 23:33:07 -
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Darren Airtex wrote:Your overthinking the problem. The answer is so simple my 7 year old figured it out in like 4 seconds.
Equip the ship, undock and punch it and see how fast you can get your ship to fly.
Your 7yo = future PVP master. He/she has just figured out half of this game already, and the other half is easy. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.01 00:29:27 -
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Darren Airtex wrote:
Equip the ship, undock and punch it and see how fast you can get your ship to fly.
Theoretically you can never reach the maximum in game by accelerating up to it. You would just get extremely close.
To fly at the MWD max speed you would need to somehow be already going faster than MWD max and decelerate down to it. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:27:17 -
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Your error is in the stacking penalties.
You have rounded them to the nearest 0.1% but they are actually not precisely what you said. The stacking penalties are exactly equal to e^-(x/2.67)^2 for the x+1'th module penalty.
Signed - someone that's as much of a math geek as you.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
& Vote #2 Tora Bushido
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.12.01 23:17:58 -
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Thread has been moved to Ships & Modules.
ISD Ezwal
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To mare
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:44:44 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Darren Airtex wrote:
Equip the ship, undock and punch it and see how fast you can get your ship to fly.
Theoretically you can never reach the maximum in game by accelerating up to it. You would just get extremely close. To fly at the MWD max speed you would need to somehow be already going faster than MWD max and decelerate down to it.
you can give yor mwd a cycle of overheat and on the next cycle you will go at full speed |
Iyokus Patrouette
No Vacancies
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:19:27 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Darren Airtex wrote:
Equip the ship, undock and punch it and see how fast you can get your ship to fly.
Theoretically you can never reach the maximum in game by accelerating up to it. You would just get extremely close. To fly at the MWD max speed you would need to somehow be already going faster than MWD max and decelerate down to it.
Sit inside a POS, Change the force field password. I've just gone faster than a MWD.
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:45:34 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Your error is in the stacking penalties.
You have rounded them to the nearest 0.1% but they are actually not precisely what you said. The stacking penalties are exactly equal to e^-(x/2.67)^2 for the x+1'th module penalty.
Signed - someone that's as much of a math geek as you.
Or more accurately: e^-(x/(2+(2/3))^2, because 2.67 is 2+2/3 rounded to the nearest hundredth.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
440
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Posted - 2014.12.06 04:45:38 -
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32-bit ulp(ship mass + MWD mass) ~ 0.125 so your error is about the expected magnitude. |
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