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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Singular on 16/10/2003 16:47:07
The only conclusion I can come to is that they are working on an expansion pack, thus dividing their crew. The reason I believe this is because...
1) Its the only viable way to get new subscribers. Stores will not all of a sudden take more copies of "Eve-online" the original, only because the publishers ask them to.
2) Because progress has been ridiculously slow. Also, certain things have completely disappeared. We were supposed to have hybrid ships like months ago, and they arent even talked about anymore in CSMs, etc..
3) Because I like conspiracies.
4)  <-- Best Emoticon ever.
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lynxlynx
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:05:00 -
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a expansion pack is out of the question I think...
if they cant fix the first game...who is gonna buy a expansion pack??
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Jolo
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:11:00 -
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think about it lynx, it's like they can release the game all over again. I've heard only rumours though, never saw a single ccp person ever mention it.
They almost have to do this, becuase I think the game player base fell far short of thier expectations.
I used to see 6000 people online at once, now a days I only see 2000 or around there when i'm on.
It just seems wierd to me they can create this uber complex game then take almost half to year to fix little balancing bugs and add a few items???
My ideas:
1) After release they released 99% of the programmers and bug people and left a small crew to continue. (that's what we did in my last start up company, most of the programmers save 1 were let go after release of our software.)
2) All the people are working on something else and they will suprise us.
BTW Singular: (Offtopic) Invidious is coming to get you.
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:13:00 -
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I think because they're trying to fix the problems first.
Stuck systems...lag...exploits...bugs...etc
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Tabius
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:21:00 -
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If CCP were to release an expansion pack in the next 6 months and try and make me pay for it when we've had so many bugs and problems with this game... I (right now) promise to cancel my account and send my CD Key and account information to the first person who asks....
in other words.... yes... you can have my stuff.
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Tease
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:23:00 -
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The only conclusion I can come to is that they are working on an expansion pack, thus dividing their crew. The reason I believe this is because...
I saw something on an in-game site that had a forum. someone posted something about seeing expansion screenshots. i can't remember which in-game site it was though, the bookmark thing for the browser hasn't worked for like 2 patches..
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[2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's
less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level?
[2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning
lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you
[2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players
are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on
the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |
Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:26:00 -
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BTW Singular: (Offtopic) Invidious is coming to get you.
Hehe, who are you and why do I care?
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Jolo
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:28:00 -
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you podkilled some of my corp mates and friends like 3 months ago, in Y9G-KS i believe. we still havn't gotten revenge.
Just hope you're ready 
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:35:00 -
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hehe, your lucky if we dont come out there and pod kill you again =)
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Erty
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:48:00 -
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http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=17986
No, there's no expansion in development.
And WHY do you whiners always lie? (Jolo).
Atleast we fanboys are honest.
2000 online? Ah, so that's why average users online are around 3000. That's why we have a stable ~5500 online at sundays (small decline last two weeks though :/).
Please.
Anyway I think that much of the stuff they've been working on is almost ready, but it isn't released yet. I mean lots of stuff are in testing on chaos, and more stuff is coming soon (tm).
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:50:00 -
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"2000 online? Ah, so that's why average users online are around 3000. That's why we have a stable ~5500 online at sundays (small decline last two weeks though :/)."
Actually, there are far fewer players playing. The reasons the numbers are as high as they even are is because a lot of people in this game have multiple accounts. I would say 30% of my corp has more than 1 account.
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Erty
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:51:00 -
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Your point being?
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 17:59:00 -
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*sigh*
My point being is that was not the case in release.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.10.16 18:01:00 -
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Having lots of players with extra accounts playing their alts simultaneously with their mains on the same server i kind of an industry standard. So it doesn't matter **** if EVE's numbers include those extra accounts, because the reference material out there has tons of bots aswell.
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2003.10.16 18:24:00 -
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lynxlynx,
SOE has done that very thing a few times with EQ. Many things were terribly unbalanced or screwed up and upon releasing their quartly $39.95 expansion packs alot of issues got fixed only to create more.
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Zarwi
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Posted - 2003.10.16 18:32:00 -
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errr
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 18:58:00 -
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*SIGH* thats not the point. Im not comparing it to other MMPs, Im comparing it to its own Peak set early in the game!
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Ganja
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:01:00 -
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This is completely off topic, and I apologize, but Singular.
I deleted your corp from the waiting line @ EVE-DB because you did not list any production locations, and sales contacts, not even half the information that is needed for applying.
If you don't feel like filling in an HQ, use your primarily most used production location instead.
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Doppleganger on 16/10/2003 19:08:04
Expansion pack.... personally I doubt it. My guess would be that the majority of ppl in CCP maybe working on another completely seperate mmorpg just leaving a small crew to work on updates and maintance of EVE.
but I know little about CCP so this is just speculation...
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:08:00 -
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Ganja, I would never disclose our main production site.....I dont see why most people would.
I may disclose a distriubtion site, but even that is a stretch hehe. Guess no Eve-DB for us.
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Ganja
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:09:00 -
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Ganja, I would never disclose our main production site.....I dont see why most people would.
I may disclose a distriubtion site, but even that is a stretch hehe. Guess no Eve-DB for us.
Singular, not so much a production site, but where people can pickup the items.. read between the lines =p
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:12:00 -
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Ganja, you guys need an Ore Calculator =)
The one at Eve-I.com sucks, I dont like the fact that you need to go by cargo size. Why not just give a breakdown by amount of ore.
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Ganja
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:14:00 -
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First things first buddeh!
Promise, we have a long list of things we are going to be adding.. just don't have enough programmers to go around..
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Tease
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:16:00 -
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Ganja, I would never disclose our main production site.....I dont see why most people would.
yeah, anyone telling a know griefer the location of thier main production/pickup site is just asking for trouble. I can just picture all the "pirates" that would be sitting in the jump-in points in these systems after watching trades get setup on that site.
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[2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's
less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level?
[2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning
lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you
[2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players
are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on
the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |
Thanatar Thed
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Posted - 2003.10.16 19:56:00 -
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I'de like to think they're working on an expansion pack but I don't see it being viable until CCP have a new publisher / distributor.
My one hope is that when the inevitable expansion pack comes it it doesn't just contain the features we were promised when the game went gold.
As for a new MMORPG if CCP learn from the mistakes with Eve then it could be the best one yet. The creative team is fantastic and I'de like to see them work on something based on avatars with legs! I miss the face to face interaction of other MMORPGs.
I have this idea of an MMORPG based on robots. Giz a job CCP! I'm a fantastic ideas man
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:13:00 -
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Taken from Homelans Q&A with CCP
HomeLAN - Are there any plans for a full fledged commercial add-on for EVE Online?
Sigurur Ėlafsson - Currently we are focusing on gradual introduction of content and feature through patches. There have been discussions about a major expansion pack but we will focus on updates through patching for the next months. Our system allows for substantial upgrades of the game with out making the patches too big
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:24:00 -
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ahmm, he could be lieing...kinda like that "Eve was a limited release" thing...total bull****.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:25:00 -
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a expansion pack is out of the question I think...
if they cant fix the first game...who is gonna buy a expansion pack??
its a work in progress... its called fixing the first game while getting a stable code... and that == ability to create a lot of new content without having the bugs to worry about because once you get the game stable they can just keep working on new content...
so what they are doing is working in parallel thus the power is hmm some what cut out, on the work done to the current game as far as content... notice that bugs are always fixed... so the team doing this is 100% working on current game.... the content and whatever you want department is probably split up those who work on the ideas that should be in this game... while another group works on future concepts and features... i bet they still have some teams in all area's working for a Xpack... reason being you cant just work on content you have to change the game engine at times to fit the content as well.
I think he has a good theory here... I didnt think about it until he pointed out a few key points...
THE PROBLEM IS>>>> I DO NOT FEEL LIKE PAYING another $50 or so when we really didnt get what we should have in this area....
so IMO CCP still has to get as much as they can in this current state before doing anything...
I am more then sure they will try and fix and keep up advertising until the Xpack is ready to be public knowledge
BTW some companies make it public knowledge from start BUT in a MMO you cant DO THATą all these current paying customers are going to BE VERY MAD that the content isnĘt going 100% toward the current state.
It isnĘt anything newą and im happy they are doing somethingą so long as something is being done then its great, or else if they donĘt have any plans at all and not working on the current stateą that would only lead to believe that the game is dead or in the processes of dieing and they are moving onto total new gameą.
ReasonĘs to rule out abandonment of the game, due to so much potential in the current stateą that they should be able to squeeze out a lot of XpackĘs out of this hole idea before having to come up with a hole diff game.
Of course this is a theory only and has no real facts whatĘs so everą its 100% speculation but it does hole some theories based on what we do know to be the current state, and based on the history of OTHER companies in the gaming industryą so itĘs a pretty good conspiracy theory
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Doppleganger on 16/10/2003 19:08:04
Expansion pack.... personally I doubt it. My guess would be that the majority of ppl in CCP maybe working on another completely seperate mmorpg just leaving a small crew to work on updates and maintance of EVE.
but I know little about CCP so this is just speculation...
read my above thread... it would take YEARS just to get a new game out... WHY?? WHY bother? they cant making any money... they got EVE so they can improve and do more sales with a fraction of cost of a new game. 
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:37:00 -
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nobody is saying that the Xpack if there is one... would be out as fast as others, the point and i hope that they did learn from there past is that they might be starting now, to get more then enough time to get everything in and to make a big hit with the reviewers and the current player base so that there numbers will grow and they can cover the lossĘs in the current release...
it makes 100% from the business point of view... and from the programmers view as well...
They know what they need to do and change to improve the game and take it to the next lvl... they could keep on patching it and making it great... BUT they would NOT get the $$$ and nobody would CARE but the current player base...
SO they have to plan and start on Xpack... as i said before if the potential that we all think EVE can have then ya if they try they can make it happen...
I just hope they give it MORE then enough time... AND keep this current state fixed UP and DONT release the XPack publicly, even the news UNTIL and ONLY WHEN this CURRENT STATE IS FIXED at least in the bug's department...
BECAUSE NOBODY in there right MIND would go and by XPACK if the current state doesnĘt fix the issues and bugs... its common sense
any way maybe i should have wrote this thread 
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