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Rakaar
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.30 01:59:15 -
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With the cost of plex these days, the outdated 2-plex to x-fer is a bit much. This could help keep plex inflation down a bit a well.
Everyone please bump if you agree. |

Emo Bittervet
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.30 02:30:12 -
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closed in 3...2...1... |

Myst3rious En1gma
Myst3rium Logistics and Investments
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:32:03 -
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Bump-I agree |

UnknownEnemyCombatant
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:32:23 -
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agree |

Deathmancer
EVE-RO Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:49:53 -
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Zbump |

The-Ron-Coyote
Acid Corporate Industrial Division
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:37:52 -
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agree |

Estelle Gullit
The Retribution Of Vengeance
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:48:16 -
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Agree |

Metrid Yotosala
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:50:53 -
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agree |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:53:32 -
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Agree
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Emo Bittervet
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:53:43 -
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the minimum it takes regardless of which option you choose is 1 plex so really your only paying another plex on top of the mandatory one(20usd). nothing wrong there, move along. |

Forsaken Saken
Livonian Bearslayers Prelium Ultima
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:06:37 -
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1) This is a wrong forum section for such a thing... 2) I totally disagree with this, as plex price tends to jump up with every new feature You can do with it. And believe me having one plex to transfer char would not stop inflation by any means it would just make plex more worth in some cases so price would go even higher. |

Valera Mal'doran
Lucky Holdings LTD
0
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:15:07 -
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Noone should have to pay 2 billion to xfer a character
Emo Bittervet: 1 plex is $19.95 usd, same as character xfer price.
This wasnt an issue when plex was cheap, but with the prices soaring and most likely going to continue to rise CCP should drop the price of xfer to 1 plex. |

BaByTemP
Opportunists Alike
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:33:45 -
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Valera Mal'doran wrote: Emo Bittervet: 1 plex is $19.95 usd, same as character xfer price.
yes but one involves the use of rl money, the other can be achieved without it. the idea is you either bite the bullet and spend the money on it, much like buying plex to sell, or you work for it without having to spend the money.
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Heavy Metall
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:55:53 -
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2 Plex is really much, 1 Plex is more then enough. ..but , if 2 Plex i want a more Service, like, Change Charname, delete Corp History.. Name because, u dont have any history with the Char before u buy it, its a new Gamer behind, a hole different Person, will be nice |

Trip Destan
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:01:59 -
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Emo Bittervet wrote:the minimum it takes regardless of which option you choose is 1 plex so really your only paying another plex on top of the mandatory one(20usd). nothing wrong there, move along. I think he work for CCP.... |

Suede
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.30 17:01:47 -
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total wrong forum section just time wasting taking up a sale post |

UnknownEnemyCombatant
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Posted - 2014.11.30 17:32:33 -
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it is too much period |

Abdullah al-Jabdahl
Exploration Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.11.30 21:07:31 -
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bump |

Vilde Birgitte
Worms Coalition The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.11.30 21:12:38 -
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Agree |

Ginger Heaven
ELVE Industries Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2014.11.30 21:32:13 -
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Agree |

Makhpella
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:05:48 -
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agree |

Nanei
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:06:55 -
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Agree |

Percival Rose
Project Kairos Dei-Telum
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:39:29 -
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+1......fully agree
Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.
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uka Kouvo
LE CENTRE OMEGA New Eden Legion
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:47:16 -
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Bump-I agree |

Leanette Aldard
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:54:35 -
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agree |

Bones McGregor
Knight Templar. Skeleton Crew.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:27:14 -
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Agree  |

Miss Moneypenny Vemane
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:35:32 -
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Agree |

u Ohu
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.02 16:25:09 -
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disagree.
20$/Gé¼ is the price and for less you can get 1 plex that is true. However! people that use plex dont pay for it with rl money so there is a difference.
I would like to pay less also ofcourse but there is no logical reason to make that change in my opinion |

Liebhabaer
The Wolf Pack INC
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Posted - 2014.12.02 16:27:56 -
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i agree,
might bring char prices down slightly aswel as they loose less transfering |

Kane Nogard
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.02 18:14:50 -
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i agree |

Distaa
Dain Bramage Inc.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 18:46:04 -
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The Panda people charge 25 bucks per transfer and only if you own both accounts..... |

Varitech
Special Hunting Engineers for Looting Puppies
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Posted - 2014.12.02 18:52:05 -
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Bump |

Yazad Antollare
Ninjas in training
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:28:34 -
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i agree,
a plex is 20 Gé¼/$ same as the character transfer fee so you should only pay 1 plex
unless the fee is on "sale" for real money |

Qc Abrutis
Guardians of Eden Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:34:24 -
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agree! |

Intonto
Duncan Tanners Honorary Corp
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:08:01 -
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agreed |

Sun Grey
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.02 22:33:46 -
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Agree |

Miles Hadah
Tillistrian Enterprises Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 22:35:27 -
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Agree.
And these days you can get 2 plexes for 23Gé¼ at some official seller (not going to mention it).
And that is way cheaper than paying 2 months by adding game time.
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Padme Naberie
Ocom Naval Industry Technologies
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Posted - 2014.12.03 06:37:31 -
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Agree |

solon101
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:14:23 -
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Agreed I don't have isboxer to make all that sweet sweet isk to pay for character transfers anymore :p |

Khendon Kalmire
POD Based Lifeforms The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:42:37 -
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agreed i think this thread will not change things :) |

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:44:56 -
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This thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:53:24 -
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Heavy Metall wrote:2 Plex is really much, 1 Plex is more then enough. ..but , if 2 Plex i want a more Service, like, Change Charname, delete Corp History.. Name because, u dont have any history with the Char before u buy it, its a new Gamer behind, a hole different Person, will be nice
CCP has already stated they don't want people to be able to change their names or clear corp history because they want there to be "consequences" for their actions.
The problem with this is that you can openly sell characters on the forums. If you are a corp thief or awoxer you will more than likely dump the toons that you used to commit the crimes on the market. So not only do you get away with the booty, but you pretty much get away scott free since you get rid of the character linking you to the crime.
imo it is ********, and CCP should allow name changes, and corp history clearing for a price.
On topic: 2 PLEX is way too much for a character transfer when it costs 20$ RL money. I used to use the PLEX method until I realized that I make 30$ an hour, and it takes wayyyyyy more time than less than an hour work to get isk for 2 PLEX. I understand why some people say "bite the bullet and use isk or RL money", but someone had to pay for the PLEX at one point which means they got their 20$ regardless. It is just a greedy tactic imo, but seems to be working for them so far. |

Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace Unsettled.
169
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:54:40 -
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+1
2 PLEX is too much.
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Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:56:38 -
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agreed
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:02:21 -
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Price has been the same for years and it's an issue now?
Pony up the 23Gé¼ for 2x PLEX (or $40) and be done with it. |

Yazad Antollare
Ninjas in training
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:48:58 -
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it's an issue now because plex is near 1 bil isk, it costs more to transfer a character than some are worth,
and not everyone can spend money in the game thats is why we have plex |

Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:43:37 -
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Kinda agree, allowing plex to go from 250m > 1b while maintaining the same Plex Cost for services seems a bit 
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:47:45 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Price has been the same for years and it's an issue now?
Pony up the 23Gé¼ for 2x PLEX (or $40) and be done with it.
It took a while for this to bite ccp on the ass didn't it?
Gets in grumpy old man character....
I remember when char transfer was a pay to use feature....only. As in on the account management site payment.
Also kind of funny is some wondered what would happen when ccp started on this plex for blah blah service path. The got their answer. This among other things started the plex speculation surge that wrecked plex prices. |

Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1384
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Posted - 2014.12.03 14:45:05 -
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u Ohu wrote:disagree.
20$/Gé¼ is the price and for less you can get 1 plex that is true. However! people that use plex dont pay for it with rl money so there is a difference.
I would like to pay less also ofcourse but there is no logical reason to make that change in my opinion
Why would I pay the x-fer cost with real money if I can buy a PLEX for cheaper and get the same service in the end? It cost more in PLEX because PLEX have more value than a directly paid service.
Next you people will cry that a PLEX should give you a month and a half of game time because they cost too much while subs stayed at the same price? |

Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1384
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Posted - 2014.12.03 14:48:11 -
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Ix Method wrote:Kinda agree, allowing plex to go from 250m > 1b while maintaining the same Plex Cost for services seems a bit 
The real value of a PLEX never changed in term of $ and that is the value CCP care about. How people charge to transfer it in game is irrelevant. The income for CCP is not calculated in ISK. They can't pay any employee in ISK and the save is true for all other running cost. If the cost for the transaction drop to 1 PLEX, people will just buy one PLEX with RL money to pay for it instead of the actual price.
Yazad Antollare wrote:it's an issue now because plex is near 1 bil isk, it costs more to transfer a character than some are worth,
and not everyone can spend money in the game thats is why we have plex
Nobody who can't spend money on the game NEED to have character transfered. None of them NEED multi character train. |

Talsha Talamar
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2014.12.03 15:25:35 -
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/Signed
If you pay in PLEX you pay up to twice the amount of real cash that is charged for the transfer. Also if I remember correctly, once upon a time, the price was 1 PLEX, but I could be wrong. |

Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.03 15:50:11 -
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Character transfer is a bonus to Eve. If you want to use it, you pay as specified. If you don't want to pay as specified you don't use it. Like most things in life. Jeez, you people whine. |

Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2014.12.03 16:30:40 -
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I disagree because of buddy invite rewards.
The last thing we need is a broken character market and CCP making abusable system.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Forged of Fire
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:39:29 -
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Not supported. The only value that matters is how much a PLEX costs in real money, not ISK.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
780
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:45:28 -
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Heavy Metall wrote: ..but , if 2 Plex i want a more Service, like, Change Charname, delete Corp History.. Name because, u dont have any history with the Char before u buy it, its a new Gamer behind, a hole different Person, will be nice
This has been beaten to death for years. Deletion of corp history and name is a bad idea due to griefing issues that would arise from someone selling their griefer pilot to themselves, wiping corp history and name, and then keeping all of the SP built into the character. Then they simply go back to griefing/corp-theft/awox/whatever without any backstory to warn prospective corps that they are a danger.
If you are concerned about buying a character on the market then do the research on what the previous owner(s) might have done with the character or to others with it. There are ample avenues to perform this research. Corp history being one. C&P forums. Killboards, etc.
You wouldn't expect buy a car and then "magically" erase all of the accidents or mechanical issues it's had simply because you're the new owner would you?
I'm right behind you
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Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:42:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Ix Method wrote:Kinda agree, allowing plex to go from 250m > 1b while maintaining the same Plex Cost for services seems a bit  The real value of a PLEX never changed in term of $ and that is the value CCP care about. How people charge to transfer it in game is irrelevant. If this was true, which it isn't, CCP would never have manipulated the plex price, which they have.
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2014.12.03 20:50:59 -
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You gotta love how many people have forgotten, or never learned, why PLEX exists in the first place.
The GTC market forum was created to give players a legitimate method of trading real money for isk, a method other than the isk sellers that used to permeate New Eden. I'm sure you've all seen the option at the bottom of the menu when you right click on a player that says "report isk seller." I could not tell you the last time I had to use this option, though I used to have to use it a few times every hour. GTCs could only be used for one thing at the time, that was to extend game time. The downside to the GTC market is that it was, and is, a tedious process that would occasionally take a while to get a code sold.
Along comes the PLEX. Now there's an in game item that can be traded on the market. This is convenient. Oh, now we can use it for other services like extra training queues, character transfers, even paying our way into Fanfest.
Underneath it all, PLEX is still nothing more than a convenience allowing you access to real world services for in game money. In the days of GTCs only, a 60 day GTC cost more than two months of subscription fees. Today, a PLEX costs more than a month of subscription fees. You are paying for convenience when using plex. Ask the guy behind the counter at your local convenience store, 75-100%, or more, markup over equivalent items in the supermarket or big box store is not unusual, but you pay it anyway because you don't want to go to the supermarket.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
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