The server should also restrict one IP address to one account only.

Ahm... I don't know what to say.

Right: Why should I not be allowed to use my accounts for a variety of things at the same time? Just because some people exploit multiple accounts for ISBoxer-coordinated fleets does not mean that the majority of players does. In fact, the vast majority of players does the exact opposite and uses their accounts in different areas of the game for completely unconnected and different activities.

I would also go so far in saying that if this became a thing, I will start using proxies to mimic several make the servers think they get my accounts form various IP addresses and thus circumvent your IP ban. There is no way in hell that I trust anyone with providing cynos for my JF unless it is absolutely necessary and can't be avoided by me. And an IP limitation is nothing that can't be avoided. There is absolutely nothing enjoyable connected to having to depend on some random person in an alliance and hope that they can get a cyno right when you have to move your multibillion ISK ship.

Your point about fair PVP (funny as it is and the first couple of responses already stated that someone messed up their job when there's a fair fight) is most amusing. Multiboxing in the ways of predator666 and thelikes, who use one char for the PVP, one char for the boosting and maybe another for scouting, is the only thing that makes their PVP possible and that kind of solo as fair as it can get in this game where nothing seems to count more than a kill mail and gudfites. And now you come along and want to kill that awe inspiring PVP off because some people exploit some tool or because you don't have the money or time to maintain a second account? Give me a break!

So when you have multiple people all with their own separate accounts on the other side of a proxy/NAT (say a hotel or university dorm), only one of them should be allowed to play at a time?

Or would you look at the IP that the computer says it has, rather than the IP that the server sees? In that case everyone using an internal 192.168.* or 10.* network is screwed.

Ignoring all the other arguments, your suggestion is technically infeasible due to the way the internet works.

Pointless and unworkable idea of the week.

Congrats.

Yes Pointless in your eyes, could be viable

It is viable in the same way brushing my teeth with dynamite is viable.

I promise you, after brushing my teeth with dynamite, I will have absolutely no plaque whatsoever.

lol thats trolling

to be honest, i somehow question the amount of 'real pilots' in eve space based on the fact that these guys who replied above all have 2-5 accounts, i think nobody knows the exact numbers except CCP, so 2/3? meh i dont know. if this idea really makes them bankrupt they can make subscription fee higher, real RPG fans will stay i believe.

How often do you have full of EVE pilots sitting together playing eve in 1 room? AND I SAID you can use other methods to achieve 1 person 1 account.

Is it? Let's compare.



I brush my teeth with dynamite: I die, I have no plaque left. On on hand I acheived my goal, which was removing plaque, on the other hand, I'm dead.

We restrict all players to one active character at a timer: Sub drop by 2/3 primarilly in low and null sec, eve sputters and dies, CCP lays off 2/3 of their workforce, game eventually goes bankrupt, EVE dies, but we achieve lack of multiple char PvP use.


In one case I achieve my goal and die in the process.

In the other case EVE achieves your goal and dies in the process.

Notice any familiarities?

ignoring that controlling many bodies at once is a part of eve lore. Even if all the real RPG players after CCP was able to raise the price high enough to counter act the drop in revenue. Eve will become at least as empty as SISI on a slow day the in game market would crash and most importantly the social aspect of eve would dwindle. this would cause even the RP players to get bored.

to be honest, i somehow question the amount of 'real pilots' in eve space based on the fact that these guys who replied above all have 2-5 accounts, i think nobody knows the exact numbers except CCP, so 2/3? meh i dont know. if this idea really makes them bankrupt they can make subscription fee higher, real RPG fans will stay i believe.

I run up to 80 online accounts simultaneously at some points. I have 147 at last count. I am already unsubbing 80.

First of all, its just an idea, I hope veterans can go easy with it.

I watched a video that a player was operating 8 alts at the same time, he was using 3 of his alts for intels, he alt-tabs between his main and alts to engage his targets at the right time near stargates, he even prepared his repairing alt in position and logged on to it to repair his main after the fight started.
From my point of view, multiboxing is equal to cheating in pvp, its like peeking others' papers during the exam for answers; glancing opponents' screens in CS; having open map in Dota, it is not fair for whoever gets involved.

Instead of letting players to operate infinite accounts where endless 'afks' sit around stargates, jumpbridges and stations, CCP should make one account with 12 character slots by default(I assume 12 roles are enough for one player), and using plexes to purchase additional slots. The server should also restrict one IP address to one account only. OR similar methods to eliminate to 1 account each person.

Benefits:
1. Providing fair competition in PVP for both sides.
2. Reinforcing the idea of MMORPG, making each role more important and challenging to play by adding more contents, playing styles and game features.
3. Force players to be more sociable, eg, have to ask for a proper tank or salvager for DEDs for extra safety and incomes.
4. Reduce unnecessary calculations at the server end which reduce lag and time dilation.
5. Reduce scammers/personal assualters because they will get their mains banned too.
6. (Not sure if this one is a benefit) Corps can stop worrying about spies, they can view all corps members' mains/alts through APIs, on the other hand a true spy can hide even deeper with all his characters.

how do you figure out the 2/3 revenue drop anyway? you hacked CCP's financial reports? Or you jsut making up a numbers because you want hold your 20 alts in space and keep exploiting multiboxing?

Fair PvP in Eve means someone screwed up. You might also want to search the forum to see all the arguments against your proposal.

how do you figure out the 2/3 revenue drop anyway? you hacked CCP's financial reports? Or you jsut making up a numbers because you want hold your 20 alts in space and keep exploiting multiboxing?

Benefits:
1. Providing fair competition in PVP for both sides.
2. Reinforcing the idea of MMORPG, making each role more important and challenging to play by adding more contents, playing styles and game features.
3. Force players to be more sociable, eg, have to ask for a proper tank or salvager for DEDs for extra safety and incomes.
4. Reduce unnecessary calculations at the server end which reduce lag and time dilation.
5. Reduce scammers/personal assualters because they will get their mains banned too.
6. (Not sure if this one is a benefit) Corps can stop worrying about spies, they can view all corps members' mains/alts through APIs, on the other hand a true spy can hide even deeper with all his characters.

It's ok I'll make up the lose, you can unsub the rest, ill carry on.

+1

The isboxer nerf will be pointless as long as multiboxing is allowed. Skilled players will just manually achieve what they used to do with isboxer. One player...one account at a time should be the motto.

But one game, no players will the actual motto.

Not even close. ISboxer, and similar, scale almost infinitely. Multi-boxing without broadcasting input scales at a much lower rate, and this lower ability to scale it means you end up with a distinct disadvantage in many cases where split second timing or timely actions are required.

I completely agree with you. I was responding to someone who was agreeing with the original post about each actual player could only have one character active.

How often do you have full of EVE pilots sitting together playing eve in 1 room? AND I SAID you can use other methods to achieve 1 person 1 account.

+1

The isboxer nerf will be pointless as long as multiboxing is allowed. Skilled players will just manually achieve what they used to do with isboxer. One player...one account at a time should be the motto.

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For the unskilled mutliboxers who needed the crutch of isboxer...well they may emo rage quit. Which will be a marked improvement to the game. Latter better than nothing because as many pointed out...ccp can't control it entirely anyway.

[quote=Zan Shiro]I feel sorry for those who will lack the tools I used to make the isk needed to make the amount of isk I can as easily as I can with unsupported multi-boxing.