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Andreask14
Sensus Numinis
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.04 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Andreask14 on 04/09/2006 20:04:04
It all depends on wether one of both of them have ECM.
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R'adeh
Celestial Fleet
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.04 20:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Laythun
Hell i'd even take a sac against a BC..
The Sac is the most underrated HAC. Setup correctly it can give Ishtars a hard time 
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Bluestealth
Minmatar
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.09.04 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: R'adeh
Originally by: Laythun
Hell i'd even take a sac against a BC..
The Sac is the most underrated HAC. Setup correctly it can give Ishtars a hard time
Its damage sucks but it makes up for it in tank(omg)... nos + ecm = death for sac though.
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Patch Esquire
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:44:00 -
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Command ships can spew out the damage to cruiser sized ships, so a HAC would have a real tough time of it. Thats not to discount a good HAC pilot though, theres not much in it.
Mind you, considering that a BC costs 20 odd million, and a HAC costs 200 million, I know which one I'd rather be flying in that encounter 
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:53:00 -
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dont forget for 7.3 million that BC is fully insured. so your only real loss is the fittings as the frame is insured.
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Bluestealth
Minmatar
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
dont forget for 7.3 million that BC is fully insured. so your only real loss is the fittings as the frame is insured.
Thus it takes a balsy HAC pilot, there are a lot of those. The tech1 vs tech2 cost argument is only valid because supply is far too low atm. I would rather have a 30-100 mil tech2 setup on a tech2 ship then a tech1 ship anyways. Insurance is nothing compared to the cost of some setups.
Fighting as if your ship is to be thrown away is like playing CS in space, and last game I played like that was Allegiance.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
When a HAC meets a BC ...
hhmm tbh hac gona die most of time if bc is well setuped with expierenced pilot
/me hugs his deimos
/me Warms up his brutix 
Soon to be astarte \ /
Like you need an Astarte for ganking mission runners.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
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Linavin
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:36:00 -
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A skilled BC pilot will stand a very good chance at killing an equally skilled HAC pilot. The reason most BCs don't stand a chance is because they're primarily flown by >4 month old players without the necessary skills and expirience to use them effectivley.
I have found that if you can fly HACs with tech II weapons and good setups then you can fly a comprable BC with a comprable setup.
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Foulis
Minmatar
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 03:28:00 -
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If I were just to look at the ships, without pilots, I would go for the BC.
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Boobies
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Shiraz Merlot
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.05 04:18:00 -
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The HAC pilot wins because he is having more fun out of the box.
<-- addicted to Tech II ships
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
When a HAC meets a BC ...
hhmm tbh hac gona die most of time if bc is well setuped with expierenced pilot
/me hugs his deimos
/me Warms up his brutix
Soon to be astarte \/
Like you need an Astarte for ganking mission runners.
Wait, you don't get style points when you gank people?!?!
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twit brent
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.05 07:14:00 -
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It depends entirely on how the BC and HACS are setup. A nossing brutix with dual webb and 3 nos will own any zealot or deimos.
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Tzesaeia
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Posted - 2006.09.05 07:50:00 -
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Just because a BC is cheaper and insured i wouldn't choose it! If u loose always against hacs and u have to replace the very expensive modules u fitted for fighting a T2 ship prolly faction stuff or T2 it will come expensive to loose also in a BC. But i would also say it depends on situation if it is a duel started from lets say 100km range i would go for the hacs that have range boni simply because they r faster and can keep out of range. U wanna know what ship to train for? Train for the one u like to fly don't care what u can beat with it u will find an enemy u can beat maybe in a BC that wont be Hacs and in the end if u have BC 5 u will see the command ship wink and they can kill some stuff...oh and by the way if u ever go for the command ship u will have to train for hacs and Bc so u can test out what u like more. For a beginner a Bc is the better choice i guess. So u could go for Bc5 first and when u have real good skills u could start out with Hacs.
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.05 11:19:00 -
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Offtopic but.. when I saw the title "When a HAC meets a BC..." the first thing that popped into my head was: "...that's how baby Command Ships are made!"
Seriously though, as everyone else here has said, its all in the fittings, the type of HAC, the type of BC. I'd give the HAC in general the best chances because they typically have more firepower and a tank comperable to most BCs.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.05 11:31:00 -
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BCs are pretty ebil in PvP, with an appropriate PvP setup. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the BC win.
CommandShips are frankly ebil too. They soak up a silly amount of damager before they go pop, and combined with a logistics cruiser they are practically unstoppable.
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 11:41:00 -
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One day, my faction-fittet deimos owned badly a brutix+ ecm-caracal (waiting for lock, tanking his very sad dmg and finaly omgwtfbbq them both ater having lock back (in space, noone hear u screaming )).
One day later I nearly lost it to a single caracal, becouse his neutralizer-drones BBQ¦ed my cap and he jammed me. I only was lucky, becouse he though, that i still had cap left and so he warped out (phew).
Proof for "it all dempends on setup+skills". (and sometimes ecm. CCP....nerf ecm plz!)
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