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LoganFire
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:19:00 -
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Do you hate kill mails and kill boards, do you love your killÆs mails and kill boards? I and a few of my Corp mates love our killboard, why because will love posting our kills. I will gladly take on a battleship or two; I will even take out pods in empire just to help other players get into a brand new pod. Almost every day I get convo from players that ask, ôwhy did you do that. So I will try and explain.
Sometimes if I am out numbered or out gunned I will go into a fight knowing that I will not receive any goodies from the can or by ransoming. That does not matter because once I have made my kill and are lining up to warp out I will blow the can knowing that the only reward I need to see is the one that is flashing in my eve mail box.
So for me there are four reasons why I love to kill,
1) The kill mails
2) The killboards
3) Trying to beat my fellow Corp mates on the kill boards.
4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
So there you go, these are my reason for wanting to kill other players, if they got rid of the kill mail system, then the game would be boring to me. So do you love or hate kill mails and kill boards, are you a carebear that really hates them or are you a killer who loves them, let me know so I know I am not the only evil/mad player in eve.
Can I quick just say to the entire players that went to the eve convention in London your all awesome:) especial the bar maids   lol.
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Hsallie
Gallente
The Otter Pop Foundation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:31:00 -
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What i would like to see, eventho i like my killboard.
Is a system implementet into eve, which will automaticly ahh a killmail to a global killboard. Perhaps not with all the details as the ones we have now. But just a was to see the total PvPing in eve aswell as a way to get rid of fake killmails. |
LoganFire
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Posted - 2006.09.04 12:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Hsallie
What i would like to see, eventho i like my killboard.
Is a system implementet into eve, which will automaticly ahh a killmail to a global killboard. Perhaps not with all the details as the ones we have now. But just a was to see the total PvPing in eve aswell as a way to get rid of fake killmails.
That would be awsome then ppl who lie about there kills mails could get kick from their corp
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Nanka
Pirate Party Patrol
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:49:00 -
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Every PvP FPS got a global kill board.
Would be nice to have that in EVE.
To many boards around, easier with just one.
I mean, there is an emplpyment history you can look up and such, why not
a kill board, or the wealthiets player in EVE board and such.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:55:00 -
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I THINK YOU NEED TO TURN OFF YOUR CAPSLOCK BUTTON WHEN WRITING THREAD TITLES
And yes, I love killmails 
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.04 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nanka
Every PvP FPS got a global kill board.
Would be nice to have that in EVE.
To many boards around, easier with just one.
I mean, there is an emplpyment history you can look up and such, why not
a kill board, or the wealthiets player in EVE board and such.
Uhm no, that's a pretty stupid idea as it takes away from information warfare and all the goodies that come with it.
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Caenan Fahda
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:35:00 -
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I think killboards are great, but not for the reasons the OP gave. An accurate, well maintained killboard is a great informational tool for pilots in a corp or alliance. Every killmail contains useful information about opponents, and having an easy way to sort and collate them can tell you even more about them: favored ships and loadouts, where they like to hang out, when they tend to be on, their friends and associates, etc. This is also why I think faking kills on a killboard or not posting your losses is ridiculous: it is not only lame, but it gives your allies potentially bad information. This mostly applies to private killboards, but unless you're actively trying to spread bad info through a public board, I still think keeping it accurate is better than not.
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:40:00 -
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I kill when it's not worth my time to ransom. Which usually, unless you have some very expensive ship (bs or hac) it's not worth my time to ransom =]
Because I said so...
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Wrayeth
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:08:00 -
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I kill for the thrill of the hunt, the opportunity to test myself against another player, and the loot.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.05 04:46:00 -
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killboards - The greatest intelligence source on your enemy ever. gotta love e-peen.
Originally by: Wrangler
Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.05 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nanka
Every PvP FPS got a global kill board.
Would be nice to have that in EVE.
To many boards around, easier with just one.
I mean, there is an emplpyment history you can look up and such, why not
a kill board, or the wealthiets player in EVE board and such.
EVE is not a FPS, and if I were one of the richest players (and liked keeping it a secret), and CCP suddenly posted that, I'd be ****ED.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
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Gustovness
Broken Cannon
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Posted - 2006.09.05 05:30:00 -
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I enjoy getting paid a ransom as much I'd enjoy getting a killmail. The killmails though, I'd have to admit, are much more satisfying, since those stick around FOREVER where as the ISKies I would get from a ransom could disappear over a weekend with exotic dancers and booze 
I'd like some kind of "killboard" that could implement ransomed targets, and how much they were ransomed for. Maybe if CCP ever implements that "formal ransoming system" that I'm hearing more about everyday on these forums, we'd be able to get ransom mails in our inboxes! In the mean time, us players could fill in the information requested on these ransoms that are included in the killboards.
Killmails ftw! 
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deathforge
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Posted - 2006.09.05 06:18:00 -
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I enjoy killing simply because I can. Killmails and the killboard are every bit as important to me as the kill itself, simply because it's my trophy... in addition to the frozen corpse I loot, of course
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:30:00 -
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4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
That quite contradicts your claim that you're not hurting people but just playing a game.
The reason people kill other people is because they're sadistic little bullies or plain psychopaths that IMO should be locked away. Too bad there's no such thing as prisons, penal colonies or mental insitutions in Eve and madmen and criminals are allowed to get away with every little stunt scott free.
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Quote:
4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
That quite contradicts your claim that you're not hurting people but just playing a game.
The reason people kill other people is because they're sadistic little bullies or plain psychopaths that IMO should be locked away. Too bad there's no such thing as prisons, penal colonies or mental insitutions in Eve and madmen and criminals are allowed to get away with every little stunt scott free.
no not at all, Most pirates and killers in EvE are gimps IRL scared to even stand up to mum when she cooks them something they dont like, Let alone commit a crime, these people are even scared to commit petty crime irl, dont kid yourself.
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Anxia
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bill Shankly
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Quote:
4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
That quite contradicts your claim that you're not hurting people but just playing a game.
The reason people kill other people is because they're sadistic little bullies or plain psychopaths that IMO should be locked away. Too bad there's no such thing as prisons, penal colonies or mental insitutions in Eve and madmen and criminals are allowed to get away with every little stunt scott free.
no not at all, Most pirates and killers in EvE are gimps IRL scared to even stand up to mum when she cooks them something they dont like, Let alone commit a crime, these people are even scared to commit petty crime irl, dont kid yourself.
Hmm, could be.
Or they could be perfectly normal individuals leading normal everyday lives, perhaps with a perfectly normal husband or wife and perhaps children, and these people play a game that has pvp as part of its world view and game mechanic. Sometimes even play the game with the previously mentioned husband or wife.
I supose it depends on who you ask.
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deathforge
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bill Shankly
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Quote:
4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
That quite contradicts your claim that you're not hurting people but just playing a game.
The reason people kill other people is because they're sadistic little bullies or plain psychopaths that IMO should be locked away. Too bad there's no such thing as prisons, penal colonies or mental insitutions in Eve and madmen and criminals are allowed to get away with every little stunt scott free.
no not at all, Most pirates and killers in EvE are gimps IRL scared to even stand up to mum when she cooks them something they dont like, Let alone commit a crime, these people are even scared to commit petty crime irl, dont kid yourself.
Hey, whatever helps you whiners feel better about getting ganked
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Gustovness
Broken Cannon
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: deathforge
Hey, whatever helps you whiners feel better about getting ganked
LMFAO!!
YARR!
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Niivvy
Caldari
Regeneration
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:42:00 -
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jesus christ people if anyone is gonna flame people for killing do it with youre main FFS. you call eve pvpers gimps cowards and rl wimps??? be a man not a coward, post with youre main.
Rant over 
Ilove all the killmains i have if i cant get loot or a ransom the killmail is the trophey u get and a bloody good one at the
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LoganFire
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.06 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: LoganFire on 06/09/2006 12:32:40
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Quote:
4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
That quite contradicts your claim that you're not hurting people but just playing a game.
The reason people kill other people is because they're sadistic little bullies or plain psychopaths that IMO should be locked away. Too bad there's no such thing as prisons, penal colonies or mental insitutions in Eve and madmen and criminals are allowed to get away with every little stunt scott free.
You must have been killed so many time to think ppl are like this in rl. I went to the eve party in London and was surprised to see pirates and pray having a laugh with each other and more importantly having a drink. I have ment some good ppl who play eve.
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Mikeh86
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mikeh86 on 07/09/2006 12:57:56
True Eve London was great fun.
Putting a face to the kills
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Brian Bookmark
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:15:00 -
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Killbaords are useless but good for the little spotty geek that wants to see his name on something.
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Masu'di
Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:19:00 -
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who needs a grubby peice of paper from concorde?
and a global killboard, not what we really want. a lot of people like to keep who they kill private.
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LoganFire
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Bookmark
Killbaords are useless but good for the little spotty geek that wants to see his name on something.
lol i would not call me little nor spotty, you have so much to learn of life yet so instead of doing one liners which only slag people off, why not give your thoughts on the pro and cons to kill maills and killboards or is that to hard for you.
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Idaeus
Gallente
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:53:00 -
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I've come to realize that many people can't handle losing, and lash out at the people that beat them by suggesting that they're bullies, compensating or in some other manner live an abnormal life.
But that's their insecurity talking, leading to their poor sportsmanship. Killmails and killboards serve as a reminder that they were beat and you'll notice that they lash out at them as much as they lash out at the person, or group of persons that beat them.
Of course, not all people who dislike killboards and killmails are lashing out, but you are able to distinguish their posts from those that have an inferiority complex.
If they would learn from their mistakes instead of allowing their ego to get trashed they might actually come away from such engagements, win or lose, having enjoyed themselves.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 07/09/2006 19:04:35
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
The reason people kill other people is because they're sadistic little bullies or plain psychopaths that IMO should be locked away. Too bad there's no such thing as prisons, penal colonies or mental insitutions in Eve and madmen and criminals are allowed to get away with every little stunt scott free.
Rofl, I usually don't care much about what the victims thinks, because I think he knows the rules as good as I do, so I enjoy fighting, blowing stuff up or just catching someone, who tried to escape and the nice loot. Killed somone = 'little success', depending on what it was and how many killed it, died = 'I lost this round.' But if I read what you write, sorry, it's really funny.
If I'm guilty of something, then only of feeling not too much compassion with a victim, because I see this as a game with winning and losing and take an EVE death not too seriously.
About killmails: They are a nice source of information for the alliance and a little trophy.
If I do some pvp, I also like to get some killmails, like many people, but killmails aren't a driving force for me to participate in pvp in the first place. I also don't enjoy camping very much. If I was just after killmails, I'd spend a lot more time with it.
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Gustovness
Broken Cannon
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Posted - 2006.09.07 23:29:00 -
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OMFG, you don't like camping? You must be wierder than those guys who shoot at rocks all day.
NO ONE likes camping!!! It's a lot like dating. It's just this thing that you gotta get through cause you want what's at the end of it.
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Kharthraal
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Posted - 2006.09.08 06:48:00 -
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1) The kill mails
2) The killboards
3) Trying to beat my fellow Corp mates on the kill boards.
4) Knowing that some person in this world is jumping up and down shouting at their monitor why did he do that.
Griefing has been made a form of art. Other peoples losses make pirate feel good about himself. Competing in killing easy targets like miners and haulers is an easy way to play eve. People considered as carebears pay the price of this killboard frenzy.
I spend a lot of time to achieve something. And some other player uses 2 minutes of his time to destroy what I may have used weeks to achieve. If I complain, it only makes the attacker happy. If I lose much isk and get p1ssed, he is even more happy.
It is just a game, Yes, but real time is used to play this game. Defend yourself? Revenge? Train better skills for fighting back? Hire ppl to defend and retaliate?
Buy isk with real money. The chinese have mined all the empire empty to make isk to sell for real money. Whether or not CCP likes it or not. this happens all the time.
Scamming, lies, betrayals, thieving, griefing. This all is allowed and considered as the essence of playing EVE.
I have played EVE for over 2 years, but I am too curious to quit. I want to see how far is it going to go with promoting all these fine aspects of human behaviour. Especially as now including real time used, also real money is used. This virtual world of crime, anarchy and joy over other peoples losses in real-life assets is not very far from sadism.
Maybe it would be easier for me to join the people trying to get killmails to file to killboards. I would log on occasionally for 15 minutes to kill easy targets. Buy isk from websites, buy ships and mods. Kill more easy targets. Mostly logging on only to put another skill in training. While some foolish people play hours of playing eve the industrial way, I would use my time in the Real Life.
But I am too much of a carebear. Please remove the industrial and all other non-combat parts of eve. They are only to have carebears addicted to eve.
I know 95% of people did not read the half of this. For the 5% of you: I am sorry for the whine, but I had to do it :)
p.s. considering low morale in-game, I think it is hilarious that I cant say P*I*S*S*E*D without it being censored. rofl
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Caleb Paine
Infinite Technologies
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Posted - 2006.09.08 10:05:00 -
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Why are people so obsessed with being podded or needing to publicly state they're the ubber PVP/pirate. All a lot of BS to me, people don't go on the battlefield forums "hahah I killed 50 people tonight, GOD i'm so good I R bettah than all of U!!!!"
Much less do people state that the ones that kill in battlefield are psychomaniacs (new word?) who beat litle babies IRL. So why do it here.
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Kaaln
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:04:00 -
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We all do it, it's just part of an ego boosting thing. There's nothing wrong with healthy competition between corp mates as long as it stays that way.
I guess the killboards are a way of proving your prowess in combat and how much better you are at PvP than your corp mates. Besides, it's fun to brag!
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