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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:46:51 -
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If you did not listen to both interviews on GRN Eve Radio then please do so before inserting your foot deeper into your mouth.
Fact - The defense fleet (regardless of whether it was organized or not) held the field. Everyone was invited back to get in on kill because the titan HAD to die. It was by happenstance that someone on the defense fleet got the final blow.
Fact - It was conceded by IWantISK that Nashh NEVER intended to give the 20 bil to the final blow since it happened to come from someone in the defense fleet. So for those crying about it, shut up.
Fact - It was further conceded by IWantISK that Nashh offered up the 20 bil to the top damage dealer instead. Nashh NEVER indicated that the ISK was awarded to the defense fleet member. The notion that it was IWantISK's idea to change the awarded party indicates you did not listen to the interview on the BC Show.
Fact - Bobmon ran with the half-baked story because he was in comms when Nashh was ambushed by seven members of IWantISK's staff / board. Despite the fact that there were NO accusations made of purposeful misconduct at the time, Bobmon took his tabloid title for the article to drive traffic to his site.
Fact - By IWantISK's own admission, they concluded that Nashh did not intend to corrupt the event. The reason they pulled sonsorship of #Eve_nt was because Nashh refused to bend over and apologize for the killing blow fiasco despite putting on a successful event otherwise.
You can disagree with how the remaining ISK was given to Chribba if you want to, but the fact remains that if I would have been treated the way Nashh (A WELL KNOWN AND TRUSTED CONTENT CREATOR TO THIS GAME) was treated by some elitist jerk sitting on a pile of space pixel money, Id've taken that 100bil ISK and converted it to PLEX in the cargo hold of the nearest Atron in Jita and let the chips fall where they may. Nobody deserves that kind of disrespect and you who are swallowing EN24's drivel are complete gullible tools. If you believe IWantISK are the victims here, then you clearly are what's wrong with this community.
There has not been ONE person that was directly involved with the organizing of the event, it's sponsor, nor Bobmon himself (who still has not printed a retraction of the title of the related article) that there was ANY intentional effort to undermine this event.
Now instead of trying to drive a content creator out of the game (because it's easier to **** on somebody rather than create the content for yourselves) how about you actually stop shitposting about it like it was YOUR isk. It wasn't. The top damage dealer got the ISK and this was acceptable to all parties (Including the defense fleet). Nashh offered up 20 bil of his OWN ISK in order to appease the situation.
Further attempts at trying to scandalize this event and drop a drama cyno because you want to rage about something only shows that you either DON'T have all the information or are choosing not to listen to facts. The event is done. Now go find something else important to rage about.
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The Eve Editorial - http://eveeditorial.wordpress.com
Twitter: @Protovarious
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:58:42 -
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Capt Sephiroth wrote:pft Prot you ruined everything... :(
*Hat tip
Just doing the job, sir.
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:17:09 -
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This whole situation just set 5 alarm bells off since I heard Nashh's voice struggle on Eve Radio. I saw the thread was still going and didn't put 2 and 2 together on ya, Seph.
Over-reaction? Maybe. But this was a lot more civil than my blogpost about the subject. Bobmon and IWantISK are primary and I'm going both barrels loaded.
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The Eve Editorial - http://eveeditorial.wordpress.com
Twitter: @Protovarious
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:21:18 -
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Corbin DalIas wrote:Protovarious wrote:Capt Sephiroth wrote:pft Prot you ruined everything... :( *Hat tip Just doing the job, sir. Hey I heard the stream as well and iwantisk was also mad at the fact that Nassh was completely surprised by why iwantisk being upset at how things happened. At first there was no request for an apology but the confusion in forums forced iwantisk to ask for this apology. The fact that Nassh was unable to understand why iwantisk was upset made iwantisk lose trust in Nassh's ability in giving out prizes. Do your research while also being unbiased.
Someone being ambushed and not understanding why is no justification for pulling the plug on a RL community event. Your supposed bridge between "Surprise" and "Trust" is a leap that not even Carl Lewis could make.
On this subject I'm as biased as you could get. Any indications that I am REMOTELY unbiased on anything should be taken as falsehood and tinfoil.
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The Eve Editorial - http://eveeditorial.wordpress.com
Twitter: @Protovarious
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:34:29 -
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English is your second language I take it. That's fine, this is an international game. So let me break it down for you:
I
AM
NOT
UNBIASED
...in anything I publish - be it blogs or podcasts. Ask anyone. Don't like it? Don't let the door hit ya where my boot kicked ya.
You're being awfully apologetic for IWantISK. It's amusing. Believe me, IWantISK has already lost accounts from this and when I'm done, they'll lose A LOT more.
By the way, has anyone taken a look at those community-friendly people over at http://www.eve-bet.com ? Those guys know customer service.
EVE-BET.COM - The OFFICIAL headlining sponsor of #Eve_nt!
(Get used to this folks, I'll be plugging them for awhile)
Co-host of The Neocom Podcast - http://www.TheNeocom.com
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The Eve Editorial - http://eveeditorial.wordpress.com
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:43:39 -
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Corbin DalIas wrote:Protovarious wrote:English is your second language I take it. That's fine, this is an international game. So let me break it down for you: I AM NOT UNBIASED ...in anything I publish - be it blogs or podcasts. Ask anyone. Don't like it? Don't let the door hit ya where my boot kicked ya. You're being awfully apologetic for IWantISK. It's amusing. Believe me, IWantISK has already lost accounts from this and when I'm done, they'll lose A LOT more. By the way, has anyone taken a look at those community-friendly people over at http://www.eve-bet.com ? Those guys know customer service. EVE-BET.COM - The OFFICIAL headlining sponsor of #Eve_nt! (Get used to this folks, I'll be plugging them for awhile) YOU ARE BIASED. not unbiased. I take it thinking is not your first language.
Will someone please translate what "not unbiased" means.
Not unbiased means I am biased.
You've proven your incompetence.
You're arguing with yourself, dude. Just stop. You're giving your website a worse name than it already has.
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 02:30:06 -
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AMGSiR wrote:What Lenny Kravtiz2 said is exactly why I got involved with this topic. I also don't really give a **** about how the event was handled, as both sides made mistakes. However, Nash, being a trusted (lol?) host for EVE means he does NOT get to make stupid, butthurt judgement calls like giving away sponsored ISK just because he was pissed off and didn't want to return it to the sponsor.
We get it. Nash was upset and felt cornered. But that doesn't change a damn thing. The ties were severed, the event was over, the drama would have died down -- then Nash blew the top off the entire thing by not returning the ISK he was given IN EXCESS OF THE TITAN'S COST back to the sponsor.
Nash screwed up, big time. I will make it my mission in this game to let everyone know about his theft unless he returns the ISK.
If by "butthurt" judgement calls you mean making a decision based on being harassed on comms, besmirched on EN24, and subsequently harassed via text to give money back that he had no written or verbal agreement to do so, then you put a price tag on your pride and decide how much it's worth.
Personally, I admire that the money went to Chribba instead of my alternative. IWantISK just learned a 100bil ISK lesson. Again, agree with it or not, that judgement wasn't ours to make. It became personal so as a result, a decision was made that both satisfied Nashh's need to wash his hands of it, and still put the ISK to good use without having to claim anything to IWantISK.
Show me an agreement that was made and I'll support your opinion about returning the ISK. Until then, it wasn't theft.
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Protovarious
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Posted - 2015.01.10 03:14:49 -
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Corbin DalIas wrote:Protovarious wrote:Corbin DalIas wrote:Protovarious wrote:English is your second language I take it. That's fine, this is an international game. So let me break it down for you: I AM NOT UNBIASED ...in anything I publish - be it blogs or podcasts. Ask anyone. Don't like it? Don't let the door hit ya where my boot kicked ya. You're being awfully apologetic for IWantISK. It's amusing. Believe me, IWantISK has already lost accounts from this and when I'm done, they'll lose A LOT more. By the way, has anyone taken a look at those community-friendly people over at http://www.eve-bet.com ? Those guys know customer service. EVE-BET.COM - The OFFICIAL headlining sponsor of #Eve_nt! (Get used to this folks, I'll be plugging them for awhile) YOU ARE BIASED. not unbiased. I take it thinking is not your first language. Will someone please translate what "not unbiased" means. Not unbiased means I am biased. You've proven your incompetence. You're arguing with yourself, dude. Just stop. You're giving your website a worse name than it already has. So you're biased. Learn to be unbiased before posting information.
I don't have to be unbiased you half-witted, tryhard shitstain. I run an opinion site. I respect Nashh Kadavr. I know the facts based on the swill you put out there. Don't presume to tell me how to present facts, Eep. You don't have to be unbiased to present facts when they're confirmed by all involved.
You never denied any of it. Just your tryhard argument of how "Trust" somehow equates to taking a s**t on the community and one of it's organizers. So come off the alt and defend your ego if it means that much to you. Facts are, you've lost the community's support on your "hollier than thou" crusade and will continue to receive backlash long after Eve Nottingham is done.
Oh, and has anyone taken a look at http://www.eve-bet.com ? Great people over there!
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