Please, don't use numbers to make your point. It's just a crappy excuse.

I think the only reason the titan died was iwantisk spoke up and told them it had to die.. or it wouldn't of died imo. This was said on twitch..

This was my first event of this nature. Besides being fair weather EVE player for many years I wanted to step up and try this type of challenge.

I had to figure out how to do this. being as RvB was advertising they had fleet for this I joined naturally. This process for me, was a total mess. After 2 hours of xing up, I still didn't have an invite. FC's (bless them) were having a difficult go at managing their surprised 500+ people trying to spam x's. It was a ******* mess. You could tell things were in total disarray, Fc's were baffled what to do with the numbers.. I think they though "maybe a fleet".. way too many people.. also hence the uncoordinated fleet even under good fc's.

2 1/2 hours later I still had no invite and fleets were full and not talking to each other. As someone that is noobish, I gave up and went on my own. I sat on coms to gain intel as where I'm supposed to be or where the titan would be. I would try to get a fleet invite another hour later will no avail. Did I mention how messy it was? Different coms, coms filling up.. people raging about no invites. it was a MESS.

I decided to go on my own, I got to the staging system @ 18:56 and started to get franctic and gather intel as to not miss the kill. They stated the event had started, but still didn't see titan for another 25 minutes around 19:30 on field. I think Spectre fleet came in nearly an hour late? Those 9 jumps, must of been brutal 9not really it was just a ******* mess).

I warp into the crowd in a frig and target the titan, it's maybe 95% shields. I start to get targeted and warped off. Rinse and repeat this 100 times. I get off coms as it just confusing, they switched coms 2-3 times to deal with numbers and even used dif coms for different spectre fleets (ouch). it was so terrible I decided to get my info from a small gang in system I met in the iwantisk channel. I took a few shots at the titan always being targeted as I landed.. now I a noobie ship I'm surprised, but I deal with it. It after all is titan.

So the titan is not even being touched 2 hours into the event.. iwanted to see who was fighting. I notice three big groups napocs, machs, and this huge logi/harpy/tech III fleet.. I was in awe. I start to target things to see what I happening and maybe get on a few "whored" mails. It was slow going with a few fleets warping off after 1-2 hours of slugging it out.

What I learn from intel though.. is that one of the big fleets and the most organized was the "defensive" fleet. I thought to myself.. that's cool someone decided to take the role of good guy and rep this titan. That was not the case, this defensive fleet I learned was actually the hosts. Well that makes it interesting I thought.

I liked the event even with the **** fest that went on, but how it ended was terrible.

The defense fleet killed the titan, the people hosting the event, are taking the kill for themselves. Intel starts to drown in as I watch the live twitch feed. The titan pilot is not unbias, it's the same fleets pilot. He is actually in the gang boosting them 100%. How are they reshipping without having to warp.. how did they get set up so well to defend the titan. Then it became clear with intel again.. They knew about or at least their fc's knew about the location and how to defend weeks ahead of time.

I think this would of been fine, it added a lot of good conent.it made me work to be on that kill, even if in the end it was with a noobship. I think it added flavor to the event.. but there was this greed behind it. It wasn't good enough they killed people left and right (those not allied with them), that they held the field. They decided to that they would kill the titan themselves and reap the rewards. I think the only reason the titan died was iwantisk spoke up and told them it had to die.. or it wouldn't of died imo. This was said on twitch..

To top it off, if it was just for GF's or lulz. The pilot himself before the kill refit the titan with civ mods. To them this was "going to be funny". That was not funny, no one besides them thought it was ..lol .It was a big screw you to those many of us that came and spent 6 hours. that is not the spirit of this event. The way the hosts behaved was not the spirit of this event, it just wasn't.

Why don't you hear more from people? On this forum or tied to their char in game. Well it's EVE, you would belittle them and berate them because they "just don't get EVE". What I currently see is the same members of SC, SO,DT that are swarming the thread with "it went great". You won't see many unhappy as you would tear them apart with your cool-eve-forum guy persona.

***TL/DR I had fun at this event and it gave me a real glimpse of what it would be like trying to ***** on titan mail in null. As it was more of a tactical job to get the hit on titan, but not let timer run out (tidi made this easier). In and out warps, and all that good stuff.

However I do understand some people position on the way it went and there seemed like a process and event not thought out. I would of given these eve_nt guys many rules of conduct before just letting them lose. I think they did what they thought they should do, had weeks to plan and they did just that. Were they told not too? Where they told what was expected?

I'm just going to disagree with you here. As a member of a corporation whose CEO is said Nashh Kadavr, the information we were provided before the event was 'the titan will die, no matter who has to kill it in the end'.

We weren't going to keep a titan to ourselves. We're one of the few remaining piracy corps, we do not need a titan to whoop other peoples' asses.

On to the main part of the post;

I want ISK, I, as a user of your site and services, request that your board publicly apologizes to Nashh Kadavr for slandering his name and for bailing-out of an agreement which helped you promote your name and your site/services in exchange for sponsorship money and/or ISK that was planned to be used for prizes/raffles for the event participants. The marketing you were essentially paying for was achieved, at any level given, but your sponsorship funds have not seen the event organizer in the fullest. Hopefully, I'm not the only one who requests this.

Sincerely, your user.

I'm just going to disagree with you here. As a member of a corporation whose CEO is said Nashh Kadavr, the information we were provided before the event was 'the titan will die, no matter who has to kill it in the end'.

We weren't going to keep a titan to ourselves. We're one of the few remaining piracy corps, we do not need a titan to whoop other peoples' asses.

Some Sperg

I know you acknowledge at the start of your post that this isn't your usual fare, but you got a few things wrong.

I'm also surprised your fleets weren't advertised? Would've made them a lot easier to join. Anyway.

We were nowhere near the largest group on field.
We didn't "take the kill for ourselves". We killed the Titan because nobody else did. All the other fleets retreated, so what were our options at that point? We started to attack the Titan, and invited people to come back to try to get the killing blow. Which is something that is pretty much random, there's no way to guarantee it. There were still ~1200-1400 people in local at this point.

We certainly didn't know about it weeks ahead. As far as I know, very few people reshipped without warping off. It's difficult to reship from a carrier with tidi that bad, and it's very risky to try it as often you'll be nowhere near the carrier and in an expensive pod.

I would like to hear a reasonable suggestion of what should have been done differently.

Does I want isk even play this game anymore or do they just collect pay checks from RMT'ing? There was some mentions of us showing up to the event with no guns equipped. It is pretty clear your expectations are unrealistic and slightly ********.

To add, a majority of the fleet had no clue where the titan was until the last minute. A select few knew. Also to add in 4hours sitting on grid shooting you tend to move cyno alts and scan down wormhole chains to reship those who lost their ships. The intel gathered from other groups was done through spying and scouting.

I don't "play" eve but I do a fair bit for the greater community etc with eve-radio and totaleve.com and IRL meet ups etc

Posted with wrong account? :O

Nope ... this is my main account, I do have a 150M+ SP toon who I use if I want to do stuff in eve but for me personally the game is more for to comment on and be a part of the community than it is to play, hence what I do and how I do it

The dude asked if Iwantisk plays and you responded with "I don't but"...

As if you were IWantISK...

I dont blame IWANTISK for not paying the defense fleet player that got the final blow. However, You could have gone down the list to the top damage guy who was not in the defense fleet and paid him. For not thinking of alternative solutions to make one very happy pilot in the game. Iwantisk, this is for you http://a1.img.mobypicture.com/811000ac3d7fa3d7c2b556ddd989b4b6_view.jpg , you have earned it.

In the early hours of this morning I was served with the ultimatum to apologize publicly or lose the I Want Isk sponsorship for #EVE_NT. I could but wonGÇÖt post the related chat log as I do not think it would be appropriate.

As I refuse to publicly (or privately) apologize for what was a successful in-game event all participation by I Want Isk has now officially been removed.

There is the matter of 100 billion isk that has been sent to me as part of the prize fund for #EVE_NT that has been requested back from I Want Isk. My conversation this morning ended with me explaining I will consider this, however I am in no position until later tonight (I am at work) to send this back. I Want Isk have therefore taken the stance that I have refused to send back this isk.

This is simply not true, but as they have already slandered my name regardless; now I do refuse to send back the isk. It doesnGÇÖt feel right to use this isk as prizes at #EVE_NT as it would still be related to I Want Isk and that just doesnGÇÖt seem appropriate. I will not be keeping this for myself; instead I have sent it to Chribba to hold on to until the next PLEX-for-good campaign and I will donate the full amount to charity.

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