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Nicholas Goldfinder PERPIDE Ineluctable. 10	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:41:00 - [1] - Quote It removes one of the most amazing features in the gaming history ever made. The possibility of a vet to become a noob toon by not updating their clone is a HUGE democratic feature in EVE, which is such an interesting game also, I would say almost predominantly, because you can lose everything!!! I hope many player will agree with this and make CCP revisit their idea to remove SPs losses. Yours truly.
Mag's the united 18257	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:42:58 - [2] - Quote I don't agree. Only one choice, is no choice at all. At least with the options now open, CCP can look at new ways for clones to interact with the game. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 7388	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:44:48 - [3] - Quote You are a tad tardy to this party OP. Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1383	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:46:27 - [4] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: It removes one of the most amazing features in the gaming history ever made. The possibility of a vet to become a noob toon by not updating their clone is a HUGE democratic feature in EVE, which is such an interesting game also, I would say almost predominantly, because you can lose everything!!! I hope many player will agree with this and make CCP revisit their idea to remove SPs losses. Yours truly. You do realise a vet would need tens if not hundreds of alpha clone loss to really get back to newbie SP levels?
Uppsy Daisy Perkone Caldari State 618	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:48:38 - [5] - Quote Quote: It removes one of the most amazing features in the gaming history ever made. The possibility of a vet to become a noob toon by not updating their clone is a HUGE democratic feature in EVE, which is such an interesting game also, I would say almost predominantly, because you can lose everything!!! I hope many player will agree with this and make CCP revisit their idea to remove SPs losses. Yours truly. Disagree. Name one player who 'chooses' to not pay the fee and risk loosing all the skill points. Nobody chooses this option, they just forget. Penalising people who forget is bad game design.
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 1627	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:52:15 - [6] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: You are a tad tardy That he is. Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5753	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:52:29 - [7] - Quote "democratic feature". Have we realized by now that democracy is a bad thing? The beatings will continue until morality improves. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2319	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:09:48 - [8] - Quote Clones were a terrible idea to begin with. They don't fit the game story-wise (why would the option to transform yourself into a potato even be available in a medically-advanced society?), and keeping players forcefully docked should be the obligation of other players, and not some half-assed gameplay mechanic. And why should people have to pay an extra 45 million ISK every time they want to take a small ship out for pvp? Seems to me like we should be taxing the mega-rich supercap pilots instead. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 1777	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:11:47 - [9] - Quote well, greyscale already cancelled thera, so I geuss your wish might come true.
Kamahl Daikun Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel 39	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:14:55 - [10] - Quote Mag's wrote: I don't agree. Only one choice, is no choice at all. At least with the options now open, CCP can look at new ways for clones to interact with the game. Having the SP to interact with the game is a good reason for you to interact with clones. Then again, here comes another 50 pages of 500m SP supervets losing clones all day.
Nicholas Goldfinder PERPIDE Ineluctable. 11	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:20:04 - [11] - Quote 1 - You can chose to have a cap on your SPs. Don't tell you cannot, because you can. 2 - To fly for cheap PVP you can always have an alt. 3 - I forgot...
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2300	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:20:58 - [12] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: It removes one of the most amazing features in the gaming history ever made. The possibility of a vet to become a noob toon by not updating their clone is a HUGE democratic feature in EVE, which is such an interesting game also, I would say almost predominantly, because you can lose everything!!! I hope many player will agree with this and make CCP revisit their idea to remove SPs losses. Yours truly. No, it removes a tedious and boring feature from a game rife with tedious and boring features. I don't want to have a second job I have to pay to work at. I want to log on, maybe run some missions if my sec is getting too low, fleet up with my mates, and hunt for PvP. Miners will like the game better now that they don't have to fear pod death. Older PvP'ers will come out more often now that they don't have to risk an extra 50mil on top of the cost of their ship, noobs will have a better chance of surviving the game mechanics to become high-SP monsters. Etc, etc..... so on and so forth. AKA: qwitcher. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Nicholas Goldfinder PERPIDE Ineluctable. 11	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:21:27 - [13] - Quote Oh yes... 3 - If you forget to pay your taxes, you are going to get fined...
Nicholas Goldfinder PERPIDE Ineluctable. 11	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:22:25 - [14] - Quote I think it is a bad idea to remove one of the best game mechanics ever thought in order to make the life of zillions SP toons easier.
Medalyn Isis Aliastra Gallente Federation 449	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:23:48 - [15] - Quote It shouldn't be removed without something else to fill its position. Right now medical facilities have no relevance, and pod death is meaningless for those who do not have pods. This isn't a correct state of affairs for a game such as eve to be in. Hope they can get this new system which they mentioned in place as quickly as possible.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 7388	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:24:28 - [16] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: I think it is a bad idea to remove one of the best game mechanics ever thought in order to make the life of zillions SP toons easier. Then go forth, Don Quixote! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=389008 Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2320	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:24:39 - [17] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: I think it is a bad idea to remove one of the best game mechanics ever thought in order to make the life of zillions SP toons easier. The people with the SP and money aren't even the ones suffering most from this feature. Yes, it's an annoyance, but we're not the ones who don't know enough (or any better) to keep track of clones, as opposed to the orphan street urchin rookies you seem to be campaigning for. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5548	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:24:48 - [18] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: It removes one of the most amazing features in the gaming history ever made Hyperbole much? It's not a feature, it's a penalty for forgetting to pay the "I got podded" tax. All other taxes in the game are auto-pay, why shouldn't this one be? I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2320	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:27:06 - [19] - Quote War Kitten wrote: Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: It removes one of the most amazing features in the gaming history ever made Hyperbole much? It's not a feature, it's a penalty for forgetting to pay the "I got podded" tax. All other taxes in the game are auto-pay, why shouldn't this one be? Because everyone needs a boogeyman, and their boogeymen are the people whose presence in the game is responsible for its current existence. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Nicholas Goldfinder PERPIDE Ineluctable. 11	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:32:01 - [20] - Quote A penalty is a feature. Then, the rookies. As a rookie I lost SPs. It was just part of the process to learn that EVE is a tough environment. One the no loss upon no upgrade will trivialise. Will u feel the same thrill, when u PVP, if you could not lose your ship? SPs loss is a different mechanic, but still a loss. A loss that sucks. A loss you don't want, and there is one thing you can do it to not prevent it, that is to not update your clone. Wanna make SPs loss different? Implement new game mechanics, do not remove the SPs loss. That is terribad!!! A trivialisation of an awesome game, one that, can be said without hyperboles, to be among the very best in the whole game history.
Cown Amarrian Parasylum 7	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:46:09 - [21] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: A penalty is a feature. Then, the rookies. As a rookie I lost SPs. It was just part of the process to learn that EVE is a tough environment. One the no loss upon no upgrade will trivialise. Will u feel the same thrill, when u PVP, if you could not lose your ship? SPs loss is a different mechanic, but still a loss. A loss that sucks. A loss you don't want, and there is one thing you can do it to not prevent it, that is to not update your clone. Wanna make SPs loss different? Implement new game mechanics, do not remove the SPs loss. That is terribad!!! A trivialisation of an awesome game, one that, can be said without hyperboles, to be among the very best in the whole game history. Bad Troll is just.. bad
Vol Arm'OOO Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 334	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:17:40 - [22] - Quote The clone change is a nerf to the death penalty and a removal of an isk sink. Both are bad. I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2300	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:20:55 - [23] - Quote Nicholas Goldfinder wrote: I think it is a bad idea to remove one of the best game mechanics ever thought in order to make the life of zillions SP toons easier. So, what you're actually saying is that I'm posting in a stealth "nerf high-SP characters" thread..... got it. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2321	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:21:22 - [24] - Quote Vol Arm'OOO wrote: The clone change is a nerf to the death penalty and a removal of an isk sink. Both are bad. Okay Mr. Armchair Economist, now I'm going to put you on the spot, and ask why exactly the removal of an ISK sink is a bad thing. Let's see what kind of uninformed, populist nonsense you're going to parrot out. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2300	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:23:15 - [25] - Quote Also, "because I had to put up with it" is a crappy excuse to keep a pointless feature. Why don't we just completely remove capitals, warp-t0-0, jump clones, and T2, and re-insert the learning skills and uninformative tutorials, because those of us who were around in 2003 had to do it? That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Moneta Curran Lunar Industries Ltd 303	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:28:52 - [26] - Quote He just jelly that now he'll never catch up. These are tears.
Karl Hobb Imperial Margarine 2120	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:30:07 - [27] - Quote Do we really need two ** threads about a ** "feature"? A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1427	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:31:53 - [28] - Quote I am not quite sure yet how this will change pvp-behaviour in New Eden. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp Vae. Victis. 6059	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:34:51 - [29] - Quote If they were going to leave it at simply removing the penalty I might tentatively agree with you. However in other threads you have chosen to ignore, the possibilities that open up for new clone and death mechanics are amazing... most of which will work far more sensibly if the pointless "Death Tax" goes away. View the latest EVE Online developments and War Thunder game play by visiting Ranger 1 Presents.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp Vae. Victis. 6059	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:35:52 - [30] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: I am not quite sure yet how this will change pvp-behaviour in New Eden. You're going to see a fairly sharp increase in small to mid-sized ship combat. View the latest EVE Online developments and War Thunder game play by visiting Ranger 1 Presents.

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